Kendrick is the biggest plant we've ever seen (a big leafy summabytch)

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@SirBiatch We are anticipating his new release because that's just how things go. People want to see if he could do it again, it doesn't mean the people are genuinely wanting it.

Every artists, and especially rappers, gets 5 years to prove themselves once they get on. If Rocky could do it this time, he will last at least a few more years. If he bricks, its over, and that new song I heard is not helping him. He needs to go back to the old school way of promoting and put out a street single, then a more mainstream song. I think he was trying to do this with "multiply" but things went left. He needs to start the campaign over, put out some hard shyt for the fellas, then put out some female shyt with an edge, since that is his image(edgy). His second single should be something like this new shyt he has out now, so he can get more crossover but that is once you keep your core fans happy. Once they go, its hard to get them back. If he makes that song his official single, its over for him in the long run. The song is too mainstream. This is hip hop, once you reach too much, we let you go. I seen this from the 80's to now, wh don't these artists get it.

This is why Kendrick is here for a while, he didn't do the mainstream acceptance thing for his second major release, and its hard in terms of being hip hop to the core. That is the essence of what hip hop is, hard drums, and hard bass lines, with lovely flows. The mainstream shyt comes in secondary to this. Once it becomes the main thing, you are officially out of it. I know I sound negative but, that is how it is. Krs-one really was right when he made the song "outta here".

I think if more artists actually loved the music, and its history, we wouldn't even be debating about this. That's why its important for young artists to study old rap music, and artists, because it keeps the music fresh for real, and not just some promo hype which has been happening for too long.
 

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Thats not a plant. Thats putting your people on.

The dudes they were talking about were cats with no legit props/respect from the rap community that labels pushed out to make superstars by doing commercial trash.

Kendricks a plant, interscope paid for section 80 to be made, the marketing, the dr.dre cosign to make him legit in hip hops eyes he was literally "planted" and manufactured to be a "grassroots" movement. Told you guys three years ago.
You are confusing a signed artists who has a label using the era he is in to push the artists from someone getting on just for label to get a quick buck.

Back then it was different examples but, its still the same. That record I linked came out in the late 80's, early 90's, so of course they were using examples and terms that were different but the meaning is the same. Someone who gets put on by a friend or family member because they work at a label, and the artist is not really a "rapper". Sugar Hill gang are prime examples of industry plants. No one knew them inside the hip hop community. They got on because Syvlia Robinson wanted to make money from rap, and just put together some people she knew to make some music. This is what an industry plant is. Kendrick Lamar was known in the community for years before 2011. He is not an industry plant.
 

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You are confusing a signed artists who has a label using the era he is in to push the artists from someone getting on just for label to get a quick buck.

Back then it was different examples but, its still the same. That record I linked came out in the late 80's, early 90's, so of course they were using examples and terms that were different but the meaning is the same. Someone who gets put on by a friend or family member because they work at a label, and the artist is not really a "rapper". Sugar Hill gang are prime examples of industry plants. No one knew them inside the hip hop community. They got on because Syvlia Robinson wanted to make money from rap, and just put together some people she knew to make some music. This is what an industry plant is. Kendrick Lamar was known in the community for years before 2011. He is not an industry plant.

No i'm not confusing it. People put their people on. Thats always been that way. People look out for people they know. For every 5 artist that got signed back then 1 was someone who knew someone.

kendricks a plant. He went from weed carrier making throwaway songs to this "great mixtape" to king kendrick. Drake and J.Cole were at the top of the game with albums but they were supposed to be neck and neck with a dude a mixtape?

Interscope marketed MC Brains and told yall he was on Big and Nas level and you guys drunk the kool-aid
 

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No i'm not confusing it. People put their people on. Thats always been that way. People look out for people they know. For every 5 artist that got signed back then 1 was someone who knew someone.

kendricks a plant. He went from weed carrier making throwaway songs to this "great mixtape" to king kendrick. Drake and J.Cole were at the top of the game with albums but they were supposed to be neck and neck with a dude a mixtape?

Interscope marketed MC Brains and told yall he was on Big and Nas level and you guys drunk the kool-aid
Of course people get put on by people they know but,that isn't the same as being put on just to make money for a label. I gave the sugar hill gang as a perfect example, and you still keep giving these excuses that take the term out of context. Your hate for Kendrick is blinding you, so its no point in going on.
 

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Most labels want you to prove you can continue to do your thing for an extended time before putting album budget on you. Once you get the green light to begin an album, that is usually when the announcement is made. It's not "planting" lol. It's also why you have some artists who are signed but never end up putting a project out and are dropped.
 

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Of course people get put on by people they know but,that isn't the same as being put on just to make money for a label. I gave the sugar hill gang as a perfect example, and you still keep giving these excuses that take the term out of context. Your hate for Kendrick is blinding you, so its no point in going on.

A group of non respected rappers from around the rap element put together to make songs for money vs a guy who made no noise outside of his neighborhood,has a labelbacked "mixtape" who then was signed to an highly respected legendary producer who doesn't make or produce music anymore but is from the same neighborhood and business partners with the head of the label, then is given a top spot in hip hop

Your love for kendrick is blinding you, so its no point in going on.
 

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A group of non respected rappers from around the rap element put together to make songs for money vs a guy who made no noise outside of his neighborhood,has a labelbacked "mixtape" who then was signed to an highly respected legendary producer who doesn't make or produce music anymore but is from the same neighborhood and business partners with the head of the label, then is given a top spot in hip hop

Your love for kendrick is blinding you, so its no point in going on.
That's a lot of hyperbolic language breh


And I don't know where you got the idea dre doesnt do music anymore....or what that has to do with him co-signing new artists especially from his own neighborhood.

"I know youre good at basketball MJ, but since you don't hoop anymore I don't trust your opinion on upcoming talent."
 

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Most labels want you to prove you can continue to do your thing for an extended time before putting album budget on you. Once you get the green light to begin an album, that is usually when the announcement is made. It's not "planting" lol. It's also why you have some artists who are signed but never end up putting a project out and are dropped.
Exactly!

I guess people want to believe what they want,so its pointless to get them to see things for what they are.
 

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Peep the uploader's date: Feb 11 2011

This is before HiiPower and the release of Section 80. Dre (one of the most visible figures in hip hop history) shows up out of nowhere to cosign Kendrick, but Kendrick's not signed to Interscope nor being pushed secretly by them, right? :usure:



Then more torch-passing and hype shortly after Section80 release



then MTV says that Kendrick has signed to Interscope in March 2012, ending his run as an independent artist. :comeon:

King Koonta is the definition of manufactured hype. Show me a video with Jay-Z/Puffy etc coming out to support ASAP Rocky before Purple Swag and LiveLoveASAP. Then I'll shut the fukk up.

Otherwise, I don't wanna hear the words "Rocky a plant" coming out the mouths of a Kendrick stan ever.

In fact, Rocky/Yams are the definition of young cats who said "fukk an industry handout, we're gonna make undeniably unique shyt and create our own buzz. We'll let the music speak for itself." And instead of championing them, most of y'all hated.

Such is the way of the world.


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That's a lot of hyperbolic language breh


And I don't know where you got the idea dre doesnt do music anymore....or what that has to do with him co-signing new artists especially from his own neighborhood.

"I know youre good at basketball MJ, but since you don't hoop anymore I don't trust your opinion on upcoming talent."

Yeah cause kendrick was cooking nationwide before Interscope pushed Section 80 :stopitslime:

Yeah cause dre has put out a ton of shyt and signed a ton of artist since beats by dre popped off. :stopitslime:

When was the last time dre put out anything with without being all over it production wise? :stopitslime:

Jimmy Iovine asked Dre for a kendrick co-sign over brunch and a squash game in return for a executive producer credit.You nikkas stay in denial :mjlol:
 

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Most labels want you to prove you can continue to do your thing for an extended time before putting album budget on you. Once you get the green light to begin an album, that is usually when the announcement is made. It's not "planting" lol. It's also why you have some artists who are signed but never end up putting a project out and are dropped.

http://www.djbooth.net/index/news/entry/indie-rapper-secretly-signed-major-label <- Relevant to the discussion. And, I agree. Cause even if Kendrick is a plant... That doesn't necessarily guarantee he was bound to be successful. Do y'all know how many rappers are secretly signed to major labels, waiting for that one hit, and never blow up? :what: Fact of the matter is, the people love Kendrick. :yeshrug:That's still him behind the beats and that's still him behind the lyrics on his records. Besides, it's not like Interscope dropped money on the Clear Channel tables and made him become a success story overnight, unlike a certain other rapper that shall not be named.:francis:


And how many rappers are really getting signed off of pure hard work and grinding in these times? Cause a lot of folks are getting record deals just off a hit record or a co-sign now. :francis:
 

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Yeah cause kendrick was cooking nationwide before Interscope pushed Section 80 :stopitslime:

Yeah cause dre has put out a ton of shyt and signed a ton of artist since beats by dre popped off. :stopitslime:

When was the last time dre put out anything with without being all over it production wise? :stopitslime:

Jimmy Iovine asked Dre for a kendrick co-sign over brunch and a squash game in return for a executive producer credit.You nikkas stay in denial :mjlol:
You use the kind of thinking and language that conspiracy theorists use. I can't get on that level. Stop smoking out of tin foil before you use it as a hat.
 
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