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If you feel you are a part of a large voting block who aren't being represented the only logical solution is to run yourself.

It worked for AOC.

I see what you are saying. AOC wasn't a just barista who just decided to run randomly one day. She did have experience in politics beforehand. But yes, more young and black people should be civically or more civically involved.
 

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They did run. Two of them got screwed and 3 prominent ones are currently in the House.

I feel like we're not talking about the same thing. What exactly are you referring to?
I'm talking about people who complain about the lack or viable candidates as an excuse to not vote. Not voting is fundamentally flawed in and of itself.

We see a lot of candidates that cater to long standing consistent voting blocks. And those people get more as a result E.g. Old people and conservatives.

There's a large group of young voters who don't vote, but also complain about the lack of candidates. The simple solution is for young people to run.

Yes, two black people got screwed in the last election. A lot of that is a direct result of letting conservatives pull the levers for too long. That has allowed them to rig the system
 

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The majority of people who don't vote are broke people who see no value in it or don't make the time/have the resources to go vote. Sanders loss was built on him thinking he could get them to turnout for him. They supported him but they didn't show up enough. That 50% that doesn't vote are the brokest people in America. Calling them any sort of political party may be misguided. They may poll progressive but they simply don't participate.
Right.

The problem I've noticed during the 2016 and 2018 election is that there aren't enough resources being spent by state parties to get people registered to vote. The orgs out there are doing the best they can, but they don't have enough people on the ground or monetary resources to host large statewide initiatives. That's why automatic voter registration is so important. That's also why allowing centrist to bully people into thinking that programs for the poor are "far-left" are at best counter-productive and at worst down right evil.

Also you can't spring up "new" policies on the electorate DURING an election year. It has to be a policy or idea that is introduced years prior so that it doesn't seem like sham economics.
 

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But older centrist voters don't stay home. They're the most reliable voting block out there. They're a given no matter who the candidate is. It's Black, Latino, young, liberal, and non-party voters who are an actual threat to stay home.

This whole "large swaths of the base won't be mobilized if you go too far" claim hasn't been shown in any election. What was the race where a passionate Democratic candidate lost because the base stayed home?
This is the fear of centrist. they know that things like $15 minimum wage or automatic voter registration is popular. However, since they control most of the airtime or pages in print media, they create this atmosphere of panic. The Starbucks CEO's campaign is an example of that. He really believes he represents "the will of the people" when he probably couldn't net more than 2 million votes nationally.
 

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Why do people keep assuming one candidate is "safer" than others. The Democrats just lost a presidential election by pushing people toward the "safer candidate. The last 2 Democratic presidents weren't the safest candidate, they were the candidates that the people chose because they inspired them with their ideas. We should just let the candidates run and let the people decide who they want.
Not sure what you're point is. Me saying Biden is the safest candidate is also based on the polls that were released a few months ago showing him doing the best against Trump in a hypothetical matchup. He also has the highest favorability ratings of all the Dem candidates. I'm not advocating rigging the primary for him because of these data points he still needs to go out and win it.

Joe Biden's 2020 chances might be stronger than we think - CNNPolitics
 

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You're confident that Obama's VP will take back the states that were lost as a backlash to the perceived effects of Obama's presidency?

I think you're assuming too much. Not only will a lot of disgruntled rust belt voters say that they don't want more of the same establishment that created their problems in the first place, but black, young, and liberal voters could all have minimal energy for Biden too and stay home in droves.

If you're going to go with an old White guy, Bernie's got a working class background, is popular in the rust belt, doesn't have problematic ties to the previous status quo, and actually energizes a lot of voters who otherwise wouldn't get out there to vote.
Yes I'm confident he'd take back those states. Those are his people. They don't judge Biden the same way they do Obama. Plus that was more to do with Russia influence, Clinton's incompetency and the white-lash. He'd clearly take back Pennsylvania, he's currently up by the biggest margins in Michigan and leading all Dems in Iowa, all this without announcing yet. He'd obviously need to add someone like Beto or Warren to his ticket to satisfy liberals but I think he'd do better with black voters than Bernie because of his connection to Obama.
 

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Yes I'm confident he'd take back those states. Those are his people. They don't judge Biden the same way they do Obama. Plus that was more to do with Russia influence, Clinton's incompetency and the white-lash. He'd clearly take back Pennsylvania, he's currently up by the biggest margins in Michigan and leading all Dems in Iowa, all this without announcing yet. He'd obviously need to add someone like Beto or Warren to his ticket to satisfy liberals but I think he'd do better with black voters than Bernie because of his connection to Obama.
"Clinton's incompetency" ain't a good look when Biden's been more incompetent than her in every national election he ran in.

He's still obviously establishment.

I doubt he'd do better with Black voters than Bernie in the general. Who the hell is the Black voter who would go to the polls for fukking Joe Biden but otherwise stay home or vote for Trump?
 
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