Just got back in from the club in Chicago....here's why nikkas are losing

[Luck]

But in this threw you see the usual suspects @Emperor_ReinScarf and people like him not adding anything fruitful to the discussion but always have some negative shyt to say

And I mention him because he is the most prominent canadien member here that I see promotes negativity but nothing positive.

Other posters do the same but I don't have their usernames memorized but feel free to either pm their names or @ them yourselves

 

[sportscribe]

How can this mentality change and what can be done about it?

It sounds cliche, but education will be a cornerstone in uplifting the black community. Black men need to pride ourselves more in intellectual pursuits and achievements and less in hypermasculinity.

Asian-Americans have a higher median household income than any other racial group in America.. this coincides directly with their higher levels of academic achievement. Per capita they are more educated than white Americans. Their communities are essentially founded on a desire to pursue education to improve their circumstance (there are other factors involved like immigration rates, family values etc). They understand that the establishment still favors eurocentric ideals, but they've found a way to work within the system by being smarter (Some emigrate to the U.S. already having degrees of course). It's not worth it that a handful of black people achieve success in this way.. individuals don't build communities. There has to be a shift in the psyche that has plagued the black community for so long. Hispanics and blacks have the lowest median household incomes in America and not unexpectedly are the two least educated groups. The correlation is undeniable.

Asian-Americans are the fastest growing demographic in America by the way (comparatively speaking). By 2050 they are projected to make up about 9% of the U.S. population. A population increase with that level of academic attainment.. well we don't need to spell out the implication. Just know that black people need to get It together fast.

 

[scarlxrd]

But in this threw you see the usual suspects @Emperor_ReinScarf and people like him not adding anything fruitful to the discussion but always have some negative shyt to say

And I mention him because he is the most prominent canadien member here that I see promotes negativity but nothing positive.

Other posters do the same but I don't have their usernames memorized but feel free to either pm their names or @ them yourselves

That's what happens when majority of the userbase here isn't black, you'll see them in these types of threads posting the same bogus nonsense, exposing themselves.

 

[Turbulent]

i feel what OP is saying but there are other dynamics at play here. most bars/pubs/clubs are operated by organized crime who are deep in the game and that's pretty much anywhere in North America (maybe even the world). i'm talking about the type of organized crime that has police in it's pocket. organized crime with accountants, lawyers and everything. the police will protect these establishments (up to a point). people (black as well as other races no better than to start trouble in these establishments).

if you're not organized to that level, police won't protect you. if there's too much trouble at your place and you can't control it, it becomes a nuisance to the police, the city, etc so they will try to shut you down. and yes, you being black adds to it.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

It sounds cliche, but education will be a cornerstone in uplifting the black community.

There's just one problem with that.......

Who controls the institutions of higher learning in America?​

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

So I'm working personal security at club shrine. It's a packed house full of our people, athletes and couple of other hood celebrities paying out the ass for vip and bottle service, pictures of Fela Kuti and other black icons on the walls, etc... Everybody's cool, the women are looking good, nikkas drinking and chilling but here's the catch: The owner is white as rice, there's cac cops outside yelling and talking to people like children, bartenders and management were primarily cac.

Now this isn't a dig to nikkas that want to go kick it and have fun on a Saturday night but how in the entire hell is this even possible? Could we as black people start a white themed bar / club with primarily black staff in a white area and have success? Could whites do the same with Asians or Mexicans and have success? I'm asking seriously because maybe there are other examples of this somewhere where their big spenders are cashing out spots owned by other races. Meanwhile the couple of black owned spots that do try to open up shop are closed because of regular violence or other shyt that causes them to lose their liquor license but at the white mans house we know how to act

Like I said, this isn't a dig to anyone but i see the same shyt with us in our own areas we live in. nikkas will litter and fukk up our own areas but let some blacks go live in some white areas then it's a totally different story.

How can this mentality change and what can be done about it?

You will be accused of preaching respectability politics but you are 100% right.

We need to value ourselves the same way we value others, change how we view us. Self love would do wonders for black establishment. To build businesses we can sustain and support and also live in peace amongst our own.

Being poor does not equal having no class. There def had to be a mental shift. I think it is gradually happening.

 

[Luck]

It sounds cliche, but education will be a cornerstone in uplifting the black community. Black men need to pride ourselves more in intellectual pursuits and achievements and less in hypermasculinity.

Asian-Americans have a higher median household income than any other racial group in America.. this coincides directly with their higher levels of academic achievement. Per capita they are more educated than white Americans. Their communities are essentially founded on a desire to pursue education to improve their circumstance (there are other factors involved like immigration rates, family values etc). They understand that the establishment still favors eurocentric ideals, but they've found a way to work within the system by being smarter (Some emigrate to the U.S. already having degrees of course). It's not worth it that a handful of black people achieve success in this way.. individuals don't build communities. There has to be a shift in the psyche that has plagued the black community for so long where. Hispanics and blacks have the lowest median household incomes in America and not unexpectedly are the two least educated groups. The correlation is undeniable.

Asian-Americans are the fastest growing demographic in America by the way (comparatively speaking). By 2050 they are projected to make up about 9% of the U.S. population. A population increase with that level of academic attainment.. well we don't need to spell out the implication. Just know that black people need to get It together fast.

Asians bring there best and brightest over here because it isn't an easy migration like it is with Mexicans plus they already have established bonds

We as black people already are here and are cool with accepting less...that's the attitude that needs to change so how do we do that on a grander scale

We can't follow others because the institutions in place aren't built to see them fail, they're built to see us fail

 

[TRFG]

The problem I see it is Blacks have been reduced to a "consumer class" in America for so long that has been limited to what we were allowed to own that many of us don't think twice about going to other establishments, other races that immigrate to the States come from country that while not as advanced economically, are countries where they are often used to seeing people from their group in business (though many of these countries also have dominant minority groups that are also over represented in owing businesses to be fair) to the point where it is natural for them to open up their own stores when they get here

All you're saying is AA's basically have no drive no ambition with a smile

 

[PhonZhi]

Yes we do have solutions that you, I, and all of the black conscious community have to promote. these discussions help promote the cause

Thats why i love these types of threads and the fact that you were aware in the 1st place with your observation. Most of us aren't there yet mentally where we notice things like this. Once we,on a mass scale start having the same "awareness" like you and I, then we can make strides towards making a change. We have to start small with promoting the idea of this thread. We have no choice since most blacks with the biggest platform to influence and spread a message (rappers & athletes) aren't exactly "pro-black" and could care less about the black community. You are rite, there are solutions. But its going to be an uphill battle attempting to reverse 500 years of mental conditioning. Its up to us "the black concious community" to have these convos and to spread the message whether online or in real life. You may get the from most other blacks when you bring this topic up, but if you can make 1 person go then you're making a difference in our collective mindset. As far as the N-word, do you breh. Personally its a word i find disgusting.

 

[MikelArteta]

But in this threw you see the usual suspects @Emperor_ReinScarf and people like him not adding anything fruitful to the discussion but always have some negative shyt to say

And I mention him because he is the most prominent canadien member here that I see promotes negativity but nothing positive.

Other posters do the same but I don't have their usernames memorized but feel free to either pm their names or @ them yourselves

why are you tagging me?
i could care less about clubs because I never go

30 people got shot in chicago last night and 95% were prob black

lol at promoting negativty, im out here trying to better the black race why you kewning breh

Have a great day!

 

[beenz]

The owner

Now check out their site, gallery and tell me as a black person how you feel about this

http://theshrinechicago.com/main.php

man, I was just at my boy's crib on monday, and he was talkin bout goin down there. he's a regular club goer still, but this is one of the spots he frequents

kinda sad, cuz he will be not having $100 to his name or money to get a basic repair done to his vehicle, but was already talking about getting bottle service and VIP access at the spot.

 

[Luck]

i feel what OP is saying but there are other dynamics at play here. most bars/pubs/clubs are operated by organized crime who are deep in the game and that's pretty much anywhere in North America (maybe even the world). i'm talking about the type of organized crime that has police in it's pocket. organized crime with accountants, lawyers and everything. the police will protect these establishments (up to a point). people (black as well as other races no better than to start trouble in these establishments).

if you're not organized to that level, police won't protect you. if there's too much trouble at your place and you can't control it, it becomes a nuisance to the police, the city, etc so they will try to shut you down. and yes, you being black adds to it.

I don't disagree with you but what is stopping us from doing the same???

And why aren't we promoting these types of things more

 

[Luck]

why are you tagging me?
i could care less about clubs because I never go

30 people got shot in chicago last night and 95% were prob black

lol at promoting negativty, im out here trying to better the black race why you kewning breh

Have a great day!

This sums up the c00nery buffoonery that's loose and promoted by your type

Ignore everything else in the thread and add absolutely nothing positive to the discussion as I predicted you would

 

[newworldafro]

the dude from Power did alright with his club

... Are there any real life examples of black owned clubs being frequented by non-black? Besides the Camel's 40/40 club.

 

[beenz]

I don't disagree with you but what is stopping us from doing the same???

And why aren't we promoting these types of things more

lets be honest here. a lot of businesses are capital intensive to start. and most blacks don't have the capital or access to the necessary capital to start up a business.