Kamala Harris vs. Maxine Waters, Issa Rae's Inherited Cluelessness about Black Life 7/31

[Versa]

Issa still the homie.

fukk Kamala harris tho

 

[EndDomination]

What happened to "staying on code."
shyt was alive and well in the R. Kelly thread

 

[karim]

Stick to the topic or dont post.

i did. this thread is about a crazy woman who can't even make her recording space look appealing or use a clip on mic ranting into a camera

 

[chickenteriyaki]

It's crazy that the funds generated by a t-shirt for black women's equal pay, went to white feminist organizations. They have no shame.

Black women need to wake up and understand the "feminist" movement is not for them and is only beneficial to white women!

Feminism actually disinfranchises the black community more than it will help. And it is sad that black women are fighting this fight so hard. Asian women are the 3rd highest paid group, after Asian men and white men, respectively. I don't see Asian women going hard for feminism at all. I actually rarely hear a peep from the Asian community re: feminist movement. Think about it...

How can 4 groups of women fight for the same cause when they all have diffferent rights and privileges?

 

[Dr. Acula]

The Issa Rae shyt seems stupid asf. Last I checked she isn't claiming to speak for all black people.

And you can't tell Issa Rae to stop doing what she's doing and just "do her".

Her fukking show is literally based on her fukking life, starring her, doing the shyt she actually did , from her fukking perspective, off of the script she fukking wrote.

Issa is literally doing 100% her, in every fukking way. Not that its going to stop the fake woke nation from hating on another successful black person no matter what; but damn, that just shows how deep their self hate is. Issa started her shyt by doing self bio bits on her YT channel based off her own life, and spun it into a successful Black operated/staffed and cast HBO show, and these nikkas STILL got hate in they blood.

People need to step back and look at the larger picture from a distance. All these fake woke a$$holes do is spend day after day hating on Black folk. Usually successful ones.

ANY fukking body who does that is your enemy. Stop falling for the oke dokey just because these devils were born with our skin color. An enemy is an enemy, no matter the melanin level.

As @Poitier said, you missed the point of what she said.

Outside of critiqueing Issa for saying "we just need old white racist people to die to improve race relations" and being naive, she was actually complementary towards her.

Her point was that simply being black isn't enough to fully appreciate and understand the "black American" experience. Does her parents and ancestors have the same experience as most AAs of living under Jim Crow? No. Does her ancestors have the same experience of American slavery? No. If anything they probably sold slaves to whites.

Her point is that the media and society seems to find people who have no real roots in the African American experience to be representative of the African America experience. Not that she is a bad person, but a lot of African immigrants like her parents come from a different experience. Sadly this means that they seem to fall into and prop up the white supremacist system as a result.

Kampala Harris is raised by an Indian mom and a Jamaican dad and her aunt says that she is what she is today only because of her Indian mother, and we're supposed to believethat she has a true connection to the African American community? Not to mention she was raised solely by her Indian mother from age 7 and onwards after they got divorced and lived in Canada for a good part of her life.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

As @Poitier said, you missed the point of what she said.

Outside of critiqueing Issa for saying "we just need old white racist people to die to improve race relations" and being naive, she was actually complementary towards her.

Her point was that simply being black isn't enough to fully appreciate and understand the "black American" experience. Does her parents and ancestors have the same experience as most AAs of living under Jim Crow? No. Does her ancestors have the same experience of American slavery? No. If anything they probably sold slaves to whites.

Her point is that the media and society seems to find people who have no real roots in the African American experience to be representative of the African America experience. Not that she is a bad person, but a lot of African immigrants like her parents come from a different experience. Sadly this means that they seem to fall into and prop up the white supremacist system as a result.

Kampala Harris is raised by an Indian mom and a Jamaican dad and her aunt says that she is what she is today only because of her Indian mother, and we're supposed to believethat she has a true connection to the African American community? Not to mention she was raised solely by her Indian mother from age 7 and onwards after they got divorced and lived in Canada for a good part of her life.

And she's right.

Umar says this sometimes as well.

Poor and working class black people really haven't had REAL representation on a national level since dr king and Malcolm, before those deep pocket corporate politicians aligned themselves with our movement in the 80's (Jesse and al)

 

[DrBanneker]

Note: i didn't say she don't have links to powerful Blacks in the area. I said she didn't care for Black people. The common Black person. This is what you Negros MUST understand.

Being an AKA means nothing. Literally nothing. You don't take an oath to fight for the rights of Black people. She's not like you.

Her sister is not her. What is more down than not. Roland Martin is more down than not. What actions has she shown professionally that says she's more down than not? Please go into detail. I dont want to create an exposal thread because I still have links to these people and what I know, the public don't know and it is not just about Kamala either but this is nonsense

I'm sure you probably know a lot...and given her rise and actions I would generally agree we are not on her radar. I have not seen her take an non-Democratic Party approved fights on our behalf. No argument there. I was mostly replying to dudes saying she was Indian or had no connection to the Black community. I know that is false but my data points are from back when she was relatively unknown. People indeed do change.

 

[Milk N Cookies]

The Issa Rae shyt seems stupid asf. Last I checked she isn't claiming to speak for all black people.

And you can't tell Issa Rae to stop doing what she's doing and just "do her".

Her fukking show is literally based on her fukking life, starring her, doing the shyt she actually did , from her fukking perspective, off of the script she fukking wrote.

Issa is literally doing 100% her, in every fukking way. Not that its going to stop the fake woke nation from hating on another successful black person no matter what; but damn, that just shows how deep their self hate is. Issa started her shyt by doing self bio bits on her YT channel based off her own life, and spun it into a successful Black operated/staffed and cast HBO show, and these nikkas STILL got hate in they blood.

People need to step back and look at the larger picture from a distance. All these fake woke a$$holes do is spend day after day hating on Black folk. Usually successful ones.

ANY fukking body who does that is your enemy. Stop falling for the oke dokey just because these devils were born with our skin color. An enemy is an enemy, no matter the melanin level.

Issa Rae actually goes out of her way not to speak for or be an example of black people in general in interviews. One of the things she speaks about that makes her an awkward black girl is the fact that her parents are immigrants and never really fitting in. Not "black" enough for black kids, not "white" enough for white kids, too Americanized when visiting Africa, and too African in America.

She is an awkward black girl, not an example of all awkward black girls. She subverts the trope of the confident, strong and sassy black woman and shows that we can be flawed and vulnerable and that everyone is basically out here still trying to figure out their lives. No one really has it all figured out.

Issa Rae actually goes out of her way not to speak for or be an example of black people in general in interviews. One of the things she speaks about that makes her an awkward black girl is the fact that her parents are immigrants and never really fitting in. Not "black" enough for black kids, not "white" enough for white kids, too Americanized when visiting Africa, and too African in America.

She is an awkward black girl, not an example of all awkward black girls. She subverts the trope of the confident, strong and sassy black woman and shows that we can be flawed and vulnerable and that everyone is basically out here still trying to figure out their lives. No one really has it all figured out.

Exactly her life experience is her story, a lot of people not just black women can relate. It just happens thatbher syle of story telling; her story in particular is relatable closer to black women.

 

[Poitier]

Its amazing to me how folks will come into a thread, not watch the video the topic is about and make a bunch of straw man emotional arguments irrelevant to the points the video is making.

 

[GMoney]

These shirts originally were priced at for 32 dollars y'all.

Using black women as the face of the shirt while most of the proceeds go to white organizations. Let me find out these shirts are made in some sweatshop by underpaid female labor.

 

[Milk N Cookies]

These shirts originally were priced at for 32 dollars y'all.

Using black women as the face of the shirt while most of the proceeds go to white organizations. Let me find out these shirts are made in some sweatshop by underpaid female labor.

This is why if imma want a statement shirt I'll get it made at a mall kiosk for the same price if not less. That way I know where the money goes.

 

[Supa]

I respect what Issa has done starting with a Youtube show.

I ain't even gonna lie I'm not a fan of the show, but since the idea is it is her story, she needs to be more authentic.
She sells her story as the unique, "different experiences" daughter of Senegalese immigrants yadi, yada. Great. Where's that side of the story ? Her relationship with her parents: When they gonna show up with her African aunts and uncles to her apartment and weep when they find out what she does for a living? Or the African friends looking for white husbands? Where are the other nerdy black kids she went to school with? Do they avoid each other in real life/her real story?
If she's chopping and screwing the story, then she should turn down the volume about her show being some sort of sistagurl spiritual journey and stack her HBO coins. No hate just keeping it 100.

So you want her to fit all that into 23 minute episodes?

It's a comedy largely based on her relationship/dating struggles. All that stuff you mentioned has nothing to do with anything.

 

[SagalaMiner]

So you want her to fit all that into 23 minute episodes?

It's a comedy largely based on her relationship/dating struggles. All that stuff you mentioned has nothing to do with anything.

If it's based on her life why are the African/immigrant/bourgeois roots of her experience invisible. I don't know too many African kids with brand name degrees who have relationships with guys flopping on their couch. Again, I don't watch the show regularly, but I'll be very dissapointed if in the end it turns out this is based on what some people in a conference room at HBO came up with as the black awkward/bourgie/non-conformist experience.

If she has the courage to talk about reparations on the show, which is not a subject we talk about in public to any ol' person, why don't she touch on just one issue related to her Senegalese or immigrant background too? How does reparations affect her dating struggles and relationships?
I doubt I'm part of the target audience so it really doesn't matter, but it is a legit question if the stoylines are based on her real life and not a caricature.

She's very talented and I wish her all the success despite my misgivings, can't be worse than anything we've seen or heard already.

 

[Afro]

It's crazy that the funds generated by a t-shirt for black women's equal pay, went to white feminist organizations. They have no shame.

I actually feel disgusted reading that.

 

[TRY GOD]

Issa Rae actually goes out of her way not to speak for or be an example of black people in general in interviews. One of the things she speaks about that makes her an awkward black girl is the fact that her parents are immigrants and never really fitting in. Not "black" enough for black kids, not "white" enough for white kids, too Americanized when visiting Africa, and too African in America.

She is an awkward black girl, not an example of all awkward black girls. She subverts the trope of the confident, strong and sassy black woman and shows that we can be flawed and vulnerable and that everyone is basically out here still trying to figure out their lives. No one really has it all figured out.

What does this have to do with ACTUAL WORK PUT IN FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN, let alone all AA?