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Put together a competent story? This looks like a way ridiculous and worse version of the lost world as has already been mentioned and that movie sucked ass.

A dinosaur in a bedroom is the stupidest fukking visual I've ever seen
Expecting competent story from a movie like this is useless. They already did the park stuff, what else can they do?

Dino in a bedroom isn't the worst, there were dinos in cars already why not a house?
 

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:ohhh:My preconceived notions might've been off on this one

BY GAV MURPHY Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom opens with one of the most exciting set pieces of the year and from there it barely stops for breath as we’re bounced from a huge, high-stakes disaster film to a claustrophobic gothic horror.

Three years have passed since the events of Jurassic World, and the dinosaurs have been left to their own devices on Isla Nublar. To be honest, this feels like the best situation for both humans and dinosaurs given their vibrant history of not getting along. Unfortunately for the dinosaurs there’s a volcano on Nublar with different ideas and is threatening to wipe them out for good (again). Rather than take that as a sign that these creatures definitely should not exist, the humans decide to meddle once more and mount a rescue mission. From there you may think you know where the film is headed but Fallen Kingdom is all about playing with those expectations and taking you to places you wouldn’t expect.

J.A. Bayona feels like the perfect director to take control of Fallen Kingdom after proving he can handle large-scale destruction with confidence but is equally capable of delivering intimate scares. There are echoes of his previous works such as The Impossible (big old natural disaster) and The Orphanage (creepy old secret-filled house) in Fallen Kingdom but more impressive is how it draws on further inspirations like Alfred Hitchcock and Hammer horror style suspense:whoo::krs::ohlawd:. The latter is definitely felt throughout the film and Bayona’s use of light and shadows to create tension is one of the highlights of Fallen Kingdom. Whether it’s a toothy Baryonyx stalking through a tunnel lit by a menacing drop of lava or the claws of the terrifying new Indoraptor illuminated by a child’s night-light, Bayona’s horror seems classy and rarely resorts to simply jump scares.

Having massive scary dinosaurs trying to eat humans or fighting each other is always going to be brilliant and Fallen Kingdom has a lot of both. I spent most of the film either wincing in terror or laughing at the bonkers drama of an erupting volcano. The dinosaurs’ individual traits are also utilised for nice dramatic effect with the stand out being Stiggy the Stygimoloch whose solid dome head gets put to good use several times and who you end up rooting for as much as the humans by the end of the film. The same goes for series stalwart Rexy the T.rex (seriously who names these dinosaurs) who you can’t help feel a genuine bond for now having either been terrified by or watched her save the day on multiple occasions.
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If you thought there was going to be too much CGI in Fallen Kingdom, you're wrong. There's a surprising amount of practical effects on display – in fact, it's the first time I've felt genuinely disgusted by these creatures :blessed:. From the flies buzzing around Rexy’s stinking sleeping body to the mucus and phlegm we see, there’s an impressive blend of both CGI and practical effects in use that helps bring us closer to the dinosaurs. This closeness helps us either feel more afraid or in the case of Blue, a dramatic medical treatment scene really highlights the bond that Owen has with her. Practical effects and CGI are merged seamlessly here and we end up with a touching sequence that also draws in video flashbacks of Owen raising Blue which are obscenely cute.

If there’s a dinosaur on screen, that usually means something fantastic is happening in Fallen Kingdom, unfortunately the same can’t be said for the humans. Bryce Dallas Howard’s Claire and Chris Pratt’s Owen continue their infuriating relationship - she’s the boring stick-in-the-mud and he’s still the cool free spirit. They’ve broken up offscreen for barely tangible reasons other than so they can have a pointless reunion scene in Fallen Kingdom. Although it may be intentional that Owen has a more developed, believable relationship with a dinosaur than he does with Claire, it’s disappointing that the human relationships aren’t as credible as the those that exist between the humans and dinosaurs.

The supporting cast range from genuinely interesting to just baffling in their inclusion. On the former side you’ve got Daniella Pineda’s badass Zia whose reaction to seeing a dinosaur for the first time as a paleo-vet feels perfect. In the latter camp is Toby Jones’ Gunnar Eversol whose presence never really feels justified and the character himself acts like he has no interest in fulfilling the role he’s specifically been brought in to do. Rafe Spall and Ted Levine each manage to bring what could have been fairly standard characters to life with subtle and often strange inflections but I came away thinking Jones, Spall and Levine’s characters could have been better amalgamated into one superbly formed nemesis rather than three slightly disappointing ones.

In the end Jeff Goldblum and James Cromwell end up being the most unfulfilling characters. Goldblum’s return as Ian Malcolm feels like a bit of a tease while Cromwell’s Benjamin Lockwood - John Hammond’s former partner - ends up criminally underused. To be fair though, if Jeff Goldblum and James Cromwell are the most disappointing things in your film, you’re probably doing alright.

The Verdict
It’s a brave choice to literally blow up everything that’s come before but one that definitely pays off in Fallen Kingdom. While Jurassic World gave us a lovely self-contained story, Fallen Kingdom leaves us wondering just where the series will go for its third act - as long as Stiggy plays an extensive pivotal role, I’ll be absolutely fine with it.

IGN Score: 8.4 Great
 

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:ohhh:My preconceived notions might've been off on this one

BY GAV MURPHY Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom opens with one of the most exciting set pieces of the year and from there it barely stops for breath as we’re bounced from a huge, high-stakes disaster film to a claustrophobic gothic horror.

Three years have passed since the events of Jurassic World, and the dinosaurs have been left to their own devices on Isla Nublar. To be honest, this feels like the best situation for both humans and dinosaurs given their vibrant history of not getting along. Unfortunately for the dinosaurs there’s a volcano on Nublar with different ideas and is threatening to wipe them out for good (again). Rather than take that as a sign that these creatures definitely should not exist, the humans decide to meddle once more and mount a rescue mission. From there you may think you know where the film is headed but Fallen Kingdom is all about playing with those expectations and taking you to places you wouldn’t expect.

J.A. Bayona feels like the perfect director to take control of Fallen Kingdom after proving he can handle large-scale destruction with confidence but is equally capable of delivering intimate scares. There are echoes of his previous works such as The Impossible (big old natural disaster) and The Orphanage (creepy old secret-filled house) in Fallen Kingdom but more impressive is how it draws on further inspirations like Alfred Hitchcock and Hammer horror style suspense:whoo::krs::ohlawd:. The latter is definitely felt throughout the film and Bayona’s use of light and shadows to create tension is one of the highlights of Fallen Kingdom. Whether it’s a toothy Baryonyx stalking through a tunnel lit by a menacing drop of lava or the claws of the terrifying new Indoraptor illuminated by a child’s night-light, Bayona’s horror seems classy and rarely resorts to simply jump scares.

Having massive scary dinosaurs trying to eat humans or fighting each other is always going to be brilliant and Fallen Kingdom has a lot of both. I spent most of the film either wincing in terror or laughing at the bonkers drama of an erupting volcano. The dinosaurs’ individual traits are also utilised for nice dramatic effect with the stand out being Stiggy the Stygimoloch whose solid dome head gets put to good use several times and who you end up rooting for as much as the humans by the end of the film. The same goes for series stalwart Rexy the T.rex (seriously who names these dinosaurs) who you can’t help feel a genuine bond for now having either been terrified by or watched her save the day on multiple occasions.
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If you thought there was going to be too much CGI in Fallen Kingdom, you're wrong. There's a surprising amount of practical effects on display – in fact, it's the first time I've felt genuinely disgusted by these creatures :blessed:. From the flies buzzing around Rexy’s stinking sleeping body to the mucus and phlegm we see, there’s an impressive blend of both CGI and practical effects in use that helps bring us closer to the dinosaurs. This closeness helps us either feel more afraid or in the case of Blue, a dramatic medical treatment scene really highlights the bond that Owen has with her. Practical effects and CGI are merged seamlessly here and we end up with a touching sequence that also draws in video flashbacks of Owen raising Blue which are obscenely cute.

If there’s a dinosaur on screen, that usually means something fantastic is happening in Fallen Kingdom, unfortunately the same can’t be said for the humans. Bryce Dallas Howard’s Claire and Chris Pratt’s Owen continue their infuriating relationship - she’s the boring stick-in-the-mud and he’s still the cool free spirit. They’ve broken up offscreen for barely tangible reasons other than so they can have a pointless reunion scene in Fallen Kingdom. Although it may be intentional that Owen has a more developed, believable relationship with a dinosaur than he does with Claire, it’s disappointing that the human relationships aren’t as credible as the those that exist between the humans and dinosaurs.

The supporting cast range from genuinely interesting to just baffling in their inclusion. On the former side you’ve got Daniella Pineda’s badass Zia whose reaction to seeing a dinosaur for the first time as a paleo-vet feels perfect. In the latter camp is Toby Jones’ Gunnar Eversol whose presence never really feels justified and the character himself acts like he has no interest in fulfilling the role he’s specifically been brought in to do. Rafe Spall and Ted Levine each manage to bring what could have been fairly standard characters to life with subtle and often strange inflections but I came away thinking Jones, Spall and Levine’s characters could have been better amalgamated into one superbly formed nemesis rather than three slightly disappointing ones.

In the end Jeff Goldblum and James Cromwell end up being the most unfulfilling characters. Goldblum’s return as Ian Malcolm feels like a bit of a tease while Cromwell’s Benjamin Lockwood - John Hammond’s former partner - ends up criminally underused. To be fair though, if Jeff Goldblum and James Cromwell are the most disappointing things in your film, you’re probably doing alright.

The Verdict
It’s a brave choice to literally blow up everything that’s come before but one that definitely pays off in Fallen Kingdom. While Jurassic World gave us a lovely self-contained story, Fallen Kingdom leaves us wondering just where the series will go for its third act - as long as Stiggy plays an extensive pivotal role, I’ll be absolutely fine with it.

IGN Score: 8.4 Great

Word of advice breh, although I know it'll fall on deaf ears: Really pays not to have preconceived notions for movies. Also that's a review that says the movie is dope but I guarantee you there's one or more that say its wack. As after school special as this will sound, the power is yours to believe whatever you want to believe. Go planet
 

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Word of advice breh, although I know it'll fall on deaf ears: Really pays not to have preconceived notions for movies. Also that's a review that says the movie is dope but I guarantee you there's one or more that say its wack. As after school special as this will sound, the power is yours to believe whatever you want to believe. Go planet
Agreed on both fronts. Review gives me hope in the sense that Im going in expecting The Lost World 2 based off of trailers. Im more than willing to give it a fair shot because the original is one of my favorite movies of all time. I just want want justice to the original source material (RIP Crichton :mjcry:). So hearing that this director is willing to take it the route of horror has me very excited. The books are sci-fi horror :feedme:
 

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Agreed on both fronts. Review gives me hope in the sense that Im going in expecting The Lost World 2 based off of trailers. Im more than willing to give it a fair shot because the original is one of my favorite movies of all time. I just want want justice to the original source material (RIP Crichton :mjcry:). So hearing that this director is willing to take it the route of horror has me very excited. The books are sci-fi horror :feedme:

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Yeah the director of this movie directed that. Guilermo gave him a cosign and a boost. Horror is his thing so i knew when he signed on to direct, this movie would have more of a horror edge
:demonic:As a horror fanatic, this pleases me :ahh:
 

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The Lost World slander that has come up in this thread. :scusthov:
:comeon:I've stanned the fukk out of Jurassic park since it came out when I was 6 breh. Read both books by the time I was 10.

Make a case for quality with that flaming hot turd for me please:jbhmm:

And to be clear, the book The Lost World is very good. Not as good as the original book but very entertaining. Where they went with that movie was basura
 

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:comeon:I've stanned the fukk out of Jurassic park since it came out when I was 6 breh. Read both books by the time I was 10.

Make a case for quality with that flaming hot turd for me please:jbhmm:

And to be clear, the book The Lost World is very good. Not as good as the original book but very entertaining. Where they went with that movie was basura

I'll take that challenge

Lost World isn't a great flick, so I'll meet you there, but that doesn't mean it's bad either. It's a darker movie than Jurassic Park, from the look of it to the tone, so it takes a while to get used to that coming off of Jurassic Park.


It's got some pretty damn good characters in Ian, Sarah, Roland, and even Peter Ludlow. Lost World takes the themes from Jurassic Park about man's folly and greed. InGen deciding to take the idea of a park to the mainland is a great way to communicate their hubris and yes it's not as subtle as Hammond's arc in the first movie, but lost world isn't a subtle movie.

Yes, the stuff on the mainland is silly and his love of Godzilla movies comes through way too hard, but the stuff on the island, including the opening kill with the little girl, has a viscousness and edge to it that works overall. And the trailer sequence is one of the best things the man has ever done, in any movie.
 
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