"Keep sleeping on us" The Official Wizards vs. Pacers Round 2 Thread

Who takes the series?

  • Pacers in 4

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Pacers in 5

    Votes: 6 3.2%
  • Pacers in 6

    Votes: 19 10.0%
  • Pacers in 7

    Votes: 7 3.7%
  • Wizards in 4

    Votes: 12 6.3%
  • Wizards in 5

    Votes: 35 18.4%
  • Wizards in 6

    Votes: 87 45.8%
  • Wizards in 7

    Votes: 21 11.1%

  • Total voters
    190

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Yeah. He should have put in the AARP crew earlier in the 3rd, then let the starters back in the 4th and close out with the old guys late to make one last push against George's big night.

The spread lineup works for pushing the pace. Was impressed with Gooden's defense vs. West and Hibbert. He showed a lot of heart, more than I've seen from Gortat lately

That's where I noticed Washington was getting in trouble. When the smaller line up of shooters was out, there's more pressure on the Indy guards to contain them, and that's really indy's weakest area. When the game slowed down and it became a slug fest between the bigs, Indy had the advantage.
 

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That's where I noticed Washington was getting in trouble. When the smaller line up of shooters was out, there's more pressure on the Indy guards to contain them, and that's really indy's weakest area. When the game slowed down and it became a slug fest between the bigs, Indy had the advantage.

Yup. Gortat and Nene started out OK because they were running and West/Hibbert weren't going back on defense with Wall finding them but their intensity fell off a cliff

Wittman is coaching scared and conservatively since his contract is expiring.

I've heard Grunfeld doesn't really like Wittman from a source with ties to the organization and I wouldn't be surprised if George Karl is hired to be the coach since Grunfeld worked with him in Milwaukee. Also, we got all these former Denver Nuggets.
 

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Wittless said YMCA Dre was gassed postgame interview. And that it was Wall's time to close it out.
I call bullshyt on that breh. Dre is :old: but not :flabbynsick:. his geriatric ass still thinks he's a starting PG, he's not going to be gassed after 15 minutes.

Whittman knows if he kept Wall on the bench and they still lost, he would've been crucified.
 

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I call bullshyt on that breh. Dre is :old: but not :flabbynsick:. his geriatric ass still thinks he's a starting PG, he's not going to be gassed after 15 minutes.

Whittman knows if he kept Wall on the bench and they still lost, he would've been crucified.

he's coaching scared

but YMCA Dre wouldn't have lost that game and would have taken that 3...
 
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:pachaha: No you fukking weirdo, I don't give a shyt about Wall, I just like him as a player and I think he's good, what do you want me to say? I'm not a Wall stan, I'm just calling it like I see it. I saw a team missing a bunch of shots they were making all game around the 3rd quarter, and I saw another team start pounding it in the paint and playing great defense..

And I saw Wall miss shots that he hasn't been making all series long. Kind of strange how you've barely highlighted his poor play, which has been a common theme all throughout the playoffs and focused on what his team failed to do, when their role/failing to produce has had a sub-plot significance.


When the pace went to the halfcourt, Wall had trouble, ok, so what happened when the pace was fast? You were quiet as a church mouse and everyone in the thread is like ":ufdup: Where those people saying Wall is a bum" and those people magically saying he's better within the moment are just as stupid.

That had nothing to do with when I posted. And to be honest, that didn't subtract away from his bad play at all. Not even close. And really that doesn't make much sense, given that Wall didn't give anybody any ammunition of good plays to outweigh the bad.
It's a team game with so many ebbs and flows. I'm not blaming it all on Wall, and I'm not absolving him of all the blame, but it's silly to say it's all his fault.
This doesn't make sense.

I'm not heaping all the blame on him - I'm saying he deserves most of the blame. Which is reasonable.

And no It's over when one team wins 4 games. Win or lose, every game is an opportunity to learn and get better, Wall is having a bad series, he's going to get better, but there isn't much more else to say. These guys aren't robots. They come out and play like shyt sometimes, they come out and play well sometimes. Just so happens he's playing like shyt in the playoffs his first go round..
Not only are you talking in circles here, but you've also contradicted yourself - if you come out and play shyt, you deserved to be criticized, save me the human interest rhetoric.
To say it's all his fault and Wall needs to win it singlehandedly blah blah blah he's supposed to be this, he's supposed to be that, is just corny and reeks of of the same shyt I get sick of hearing cornball cac journalists rehash endlessly..
I never said it's all his fault and no he's not supposed to win it single handedly. Seen now you're going to the other extreme ---- there has to be ownership here for his play.

You're not telling me anything I already don't know. And no, it's not about performing to their ability and status, it's called probability and variance. If it was as easy having them go out and play the same way every night, sports wouldn't be so unpredictable..

You can gtfoh with this bullshyt. That's the problem here, it's not one or two games where he playing like shyt, it's been pretty much the entire playoffs. Save me all these coppin of pleas, cause they ain't flying... not one of them,. If this is down to probability of play, then he was never that good to begin with..... something which conflicts with his ability.

"Clutch, playing to their status, superstars, winners," is just conjecture and bullshyt and there's nothing more to say..
Nope. You don't believe that for a second.

Wall's jumper is broken some nights, and some nights it isn't, but we know it's probably going to be broken more nights than not. He settled a lot tonight for his lowest percentage shots, when he went to the basket he either kicked it out or missed. Those low percentage shots he were taking were close misses, his mechanics have gotten better and I've noticed all season so his jumper is fixable—anyone's jumper is fixable.

He's 23 years old. Three years from now rip apart and do all the bullshyt you want, but I'm not going to be a victim of the moment.

It's not really being a victim of the moment, it's about telling it like it is. You're making this out to be something that it's not.
I just honestly don't know what you want me to say or admit, but ok, so make another scathing rebuttal and I'll respond because I ain't got shyt else to do but watch this syndicated Shaft movie.

I don't really care either way, it's just strange how you're tap dancing around Wall, excusing his play for his age and deflecting blame away from him.

Real quick: Harden is a convenient parallel to draw, but we've seen greatness from him in the playoffs a la the Spurs series on OKC, and we've seen pathetic shyt from him, but we have a decent sample size to judge him with, with Wall, we have one.

That's why I think that's an unfair comparison at this point.

Harden has always been garbage as #1 option in the playoffs, the comparison lies in that these excuses were not afforded to him last season, and rightfully so, he played like shyt and was a major reason for why the lost in the first round. The problem here is that, Wall isn't playing good or even average, he's playing bad..for not only this series but the last one as well.
 

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And I saw Wall miss shots that he hasn't been making all series long. Kind of strange how you've barely highlighted his poor play, which has been a common theme all throughout the playoffs and focused on what his team failed to do, when their role/failing to produce has had a sub-plot significance.




That had nothing to do with when I posted. And to be honest, that didn't subtract away from his bad play at all. Not even close. And really that doesn't make much sense, given that Wall didn't give anybody any ammunition of good plays to outweigh the bad.

This doesn't make sense.

I'm not heaping all the blame on him - I'm saying he deserves most of the blame. Which is reasonable.


Not only are you talking in circles here, but you've also contradicted yourself - if you come out and play shyt, you deserved to be criticized, save me the human interest rhetoric.

I never said it's all his fault and no he's not supposed to win it single handedly. Seen now you're going to the other extreme ---- there has to be ownership here for his play.



You can gtfoh with this bullshyt. That's the problem here, it's not one or two games where he playing like shyt, it's been pretty much the entire playoffs. Save me all these coppin of pleas, cause they ain't flying... not one of them,. If this is down to probability of play, then he was never that good to begin with..... something which conflicts with his ability.


Nope. You don't believe that for a second.



It's not really being a victim of the moment, it's about telling it like it is. You're making this out to be something that it's not.


I don't really care either way, it's just strange how you're tap dancing around Wall, excusing his play for his age and deflecting blame away from him.



Harden has always been garbage as #1 option in the playoffs, the comparison lies in that these excuses were not afforded to him last season, and rightfully so, he played like shyt and was a major reason for why the lost in the first round. The problem here is that, Wall isn't playing good or even average, he's playing bad..for not only this series but the last one as well.

I disagree with a lot of your points, but if you think he deserves most of the blame, that's on you b. I don't think he does. He could be playing a lot better, but it is what it is.

Maybe the gawd will have a nice game 5.
 

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Wall is trash. You got all these wizards fans who don't understand basketball always thinking his slept on. We made it this far dispite him. Might have made it to the finals of we had like Mario charmers or Lowry
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Fukk outta here, majority of reason the what amounts to a bunch of role players besides Beale even scores is off wall speed pushing the ball, and or penetrating, I wish the Wizards would trade wall for Chalmers lol, miss me with that u don't watch the games shyt too, live and va and got Comcast sports net as well, seen these dudes more thanmy own ssquad

Wall is trash. You got all these wizards fans who don't understand basketball always thinking his slept on. We made it this far dispite him. Might have made it to the finals of we had like Mario charmers or Lowry
 
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I disagree with a lot of your points, but if you think he deserves most of the blame, that's on you b. I don't think he does. He could be playing a lot better, but it is what it is.

Maybe the gawd will have a nice game 5.
For a max salary player (who's suppose to be the leader of this team) with production of: 11.5 points per game, 31% field goal, 9% 3point field goal, 7.5 assists per game, 3.5 turnovers - the argument weighs heavily in my favor. It's one thing to disagree with the notion that he's largely at fault, it's another to think that stance is totally unreasonable. Wall still that dude tho.

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