Kendrick Lamar is amazing but Lupe Fiasco's concepts,metaphors,swag would trample him - Mickey Factz

[bl2k8]

I used to be the biggest Lupe Fiasco fan. Seeing what he's become genuinely hurts my heartLupe was loved back then for the same reason Kendrick is loved now: there was soul and emotion flowing through his music. He Say She Say is literally the same verse twice but from different perspectives. Not the most lyrically dense track, no need to dig deeper than surface level, but real and relatable as hell. Yet Lupe could make a Theme Song to a Driveby and drop world class bars, triple entendres, while still making sure the music took prominence. After The Cool, all this nikka cared about was being lyrical for the sake of being lyrical. The lyrics stopped being a conduit for transcendent music and became an avenue for dude to show just how complex he could rhyme words together. I used to love deciphering Lu tracks because the songs were genuinely enjoyable to listen to in the first place. Now it's a just a case of deciphering it to show you got what the nikka was saying. I listened to Switch and Failure because they're dope songs and catching different similes, extended metaphors, and technical experimentation was icing on the cake. Now I'm playing dude's albums backwards under the light of a full moon because there's a hidden bar that only fans of Yu Yu Hakusho(subbed not dubbed) will get the reference to. I think I remember this guy hyping one of his upcoming songs by claiming how simple it would make one of his previous lyrical for the sake of being lyrical songs sound as opposed for how good the song was in general. You add to all of this his change in delivery, increasingly worsening ear for production, and altogether soulless music and it's crazy to think the guy you were listening to on the mixtapes thru The Cool is the same guy you're listening to after it.

Nothing but truth. Kendrick is what Lupe was supposed to be, Lupe got too caught up and trying to be complex. His best CD is the one where he story tells the most ironically

 

[Waterproof]

Lupe with his complex rhymes can't fukk with A Poet like Pac reaching brother's

Now can your mind picture, a thug nikka drinkin' hard liquor
This ghetto life has got me catchin' up to God quicker
Who would figure that all I need was a hair trigger
Semi-automatic MAC-11 just to scare nikkas
Pardon my thug poetry, but suckers is born everyday
And fear of man grow on trees

Now who's the better Emcee, Who reach the people, Lupe don't have one verse that's powerful as this.

 

[Guvnor]

Lupe vs Kendrick will be a good battle. Skills wise I'm going Lupe but I feel Kendrick has the Wit to compete with Lupe and he does do Punchlines too. Anyone can listen to his 6 foot 7 foot freestyle with schoolboy Q and hear that. Kendrick came in the game copying Lil Wayne lol.

 

[seymour cake]

Somebody put me on to 5 or 6 official lupe songs..i never really got into his shyt.

 

[KravenMorehead™]

Too many childish arguments in these kind of threads.

You can't shyt on Lupe for Lasers, then in the same post use him being overly lyrical as a diss when the only reason Lasers is labelled a dud, is cause it was less lyrical


There's gotta be a distinction. Certain criticisms should be reserved for fans unless you just wanna be a clown.

Some points are "fan arguments" i.e. you gotta be someone who already thought dude was like that to even present that in the convo.


for example, "Lasers was weak" or "He fell off after the cool" means you're saying from mixtapes to albums up until lasers HE WAS THAT nikka.

you can't then turn around and say he was a trash rappity rappity lyrical nikka when that was the whole reason HE WAS THAT nikka in the first place


nikkas talkin out both sides of they mouth w/ this shyt Y'all grown man....

 

[Billy Ocean]

Lupe has songs like that in his catalog.

Not as iconic as Dear Mama, of course tho

He has nothing in his catalog that makes people feel like Dear Mama. Stop being uber-delusional stan #1.

 

[CookisaCac]

that twitter account with the dbs (hit) avatar is definitely a coli poster

 

[The G.O.D II]

nikka paints a lyrical mural and this is how its received

7 mins of fukking unlistenable bullshyt

 

[Majestic]

Kendrick has made better albums though and that's what matters.

 

[Cadillac]

Too many childish arguments in these kind of threads.

You can't shyt on Lupe for Lasers, then in the same post use him being overly lyrical as a diss when the only reason Lasers is labelled a dud, is cause it was less lyrical


There's gotta be a distinction. Certain criticisms should be reserved for fans unless you just wanna be a clown.

Some points are "fan arguments" i.e. you gotta be someone who already thought dude was like that to even present that in the convo.


for example, "Lasers was weak" or "He fell off after the cool" means you're saying from mixtapes to albums up until lasers HE WAS THAT nikka.

you can't then turn around and say he was a trash rappity rappity lyrical nikka when that was the whole reason HE WAS THAT nikka in the first place


nikkas talkin out both sides of they mouth w/ this shyt Y'all grown man....

My nikka don't waste ur time.

U talking to kdot stans and Lupe haters. U ain't gonna get anywhere

 

[NoHalfWay]

He has nothing in his catalog that makes people feel like Dear Mama. Stop being uber-delusional stan #1.

I’m pretty sure you threw Swimming Pools in that equation too.

Which shouldn’t be in the same sentence as Dear Mama either as far as “potent writing”

Cuz if you’re saying that Swimming Pools exceeds the capability of what Lupe has pen’d down from a writing standpoint while still being able clearly convey a message and evoke emotion, I’m just gonna stop replying to this thread.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Kendrick has made better albums though and that's what matters.

It’s all marketing...

 

[OHSNAP!]

Quality > quantity/popularity

Therefore: Lupe > Kenny

 

[Billy Ocean]

I’m pretty sure you threw Swimming Pools in that equation too.

Which shouldn’t be in the same sentence as Dear Mama either as far as “potent writing”

Cuz if you’re saying that Swimming Pools exceeds the capability of what Lupe has pen’d down from a writing standpoint while still being able clearly convey a message and evoke emotion, I’m just gonna stop replying to this thread.

Swimming Pools is not Dear Mama but damn sure qualifies as potent writing without the excess. I brought it up because Kendrick and Lupe are the MCs at hand.

And yea...please stop replying because you have shown to be an illogical Lupe Stanley. You don't have to be super complex to clearly convey a message and evoke emotion and Swimming Pools is a good example of this. Tracks like that, or Dear Mama, or Where Have You Been by Jay (Beans part) and Tragedy's Crying On The Inside are all Hip Hop tracks that show way more superior writing talent than anything I've heard from Lupe, at least recent Lupe.

"Yo, too many songs, weak rhymes that's mad long. Make it brief Son, half short and twice strong" - GZA

 

[OHSNAP!]

I shouldn't have to listen to your song 20 times to understand it fully, if somebody can't get it the first time you are not lyrical enough to convey your message

being complicated doesn't make you good, saying something complicated in a simple way is what is difficult

i remember some lupe stan came up to when that day dreaming song dropped talking about lupe rapping about the projects being a transformer
or some shyt, and I was like what, what are you talking about, what is he saying, at the end of the day he ain't saying shyt

keep exposing yaself, peabrain