Just watched the movie "Backstage" for the 1st time in years and realized that

[DANJ!]

Here's where you fukked up at though. -
J is a snake who was willing to betray Red, Meth, Beans and DMX to get where he's at. He was probably plotting on their downfall the entire time. It's not because he was smarter or worked harder or because he wasn't sleeping with Foxy when she was a minor. It's because Dame put him in a position of power and he screwed him over and climbed his way higher while standing on others backs.

Right... cause DMX being a crack addict and Beanie runnin' around in the streets like he didn't have anything better to do had nothin' to do with it. People always wanna call somebody a snake when the nikkas they supposedly fukked over are known for repeatedly doin' dumb shyt all on their own and fukkin' up their careers. So I guess Jay wouldn't have been a snake if he was out there doin' dumb shyt with 'em? Dudes like DMX and Sigel are the worst examples you could use- nikkas were gettin' paid, making successful albums and touring all over the world... and seemed to love goin' to jail more than they loved stayin' on that path.

 

[dre]

Nah...what exactly were they supposed to be doing but having fun after the shows. At the time Red and Meth were solidified stars, they got that movie after this ...so they couldn't have been slacking too hard.

As for the other artists I mean they were just that, they did their set, got off the road and got in the studio to rinse and repeat. Everybody isn't in it to diversify their portfolio and get on the forbes...being an artist is it for most of these guys.

You didn't see Jay because he had no personality and is a private person anyway

If I were a new artist on the hottest label out and had bosses over me that got shyt done I'd be "content" to have the time of my life too.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

you don't think ross is articulate? have you ever listened to him speak? dude's not some bama. he's on his business shyt. what gave you the impression he isn't? as for what has ross done that jeezy hasn't, he's built up an impressive movement/imprint with mmg. nobody knows who the fukk cte is. mmg continues having MAJOR releases, while cte still scratches their head over what to do with freddie gibbs.

Jeezy has had a clothing line. That's something he has over Ross. As far as business moves no I don't think Ross is articulate. He seems like the type that would walk in a business meeting reeking of weed. I've never seen him not in character.

 

[kermit da hustla]

Jeezy has had a clothing line. That's something he has over Ross. As far as business moves no I don't think Ross is articulate. He seems like the type that would walk in a business meeting reeking of weed. I've never seen him not in character.

what is this "character" you speak of?

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Nah...what exactly were they supposed to be doing but having fun after the shows. At the time Red and Meth were solidified stars, they got that movie after this ...so they couldn't have been slacking too hard.

As for the other artists I mean they were just that, they did their set, got off the road and got in the studio to rinse and repeat. Everybody isn't in it to diversify their portfolio and get on the forbes...being an artist is it for most of these guys.

You didn't see Jay because he had no personality and is a private person anyway

If I were a new artist on the hottest label out and had bosses over me that got shyt done I'd be "content" to have the time of my life too.

The way Red and Meth was acting I couldn't imagine Jay acting. That's why them nikkas are more likely to sign to another rappers label than their own. At the age they're at now and with the popularity they have they should be execs of at least their own movement. Busta Rhymes is signed to Cash Money because he didn't pivot off his buzz when he was hot. Flipmode was a glorified production deal. Im just saying, im younger than all dem nikkas but if I was in their position I would know what to do and what not to do. That sound like a hater thing to say but it's the truth. Jay was focused on the ultimate goal that's why he accomplished so much outside of hiphop. He can sit across from the jews in a office and conduct business. The same can't be said for anybody else on the hard knock life tour.

 

[JoelB]

Jay is naturally an introvert...

 

[dre]

The way Red and Meth was acting I couldn't imagine Jay acting. That's why them nikkas are more likely to sign to another rappers label than their own. At the age they're at now and with the popularity they have they should be execs of at least their own movement. Busta Rhymes is signed to Cash Money because he didn't pivot off his buzz when he was hot. Flipmode was a glorified production deal. Im just saying, im younger than all dem nikkas but if I was in their position I would know what to do and what not to do. That sound like a hater thing to say but it's the truth. Jay was focused on the ultimate goal that's why he accomplished so much outside of hiphop. He can sit across from the jews in a office and conduct business. The same can't be said for anybody else on the hard knock life tour.

That was Jay's ultimate goal, maybe not theirs. People need to realize everyone doesn't get into the game with Warren Buffet and Russell Simmons on their minds.

Some people want to just do their music and make a good living off that...and there's nothing wrong with that.

Just because everyone has some kind of crew nowadays doesn't mean that's what you have to do as a rite of passage, because only a handful are or were ever really worth a damn.

 

[jaguar paw]

Y'all nikkas seem to be experts on their private lives without any real facts or proof behind it.

Just an edited documentary. From 15 years ago.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

That was Jay's ultimate goal, maybe not theirs. People need to realize everyone doesn't get into the game with Warren Buffet and Russell Simmons on their minds.

Some people want to just do their music and make a good living off that...and there's nothing wrong with that.

Just because everyone has some kind of crew nowadays doesn't mean that's what you have to do as a rite of passage, because only a handful are or were ever really worth a damn.

Then why talk about being a don in your music like Nas does when he's only a record label employee? In his music he's a mogul/don. In reality he gives half of his advance and show money to Kelis and that's it.

 

[DANJ!]

The way Red and Meth was acting I couldn't imagine Jay acting. That's why them nikkas are more likely to sign to another rappers label than their own. At the age they're at now and with the popularity they have they should be execs of at least their own movement. Busta Rhymes is signed to Cash Money because he didn't pivot off his buzz when he was hot. Flipmode was a glorified production deal. Im just saying, im younger than all dem nikkas but if I was in their position I would know what to do and what not to do. That sound like a hater thing to say but it's the truth. Jay was focused on the ultimate goal that's why he accomplished so much outside of hiphop. He can sit across from the jews in a office and conduct business. The same can't be said for anybody else on the hard knock life tour.

I don't think it's that deep. Everybody's not in the music biz for the same thing. Plus it ain't like Red and Meth are DMX/Sigel/Ja types, just pissin' away their careers gettin' in trouble and goin' to jail. Some artists don't do music to become execs- there's a lot of rappers who tried to fake-exec and failed miserably. Doesn't make Red & Meth failures for not goin' Jay's route, because as shown by X/Sigel/Ja, they coulda done far worse.

 

[CapFromMCU]

off topic but i was reading prodigy's book yesterday, 50 Cent seems like the most focused, no-bullsh!t rapper in history. no after parties, no random groupies, no drugs and alcohol, no indulging in childish behavior. 1000% business.

smh @ 95% of rappers being drug addicts and alcoholics yet still not understanding why they eventually become broke.

#BlameItOnBadAccountants

 

[dre]

Then why talk about being a don in your music like Nas does when he's only a record label employee? In his music he's a mogul/don. In reality he gives half of his advance and show money to Kelis and that's it.

Are you serious right now

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

what is this "character" you speak of?

Rick Ross (Rapper, born William Leonard Roberts II) Interview at Def Jam Recordings - YouTube

The definition of a nikka that is trapped in a lie.

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

The way Red and Meth was acting I couldn't imagine Jay acting. That's why them nikkas are more likely to sign to another rappers label than their own. At the age they're at now and with the popularity they have they should be execs of at least their own movement. Busta Rhymes is signed to Cash Money because he didn't pivot off his buzz when he was hot. Flipmode was a glorified production deal. Im just saying, im younger than all dem nikkas but if I was in their position I would know what to do and what not to do. That sound like a hater thing to say but it's the truth. Jay was focused on the ultimate goal that's why he accomplished so much outside of hiphop. He can sit across from the jews in a office and conduct business. The same can't be said for anybody else on the hard knock life tour.

I don't even think these nikkas get. Just lil shyt, like you never seen J publicly smoke weed, even though he's mentioned smoking a few times. That nikka know how to move.

 

[DaveyDave]

Yep. Seems like Jay was the only rapper in the movie that didn't get high. I always wondered why more rappers didn't try to be bosses on Jay or 50's level but them nikkas don't have vices that the average rapper does. Can't be in meetings discussing millions if your high or drunk. Eminem would be so much more of a businessman had he never fukked with drugs. All his business deals were set up by Jimmy Iovine and all EM had to do was ok it. Like the Shady records and clothing line. If he was dialed in he could be on top of the forbes list every winter. Rick James said it best about cocaine.

not everyone is made to be a boss and if everyone was a boss or trying to be one then no one would be one because everyone would be on the same level. noone goes around saying every guitar player or pop singer needs to be a super business minded boss so why is that the expectation for rappers?

people fukk up, people have problems and people like to have fun while they're on tour