yes, but entertain me for a moment. "Jacobs Ladder" a very important vision has been turned into something it may not be which to me is the origin of the "separation" of heaven and earth in peoples understanding.
i have meditated on this in my dialogues with
@Koichos who has been warm despite my charges. From my perspective the "Sullam" that Jacob saw was not a literal ladder but
a woman. Yet because of the current idea of it, christians (and probably other many other believers in the blessings of Jacob) see this separation of heaven and earth as something fixed when Genesis 1 clearly states that the Heaven is fixed between waters above and below. God says not once that the waters above the earth are heaven nor are the waters below the earth heaven but the inbetween is the Heaven
which includes the Earth.
However if you were to speak to someone about this they would be flabbergasted as to why I would say "we are in heaven" and dont realize it. In either case, Gehenna to me is an idea that should fade away for all believers sakes and to leave to God the fate of our futures which are not necessarily fixed...
this post summarizes my thought
Who says God is a man? Or even human Only men can hold convo with the father most high, I don’t know why it’s like that but almost every successful religion and culture came to that conclusion.
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