Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly | (Discussion Thread) *Stream*

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If this album is widely considered a classic then I've outgrown hip hop. I'll concede that I'm just out of touch with today's music and it's fans
 

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The album is average.

A lot of these posters in here are praising it like it's the second coming. But Tetsuo & Youth as well as 2014 Forest Hills Drive are better.

To be honest, it's kinda boring. I guess you could say it's sonically consistent, but that's not really a good thing. Nothing really stood out to me as inspiring or innovative. His attempts to be conscious seemed hollow. It's a letdown, especially after GKMC.

There are some highlights, some moments of depth, but nothing that would elevate it to classic status.

If anyone besides Kendrick had released this album, it would not get a quarter of the praise it's received.

On top of that, I think it's somewhat socially irresponsible. Kendrick is using his platform to recite meaningless platitudes and promote concepts like "respectability politics". To see that receive such acclaim in the mainstream, or for it to be promoted as the salvation of hip-hop, is disheartening.

I'm not saying the album is trash. It's just disappointing. :yeshrug:
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b4.da.$$ is a more enjoyable listen than this :manny:

what song on tpab is coming close to this really? :comeon:

 

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What song other than King Kunta would say you is a weak first half song?

I agree second half is way better, but institutionalized, these walls, and "u" are all fantastic records. For Free? Is dope too.
I think Wesley's Theory is a weak way to start an album imo...I think for For Free is growing on me but it's too strange sounding to be track 2...way too early for a track like that...King Kunta is kinda weak...Institutionalized and These Walls are pretty good...I can't stand "U"..I can't take his voice on that shyt...from Alright and on I pretty much fukk with everything heavy tho...I think Alright is where shyt really picks up...
 

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I think Wesley's Theory is a weak way to start an album imo...I think for For Free is growing on me but it's too strange sounding to be track 2...way too early for a track like that...King Kunta is kinda weak...Institutionalized and These Walls are pretty good...I can't stand "U"..I can't take his voice on that shyt...from Alright and on I pretty much fukk with everything heavy tho...I think Alright is where shyt really picks up...
I totally agree with you on the first 2 tracks. However, I mess with King Kunta... I just think it's a smooth catchy song. :manny:

But back to the first 2 songs, I like the concept for Wesley's Theory, but I'm not feeling the sound of it to kick off the album. Then to follow that up directly with a 4 minute skit? I can tell that I won't be listening to that "This dikk ain't freeeeeee" shyt too much, after a few times, I really don't need to hear it.

And I haven't heard anybody complain about how pretentious and preachy he is on this album. The way he connects the concept of this album heavily relies on the skits, and him straight up spoon feeding the listener with those. It's almost like he was saying, "Ok, do you get it?... let me make sure they get it" with how he presented his message. I knew he was talking about taxes and 'Uncle Sam' in the first song (surprisingly, somebody mentioned that they didn't catch how the first 2 tracks are linked)... I didn't need ol girl hammering it home again in the skit "I'm gonna get my Uncle Sam to fukk you up"...Kind of felt like he didn't feel like he could fully connect all of his ideas without the skits/speeches reaffirming his message.

He does the same thing after Alright with the skit For Sale about "Lucy/Lucifer" and selling his soul. Kendrick clearly didn't have enough confidence in the listener to decode this without the skits.

And I agree with U, the 2nd part he over did it with the crying rap.
 
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