Just got back in from the club in Chicago....here's why nikkas are losing

[sportscribe]

Mexicans don't honor or really even eat at any Americanized Mexican food joint so...

Yes, Mexicans don't really subscribe to Tex-Mex, but it is still a restaurant with 'Mexican' in its name purporting to sell Mexican cuisine.

And I see you didn't have anything to say about P.F. Chang's so..

It's pretty naive of you to think that white people aren't behind a lot of these ethnic cuisine chains. It's about business, not cultural appropriation.

 

[Luck]

I think another lesson to learn from this is this. The fact that you have to be wiling to start something catering to a demographic other than yourself. For instance you may not eat Mexican food but if you can sell a ton of it you would go into that biz. Second example the white owner may not be into the scene at his own club but he's looking at bottom lines. Like I would want to start a club that's hype people dancing and shyt. Young people etc but you might find an older demographic will out spend those young ones. might not be my scene but business wise have to go that way.

So fortunately the club you are working at does well. So the demographic exists. We should be better at it than the white guys but there's certain things they may do better. Violence control, working with cops. Dress codes, music, decor. Prices etc. Those things determine demographics in a way people are not messing up where you work but will at lower end places

I don't work at the club breh, I do personal security.

I agree there is a lesson to be learned here, hence why I started this thread. But I disagree at white people doing anything better than we do. I think it's an ingrained subconscious sense of fear from the subtle effects of white supremacy that's prevalent in our society. That makes people think white is right and don't fukk up things owned by or ran by whites. How can we value our own more than we value swine owned establishments

 

[Luck]

Yes, Mexicans don't really subscribe to Tex-Mex, but it is still a restaurant with 'Mexican' in its name purporting to sell Mexican cuisine.

And I see you didn't have anything to say about P.F. Chang's so..

It's pretty naive of you to think that white people aren't behind a lot of these ethnic cuisine chains. It's about business, not cultural appropriation.

Asians are worse ( or better ) at avoiding Americanized Asian food joints. Asians strictly eat at Asian food joins unless they themselves have been Americanized to the point of no return

And you're completely missing the point naming food spots that a lot of different people frequent. I'm talking about a white owned establishment, with mostly white employees, that has black icons plastered all over the walls, that is getting big money from rich, middle class and lower class black people exclusively

 

[Raye82]

Yes, Mexicans don't really subscribe to Tex-Mex, but it is still a restaurant with 'Mexican' in its name purporting to sell Mexican cuisine.

And I see you didn't have anything to say about P.F. Chang's so..

It's not really the same too me either. Some similarity, but not really. Many different races go to these establishments, even more than said Mexicans or Asians. Mexicans and Asians are not the ones keeping Chipotle or P.F. Changs afloat. In @Luck 's scenario, we (blacks) are the ones keeping that business going, we are its main consumers.

 

[Yagirlcheatinonus]

Alot of that is inherited money

 

[Knuckles Red]

400 years of slavery, followed by Jim Crow got us to where we are right now psychologically as a people. Change isn't going to happen over night. As much as I hate to say it, I really do believe that the majority of black people view white people as superior. No one would ever admit it, but I think the reason we act the way that we do (the arrogance, flashiness, over sexualization) is a way of compensating and/or coping with the reality that, at least right now at this point in time, white people have won. I don't think it will stay this way, as nothing lasts forever, but the phycological damage of slavery is currently affecting us right now even still in 2015. We don't love ourselves, we don't love one another, and we continue to put whites on a pedestal. If we were as efficient at owning our culture as we were at creating it...we'd be a force to be reckoned with!!!

 

[Luck]

It's not really the same too me either. Some similarity, but not really. Many different races go to these establishments, even more than said Mexicans or Asians. Mexicans and Asians are not the ones keep Chipotle or P.F. Changs afloat. In @Luck 's scenario, we (blacks) are the ones keeping that business going, we are its main consumers.

Exactly

These spots mentioned by breh would still potentially be profitable without any Mexicans or Asians consumers

These white owned bars would be out of business by the end of the month if we stopped spending money at these spots

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

This would be an ideal solution but completely unrealistic breh.

That remains to be seen, but, in the meantime, it is the ONLY true solution. Anything else is just a band-aid. Every other Nation on this planet can see there's a problem here, but those in-power refuse to do anything about it aside from pay lip-service to it. They don't view it as a problem that they, themselves, caused, and feel no guilt or shame about it. As long as the Nation keeps running, they won't care. We need to leave and learn how to work as a community with our own people instead of with everyone else. This Nation has already shown its unwillingness to even meet us halfway. Why should they? They control everything here while we control nothing.​

 

[Luck]

That remains to be seen, but, in the meantime, it is the ONLY true solution. Anything else is just a band-aid. Every other Nation on this planet can see there's a problem here, but those in-power refuse to do anything about it aside from pay lip-service to it. They don't view it as a problem that they, themselves, caused, and feel no guilt or shame about it. As long as the Nation keeps running, they won't care. We need to leave and learn how to work as a community with our own people instead of with everyone else. This Nation has already shown its unwillingness to even meet us halfway. Why should they? They control everything here while we control nothing.​

Like I said breh, I fully agree with your ideology but as it stands in 2015 we are too ingrained in America and even if a pilgramage to Africa was even feasible on our end, they still have a lot of shyt to fix on their side of things assuming you meant Africa.

If you meant our own land or destination in America then there would have to be war and we'd lose not because of our will to fight or anything related to that, we'd lose because of c00ns who pander to cacs and mix with them and other races.

 

[-----]

P.F Chang's and Chiptole Mexican Grill are owned by white guys.

Your missing the point.

 

[LadySimone]

I think another lesson to learn from this is this. The fact that you have to be wiling to start something catering to a demographic other than yourself. For instance you may not eat Mexican food but if you can sell a ton of it you would go into that biz. Second example the white owner may not be into the scene at his own club but he's looking at bottom lines. Like I would want to start a club that's hype people dancing and shyt. Young people etc but you might find an older demographic will out spend those young ones. might not be my scene but business wise have to go that way.

So fortunately the club you are working at does well. So the demographic exists. We should be better at it than the white guys but there's certain things they may do better. Violence control, working with cops. Dress codes, music, decor. Prices etc. Those things determine demographics in a way people are not messing up where you work but will at lower end places

Do we boycott black owned shyt? If we do any black owner needs to hide his face because if our people see one of us making money you know they gone get upset about it.

 

[Luck]

The owner

Now check out their site, gallery and tell me as a black person how you feel about this

http://theshrinechicago.com/main.php

 

[ProfessionallyTrill]

400 years of slavery, followed by Jim Crow got us to where we are right now psychologically as a people. Change isn't going to happen over night. As much as I hate to say it, I really do believe that the majority of black people view white people as superior. No one would ever admit it, but I think the reason we act the way that we do (the arrogance, flashiness, over sexualization) is a way of compensating and/or coping with the reality that, at least right now at this point in time, white people have won. I don't think it will stay this way, as nothing lasts forever, but the phycological damage of slavery is currently affecting us right now even still in 2015. We don't love ourselves, we don't love one another, and we continue to put whites on a pedestal. If we were as efficient at owning our culture as we were at creating it...we'd be a force to be reckoned with!!!

Preach

 

[sportscribe]

Asians are worse ( or better ) at avoiding Americanized Asian food joints. Asians strictly eat at Asian food joins unless they themselves have been Americanized to the point of no return

And you're completely missing the point naming food spots that a lot of different people frequent. I'm talking about a white owned establishment, with mostly white employees, that has black icons plastered all over the walls, that is getting big money from rich, middle class and lower class black people exclusively

Majority of the Asian restaurants are Americanized anyway. The cuisine you find in Asian restaurants in America is usually different from what you'd find on the Asian continent.

The principle is still the same. These businessmen are still opening up culturally-themed restaurant chains with no real relationship to the culture. The owner saw that there was a need for a particular 'urban-themed' venue in the area and he opened a business in line with his target demographic. Where you can fault him is for not hiring people from within the community.

The question shouldn't be "why is this only happening in our communities?" - because it's not. The question is, why aren't there more black owners of such establishments? That's another discussion entirely, but what's clear is that black people need to value ownership more. Still, it's not the case everywhere. In Atlanta for instance, I can think of numerous black-owned clubs that cater to varying demographics. These are in mixed communities as well. Now can a black man with enough financial clout open up a similar venue in a white area? Of course he could.. it doesn't necessarily mean that it would make for best business practice.

 

[sportscribe]

It's not really the same too me either. Some similarity, but not really. Many different races go to these establishments, even more than said Mexicans or Asians. Mexicans and Asians are not the ones keeping Chipotle or P.F. Changs afloat. In @Luck 's scenario, we (blacks) are the ones keeping that business going, we are its main consumers.

That's because these establishments are in black communities. If someone (white, black or other) opens up a Mexican restaurant in a predominantly Hispanic community, the patrons by and large are going to be Hispanic.

It's ironic that OP is making this particular criticism while working for the establishment. I presume that you won't be working there again in light of this revelation?

Your missing the point.

The point was very much understood.