Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly | (Discussion Thread) *Stream*

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The various nods and homages to blackness got me :wow:


Sun beamin' on his beady beads exhausted
Tossin' footballs with his ashy black ankles
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ModernFonzie said:
YALL nikkas swear yall bout this being black shyt, then a nikka drops a universally acclaimed. PRO BLACK AS fukk ALBUM. And not in the Lupe way where he's on some peaceful shyt. Kendrick, is on some fukk AMERICA shyt. While incorporating historically black sounds and genres into a modern form. And yall nikkas have the nerve to criticize it :laff:

Critically acclaimed? Check.
Lyrically amazing? Check
Great songwriting? Check.
Pro-Black? Check
Speaking for black youth in a generation where nikkas are being killed like dogs? Check.
Great production? Check
Amazing concept? Check.
Anti-Racism? Check.
BARS? Check.
Using historically black genres? Check.
Easter eggs everywhere? Check
Multitude of flows? Check.

I mean what more could you want from a project? I don't understand how any black man could sit with a straight face and not love this album. It ain't like "cac publications" ARE looking for positive black music :laff: if anything they would pan a black rage against the machine type of album. Unless of course the project In itself was undeniably amazing. Which it is. I just don't understand. This just makes me believe more and more that most of the Coli isn't black. I expect people elsewhere to hate. But most of the disdain for this project that I've seen has come from a "predominately black" site. Or at the very least predominately POC.

How everyone here isn't happy that we have an artist that stayed true to himself, and true to his people, while delivering a masterpiece that is so undeniable that even "cac publications"'who normally pan powerful black music in this era see it as a beautiful masterpiece, is beyond fukking me. You guys should be ashamed.

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ModernFonzie said:
YALL nikkas swear yall bout this being black shyt, then a nikka drops a universally acclaimed. PRO BLACK AS fukk ALBUM. And not in the Lupe way where he's on some peaceful shyt. Kendrick, is on some fukk AMERICA shyt. While incorporating historically black sounds and genres into a modern form. And yall nikkas have the nerve to criticize it :laff:
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My man this is where you lose objectivity :pachaha:

I'm black and love this album, doesn't mean it's exempt from criticism.

Now the nikkas who are HATING on the album, yeah they can :camby:

And y'all gotta take this Lupe vs Kendrick shyt elsewhere. There's a thread already made for that
 
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Nice Glasper interview talking about his involvement, bilal's involvement, mortal man...

How the Grammy-winning musician ended up onTo Pimp A Butterfly:

I’m really close with one of the main producers, Terrace Martin. Originally he had me come in to play on the second track. I went there and played on that song, and Kendrick was there. I had met him a few times, but this was the first time he had seen me play the piano live. So he was like, ‘Aw man’ and pulled up this other track. It was like, ‘What do you hear on that song? Could you play something on that song?’

So he put up like nine different songs, and I played piano on all the songs. They only kept five or six. Actually I’m on like seven songs but I was only credited for like five songs. I actually recorded on nine songs but I guess they just kept a few of them.

On what Glasper contributed to the album:

Keyboard playing was pretty much what I did. The actual compositions themselves were already written. A lot of the producers are fans of mine so you can kind of hear some influence in that way. But other than that, all the songs were already written. I just came in and put keys on top of things.

How quickly “Mortal Man” was recorded, and how the album dropped a month later:

The very last piece I was there for the beginning of. The piece where [Kendrick] interviewed Tupac. So I was there when Terrace was kind of putting it together and writing that. It was crazy because none of us heard the actual interview yet. He made these pieces, and it was like a suite. It actually has more sections than you hear on the record. They took some sections, they were kind of seeing what works under the voices.

I actually flew out, did that the week before the Grammys. So I flew out early to do that, cause that was kind of a last minute thing. Then a few weeks later it was like, ‘We’re putting the album out!’ I was like whoa! That’s really fast.

Another artist who ended up doing more than one song?

Bilal told me a similar story. Bilal is all over the album too, and I think what happened is they called him in to do one song. And Kendrick was like ‘Oh shyt, can you give me some on this one? Some on that one?’ *laughs*

The similarities between Kendrick and Robert’s recording process:

He’s very spontaneous. Kendrick is very in the moment, and I’m the exact same way. I make most of my shyt up when I’m in the studio, with the things that are around, you know what I mean?

So that’s kind of how Kendrick was rolling. Kind of just like shyt happens on the spot. Take that, and put that, and make it into this. And then you have an incredible album.

Where the album gets its jazz flavor from:

Terrace produced a few songs on good kid, m.A.A.d city. I first met Terrace in jazz camp in high school, he’s a saxophone player. I knew him from the jazz world. He brought in the jazz flavor to Kendrick’s sound. That’s why you hear a saxophone on damn near every song. Kendrick was like ‘Yo let’s put the saxophone there.’ So he really brought that jazz flavor. Terrace also broughtLalah Hathaway in as well, which was another really cool addition.

On people trying to figure out what Kendrick’s new album sounds like:

Don’t worry about what you call it! One song may be more hip-hop than the other song. Like people kill me with that. Because why are you stressing yourself on what to call it? Just love it, and maybe there will be another definition down the line. When hip-hop was first born, everybody didn’t really know what to call it. They were just like ‘woo we love this sound. What is this sound?’ Just enjoy it! Then figure out if it even needs a label. It may be something that hasn’t had a label yet. But people are so quick to want to put something in a box. Because it’s almost like if they can’t understand it or can’t define it, they can’t enjoy it for some reason
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NoHalfWay said:
My man this is where you lose objectivity :pachaha:

I'm black and love this album, doesn't mean it's exempt from criticism.
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There is no valid criticism to a stan. That's why I don't call myself one. That's one Coli term ya'll can keep
 
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Piff Perkins said:
The various nods and homages to blackness got me :wow:


Sun beamin' on his beady beads exhausted
Tossin' footballs with his ashy black ankles
:wow:
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fukking cried during this song man, "He looked at me and said, "Kendrick you do know my language
You just forgot because of what public schools had painted" "I can attempt to enlighten you without frightenin' you
If you resist, I'll back off quick, go catch a flight or two
But if you pick destiny over rest in peace
Than be an advocate, tell your homies especially
To come back home" Kendrick is the fukking GOAT
 
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NoHalfWay said:
My man this is where you lose objectivity :pachaha:

I'm black and love this album, doesn't mean it's exempt from criticism.

Now the nikkas who are HATING on the album, yeah they can :camby:

And y'all gotta take this Lupe vs Kendrick shyt elsewhere. There's a thread already made for that
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No, I'm no saying its exempt from criticism. I'm saying the margin for actual criticism is so small for this album why even do it. It's a near perfect album.
 
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Ziggiy said:
How Much A Dollar Cost is A PERFECT song. It WILL go down in Hip Hop History along with I Gave You Power, I Got A Story To Tell, and I Use To Love H.E.R as amongst the greatest storytelling tracks. There is not literally One flaw in that Goddamn song...
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"I smell grandpa's old medicine Reekin' from your skin, moonshine and gin." :wow:
 
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