Kamala Harris vs. Maxine Waters, Issa Rae's Inherited Cluelessness about Black Life 7/31

[Neuromancer]

@Ziggiy you may want to listen to this, breh

 

[Neuromancer]

I don't care for Kamala Harris, ain't nothing but Obama in a dress, low-key passing. Her politricks is shady as hell, and IDGAF that she black. I did not vote for Obama the second time around. Issa hate is, she built her show from scratch. I don't get it,who represents black in America? We don't have Different World, Cosby, or Family Matters, etc, anymore because of the agenda, but they are quick to push B-Ball wives and L&HH.

I have my thoughts on Ms. Carnell, she is 50/50 with me. Can a sitcom just be a show that can be enjoyed. What can African Americans enjoy these days? :noc00n:

created by the coli's own @Ziggiy

 

[TRY GOD]

People in this thread for this non AA:

 

[satam55]

People in this thread for this non AA:

That's Christen Karazin's book.

 

[TRY GOD]

That's Christen Karazin's book.

I think whats not being said overall in this thread is not only will the dominant society up hold non AAs as representation for AAs, but these AAs have their own agendas that are NOT FOR AAs, but for acceptance. Yall really fooled by these "akward black girls" but kamala is not even AA let alone fully black, sleeping with the enemy, and issa has a history of shytting on black men and bedwenching in her show, I dont watch her show, but the preview shows her kissing on white boys.

White people allow these type of black women to run amok with what ever anti-black (male) agenda they have, and we accept it because "these are our queens who need to be praised." These people are dangerous as hell.

 

[Phoenix Rising]

You forgot the picture of Willie Brown.

 

[Phoenix Rising]

Note: i didn't say she don't have links to powerful Blacks in the area. I said she didn't care for Black people. The common Black person. This is what you Negros MUST understand.

Being an AKA means nothing. Literally nothing. You don't take an oath to fight for the rights of Black people. She's not like you.

Her sister is not her. What is more down than not. Roland Martin is more down than not. What actions has she shown professionally that says she's more down than not? Please go into detail. I dont want to create an exposal thread because I still have links to these people and what I know, the public don't know and it is not just about Kamala either but this is nonsense

Kamala is very problematic and no one is going to vote for her nationally. They may as well hang it up trying to raise her profile.

 

[afterlife2009]

Spoiler

"cults on the right and left are but cults on the center are "

 

[Yayo Toure]

Kamala is very problematic and no one is going to vote for her nationally. They may as well hang it up trying to raise her profile.

The Dems are too tone deaf, they will spend alot of money on social media marketing propaganda to raise her profile, and the republicans will do their research and uncover ALL of her dirt, and it will be curtains. We'll get another run from Hillary, and she'll lose again.

Everybody just save your money and invest wisely and stay healthy. No leadership is going to save us right now.

 

[Kenny West]

I'm not really into Issa rae and her media but demanding "accurate representation" and philanthropy out of someone's art is just lame to me

It's not Issa Rae's job to represent you. It's not issa rae's job to make media that captures your day to day experiences. At what point was her show implied to be a perfect summation She can make her art about what she wants. if people didn't already relate to it she wouldn't have gotten the following she does now

"Hoteps" love lobbing responsibility of acting in the interest of the entire diaspora 24/7 on certain media personalities that they just so happen to personally dislike. Considering the amount of black art that perpetuates stereotypes and reinforces negative themes it can never not be disingenuous to me how ppl cherry pick their targets. We need to dead this MO to tear ppl down for failing to walk on water or not adhering to some rules of pro blackness that are made up on the fly.

 

[Poitier]

I'm not really into Issa rae and her media but demanding "accurate representation" and philanthropy out of someone's art is just lame to me.

Once again, its not the argument she is making.

Carnell is saying White folks are quicker to prop up and fund folks who are removed from the AA experience as a way to delegitimize AAs as a specific ethnic group which is why she cites folks like Rae, Obama, Kamala, etc...not that their experiences aren't genuine, entertaining, legitimate, or that they didn't work hard to get where they are at though I'd question those arguments personally.

Please watch the fukking video yall.

 

[Kenny West]

Once again, its not the argument she is making.

Carnell is saying White folks are quicker to prop up and fund folks who are removed from the AA experience as a way to delegitimize AAs as a specific ethnic group which is why she cites folks like Rae, Obama, Kamala, etc...not that their experiences aren't genuine, entertaining, legitimate, or that they didn't work hard to get where they are at.

Please watch the fukking video yall.

I watched the entire segment on issa rae and some of the kamala harris portion miss me with that

Her whole bridge to wrapping issa into that point is the fact that her show didn't encapsulate the "AA experience" and because of that it's somehow delegitimizing it. That is fukking toxic no way around it. Think about it, if Issa was any other race would we be talking about how a romance drama show is delegitimizing the experiences of millions of people?

Furthermore the argument is pointless and vague. What experience is being omitted to the point where it's a slight on the entire ethnic group? How much good does the "legitimate experience" in a work of fiction do for her to attack issa over it? Why are we acting like Issa is the only black person in the media so it's up to her to legitimize us? Why are we acting like the "AA experience" has never and will never be portrayed?

This is clown shyt

 

[Poitier]

Her whole bridge to wrapping issa into that point is the fact that her show didn't encapsulate the "AA experience" and because of that it's somehow delegitimizing it.

She clearly says the show itself isn't bad and she has no problem with Issa as a person so did you watch it and if you did then you didn't comprehend what she was saying.

Furthermore the argument is pointless and vague. What experience is being omitted to the point where it's a slight on the entire ethnic group? How much good does the "legitimate experience" in a work of fiction do for her to attack issa over it? Why are we acting like Issa is the only black person in the media so it's up to her to legitimize us? Why are we acting like the "AA experience" has never and will never be portrayed?

Ok...baby steps

She isn't saying Insecure by itself delegitimizes the AA experience..

follow me...

She is saying in multiple avenues of American life, the phenomena of propping up Black immigrants does...

Hence her referencing Kamala, Obama....these are specific examples to explain the greater phenomena.

And shows depicting the AA experience are definitely not things in 2017 and anyone who grew up in the 70s, 80s, and 90s and even the early 00s can attest to that. Yall are big on that "erasure" word, correct?

 

[Kenny West]

She clearly says the show itself isn't bad and she has no problem with Issa as a person so did you watch it and if you did then you didn't comprehend what she was saying.



Ok...baby steps

She isn't saying Insecure by itself delegitimizes the AA experience..

follow me...

She is saying in multiple avenues of American life, the phenomena of propping up Black immigrants does...

Hence her referencing Kamala, Obama....these are specific examples to explain the greater phenomena.

And shows depicting the AA experience are definitely not things in 2017 and anyone who grew up in the 70s, 80s, and 90s and even the early 00s can attest to that. Yall are big on that "erasure" word, correct?

You're trying to make this into some profound point when it's really haterism mixed with tribalism

As for the bold, again I ask.....HOW?

And don't tell me some bullshyt about "w-w-well it took the opportunity away from other AA" after this

Once again, its not the argument she is making.

Carnell is saying White folks are quicker to prop up and fund folks who are removed from the AA experience as a way to delegitimize AAs as a specific ethnic group which is why she cites folks like Rae, Obama, Kamala, etc...not that their experiences aren't genuine, entertaining, legitimate, or that they didn't work hard to get where they are at though I'd question those arguments personally.

Please watch the fukking video yall.

She had a webshow with a genuine following and then got picked up for a TV series. This happens to white content creators too so I'm wondering why only a black person has to deal with this action interpreted as a slight against her entire race.

I don't give a fukk where her parents are from, I need a better explanation of how her success takes something away from me.


"HER SUCCESS = DELEGITIMACY OF AFRICAN AMERICANS" is the point we can't reconcile.

All of this is just to make a reason to say "She's not one of us!!" in spite of being black and american and to conclude that her success is harmful to black people. fukk out of here

 

[Poitier]

You're trying to make this into some profound point when it's really haterism mixed with tribalism

It is tribalism...and?

And more and more AAs are going to be ethnocentric going forward once they get privy to the bullshyt.

She isn't one of us. Though you probably aren't either which explains the nonsense.

Stay mad.

She had a webshow with a genuine following and then got picked up for a TV series. This happens to white content creators too so I'm wondering why only a black person has to deal with this action interpreted as a slight against an entire race.

Because White Americans aren't owed reparations....was that really a thought you conjured up? lol