Kamala Harris Officially Announces 2020 Presidential Bid - Kamala Bear... GRRRR!!!

[Robbie3000]

No. Forward it to me, I’ll read it.

I understand where you coming from but I’m willing to give Kamala a chance. Bernie always struck me as the typical liberal with white mans burden complex. He comes across as dismissive and condescending when he’s speaks directly to black people. I’m also a bit turned off by his freedom fighter activist act when he purposely moved to the whitest state in America. It seems a bit counterintuitive for someone with his platform to leave New York. And trust....Trump will be petty enough to point that out. It would be like Barack leaving Chicago to start his political career back home in Hawaii Barack would look silly trying to connect with the black community if that was the case and I expect Bernie to have the same issue with black voters in the South and the Midwest.

I do concede that Bernie has good ideas but, politicians have been promising the sun and moon every election. I want a realist who has an actual plan, not a flowery idealist who has a million things that he says he going to do when he knows there’s no way to pay for it and that it will never pass on the floor. I was willing to swallow how I felt about him at the time because it was nitpicking and because Hilary stunk worse. I guess I thought even if he wasn’t Obama, if his policies worked out, the tide would hopefully raise all boats. But now that we have a lot of interesting candidates that are running I’m not as interested in him anymore.

Of course if he is nominated, I’ll vote for him.

As far as Kamala goes, I need to read more into her background. I’m not willing to tear her down just yet.

Opinion | Kamala Harris Was Not a ‘Progressive Prosecutor’

 

[No1]

No. Forward it to me, I’ll read it.

I understand where you coming from but I’m willing to give Kamala a chance. Bernie always struck me as the typical liberal with white mans burden complex. He comes across as dismissive and condescending when he’s speaks directly to black people. I’m also a bit turned off by his freedom fighter activist act when he purposely moved to the whitest state in America. It seems a bit counterintuitive for someone with his platform to leave New York. And trust....Trump will be petty enough to point that out. It would be like Barack leaving Chicago to start his political career back home in Hawaii Barack would look silly trying to connect with the black community if that was the case and I expect Bernie to have the same issue with black voters in the South and the Midwest.

I do concede that Bernie has good ideas but, politicians have been promising the sun and moon every election. I want a realist who has an actual plan, not a flowery idealist who has a million things that he says he going to do when he knows there’s no way to pay for it and that it will never pass on the floor. I was willing to swallow how I felt about him at the time because it was nitpicking and because Hilary stunk worse. I guess I thought even if he wasn’t Obama, if his policies worked out, the tide would hopefully raise all boats. But now that we have a lot of interesting candidates that are running I’m not as interested in him anymore.

Of course if he is nominated, I’ll vote for him.

As far as Kamala goes, I need to read more into her background. I’m not willing to tear her down just yet.

The problem withnyour idealist argument and actual plan argument is that he had released plans and "realism" is often just peoole settling. Kamala is currently pushing Sanders' idealistic medicare for all plan and is a co sponsor. You guys are spinning your wheels trying to justify voting based on identity. You basically said Sanders is an old white dude and kamala is half black so you will give her the benefit of the doubt despite her best policy positions coming from him.

 

[Apollo Kid]

Seriously, there are NO positives to Biden other than "was associated with Obama" and "looks presidential."

Actually there is...Those memes of Obama and Biden being BFF's.

 

[Russian Bot v.2.1]

3. Harris also has been a strong advocate of civil asset forfeiture. She supported a bill in California that would have allowed prosecutors to seize assets before initiating criminal proceedings — a power now available only at the federal level — if there were a “substantial probability” they would eventually initiate such proceedings. Besides cases involving violent crimes, the legislation allowed seizures in cases involving such crimes as bribery, gambling, and trafficking endangered species. Harris endorsed the bill after then-attorney general Eric Holder sharply limited civil asset forfeiture among federal prosecutors. She argued that the practice gave local and state law-enforcement officials “more tools to target the illicit profits [of transnational criminal groups] and dismantle these dangerous organizations.”

She argued against the Obama Administration on civil asset forfeiture.

Her policies as a prosecutor were clearly those of a Republican AG. I don't know how anyone could argue otherwise.

 

[nyknick]

It's gonna be a hot summer

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Actually there is...Those memes of Obama and Biden being BFF's.

never underestimate the power of a meme

 

[wire28]

This is a pretty fair article on Kamala Harris and her positions and history on justice issues. Coli pressure has put me on the fence with her, could go either way. So far it's between her, Bernie, and Warren for me.

Kamala Harris’s controversial record on criminal justice, explained

Pretty much have to come to your own determination. There are some out there that are literally going to bash everyone that isn’t Bernie (or warren) so you have to wade through the mud to get the real story.

 

[the next guy]

Tearing down a black Howard University graduate because she aint black enough for you but, you in love with a white man from the whitest state in New England. Who trolling who And there's a very thin film separating Bernie bros from Trump supporters. Both bases are angry frustrated white males.

She's married to a white guy, this line of attack is dead man. You have to go with something else.

 

[dtownreppin214]

Still blows my mind that anyone thinks Biden is a good candidate. He combines the worst of every other candidate into one package.

* Trash history in national elections

* Puts his foot in his mouth on public stages

* Creepy around women

* Pure establishment

* Not liberal

* Too old


Seriously, there are NO positives to Biden other than "was associated with Obama" and "looks presidential."

He's the safest candidate in a general election vs Trump because he's a white man with a working class background and ties to the Rust Belt. He'd win PA and I'm confident he'd take back Michigan, Wisconsin, and possibly Ohio. As a primary candidate he's hard to swallow because of some of the things you listed and where the party is headed (I don't think the gaffes matter anymore these days). Picking a running mate like Beto would help him with some of his weaknesses (old, not liberal enough, establishment).

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

He's the safest candidate in a general election vs Trump because he's a white man with a working class background and ties to the Rust Belt. He'd win PA and I'm confident he'd take back Michigan, Wisconsin, and possibly Ohio. As a primary candidate he's hard to swallow because of some of the things you listed and where the party is headed (I don't think the gaffes matter anymore these days). Picking a running mate like Beto would help him with some of his weaknesses (old, not liberal enough, establishment).

Agree with the gaffes part

Some could even possibly be spun to a positive if the candidate has a sense of humor and can be self deprecating. People can see it as charming

Touching people is more than a gaffe though

Its unclear how negative that thing with him will be

 

[chico25]

He's the safest candidate in a general election vs Trump because he's a white man with a working class background and ties to the Rust Belt. He'd win PA and I'm confident he'd take back Michigan, Wisconsin, and possibly Ohio. As a primary candidate he's hard to swallow because of some of the things you listed and where the party is headed (I don't think the gaffes matter anymore these days). Picking a running mate like Beto would help him with some of his weaknesses (old, not liberal enough, establishment).

Why do people keep assuming one candidate is "safer" than others. The Democrats just lost a presidential election by pushing people toward the "safer candidate. The last 2 Democratic presidents weren't the safest candidate, they were the candidates that the people chose because they inspired them with their ideas. We should just let the candidates run and let the people decide who they want.

 

[Reece]

She's married to a white guy, this line of attack is dead man. You have to go with something else.

I’m not butt hurt about who she sleeps with.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

He's the safest candidate in a general election vs Trump because he's a white man with a working class background and ties to the Rust Belt. He'd win PA and I'm confident he'd take back Michigan, Wisconsin, and possibly Ohio. As a primary candidate he's hard to swallow because of some of the things you listed and where the party is headed (I don't think the gaffes matter anymore these days). Picking a running mate like Beto would help him with some of his weaknesses (old, not liberal enough, establishment).

You're confident that Obama's VP will take back the states that were lost as a backlash to the perceived effects of Obama's presidency?

I think you're assuming too much. Not only will a lot of disgruntled rust belt voters say that they don't want more of the same establishment that created their problems in the first place, but black, young, and liberal voters could all have minimal energy for Biden too and stay home in droves.

If you're going to go with an old White guy, Bernie's got a working class background, is popular in the rust belt, doesn't have problematic ties to the previous status quo, and actually energizes a lot of voters who otherwise wouldn't get out there to vote.

 

[the next guy]

I’m not butt hurt about who she sleeps with.

Too many people are. Black people, not bots or trolls or anything like that.

 

[JoogJoint]

A black Howard graduate who relished locking nikkas up by any means necessary.

Did you read the NYT article on her record As DA and AG?

My cousin is a public defender and he told me he has to deal with these types of black women everyday. They don’t care about the community. All they care about is their conviction rate and climbing the career ladder. He told me has more disdain for these types than the racist white prosecutors he has to fight everyday.

Don't make this a Black Woman bashing thread, please. Harris is NOT a Black Woman and most Black Women don't claim her.