Jujutsu Kaisen MANGA SPOILERS Thread

[T-K-G]

I'm glad they put sauce on Ino's abilities but talk about bad luck.

I'm expecting next episode to be Mei Mei vs. Smallpox Diety, nobara vs nitta, and maybe team Zenin pulls up on Dagon before it ends

We know Yuji bouta have a classic bathroom scrap with choso

 

[Ironman]

I'm glad they put sauce on Ino's abilities but talk about bad luck.

I'm expecting next episode to be Mei Mei vs. Smallpox Diety, nobara vs nitta, and maybe team Zenin pulls up on Dagon before it ends

We know Yuji bouta have a classic bathroom scrap with choso

This about to insanity with Megumi domain and Toji about to be a gotdamn menace

 

[T-K-G]

Gojo

Toji

Sukuna

-kun

Which one of these characters impacted this universe the most?


Toji killing Rika allowed tengen to mutate and gave brain kun the window he needed to merged with, this culling game shyt doesn't happen if this doesn't occur 10 years ago. He's the only reason the Zenin clan even exists right now (they stated this when they went to attack Maki, it was solely his decision to decide not to obliterate the family ages ago)

He also laid the blueprint of how to defeat Gojo, which leads to him getting sealed


Gojo existing is the reason cursed spirits got stronger to begin with, damn near everyone who was truly evil went outta their way to train and scheme out of fear, he basically forced them to "evolve" the same way Geto wanted humans to evolve. Him having a clan also kept other sorcerers and klans in check so characters like Yuta and Panda can exist (I didn't realize he was also protecting Yaga, didn't dawn in me until they randomly decided to go kill him)

Sukuna's existence is just so batshyt crazy you can't do anything but focus on trying to defeat him or escape him, and he's also innovating sorcery for the culture


went and CREATED nikkas over centuries forced a whole country into the sorcery world, made deals dating back thousands of years, you'd have to assume he was watching the Toji incident from another body, which made him also focus on Geto for the moment to steal his body, which ALSO gave him to ultimate mindfukk for Gojo to allow him to be sealed, set up Sukuna getting brought back (as a distraction for Gojo AND for whatever side deal they made) even to the point of creating Yuji specifically to be a vessel




Gege had so many schemes set up, the ripple effect of these nikkas decision making is crazy

 

[Thanos]

nikkas in this manga be gassed up and got no feats. Togashi come back and teach these nikkas how to write.

 

[T-K-G]

nikkas in this manga be gassed up and got no feats. Togashi come back and teach these nikkas how to write.

What the hell are you talking about breh the scale of shibuya/culling games is just as big as chimera ant arc and that's my favorite arc of all time in shounen.

 

[Thanos]

What the hell are you talking about breh the scale of shibuya/culling games is just as big as chimera ant arc and that's my favorite arc of all time in shounen

Shibuya and CG can't even shine New York's arcs shoes. The Chimera arc, even at it's worst, is better than CG.

 

[T-K-G]

The Shibuya and culling game can't even shine New York's arcs shoes.

you definitely trying to hard, came in here with the super random comparison when the two stories are written at a complete different pace. Gege is trying to FINISH this series, Togashi still tryna get these nikkas off of their little island to the Dark Continent, on chapter 400

I don't see how you even make the comparison outside of both stories having solid power structures that can't be beat by plot armor.

Jjk starting getting rid of nikkas and brought in end game villains, HxH is just barely into it's "Part 2"

We at chapter 238 in JJK and we only got 2 evil nikkas to address, planet getting sliced up.

Go to the same chapters in HxH and we seeing goofball nikkas like this

man get outta here, you just were bored today huh


you also completely forgetting that stupid ass RPG island arc he made us sit through, that whole arc was a dud

And please don't pretend togashi doesn't beat us over the head with text bubbles to set up convoluted situations some of the chapters on the boat have been ROUGH to read through. Imo this is actually his "culling games" where shyt is confusing for no reason and we get a ton of new characters out of nowhere that we don't give a fukk about.

 

[Ironman]

So is everyone caught up on the latest chapter?

Spoiler

I was too lenient giving 3 chapters this dude Kashimo got folded in 1.5

 

[LordDeathwatch]

you definitely trying to hard, came in here with the super random comparison when the two stories are written at a complete different pace. Gege is trying to FINISH this series, Togashi still tryna get these nikkas off of their little island to the Dark Continent, on chapter 400

I don't see how you even make the comparison outside of both stories having solid power structures that can't be beat by plot armor.

Jjk starting getting rid of nikkas and brought in end game villains, HxH is just barely into it's "Part 2"

We at chapter 238 in JJK and we only got 2 evil nikkas to address, planet getting sliced up.

Go to the same chapters in HxH and we seeing goofball nikkas like this

man get outta here, you just were bored today huh


you also completely forgetting that stupid ass RPG island arc he made us sit through, that whole arc was a dud

And please don't pretend togashi doesn't beat us over the head with text bubbles to set up convoluted situations some of the chapters on the boat have been ROUGH to read through. Imo this is actually his "culling games" where shyt is confusing for no reason and we get a ton of new characters out of nowhere that we don't give a fukk about.

That negro was just bored on a break and decided to post some random shyt. That Togashi shot outta nowhere.

 

[Ironman]

Gojo

Toji

Sukuna

-kun

Which one of these characters impacted this universe the most?


Toji killing Rika allowed tengen to mutate and gave brain kun the window he needed to merged with, this culling game shyt doesn't happen if this doesn't occur 10 years ago. He's the only reason the Zenin clan even exists right now (they stated this when they went to attack Maki, it was solely his decision to decide not to obliterate the family ages ago)

He also laid the blueprint of how to defeat Gojo, which leads to him getting sealed


Gojo existing is the reason cursed spirits got stronger to begin with, damn near everyone who was truly evil went outta their way to train and scheme out of fear, he basically forced them to "evolve" the same way Geto wanted humans to evolve. Him having a clan also kept other sorcerers and klans in check so characters like Yuta and Panda can exist (I didn't realize he was also protecting Yaga, didn't dawn in me until they randomly decided to go kill him)

Sukuna's existence is just so batshyt crazy you can't do anything but focus on trying to defeat him or escape him, and he's also innovating sorcery for the culture


went and CREATED nikkas over centuries forced a whole country into the sorcery world, made deals dating back thousands of years, you'd have to assume he was watching the Toji incident from another body, which made him also focus on Geto for the moment to steal his body, which ALSO gave him to ultimate mindfukk for Gojo to allow him to be sealed, set up Sukuna getting brought back (as a distraction for Gojo AND for whatever side deal they made) even to the point of creating Yuji specifically to be a vessel




Gege had so many schemes set up, the ripple effect of these nikkas decision making is crazy

Gojo in a way by 6 eyes cause Kenny was terrified of themDude was offing them as babies and looking likewhen another 6 eyes would just pop up again. It got him to scheming on Tengen and actually we still don't know fully but there's clearly a connection between Kenny,
Sukuna, and Tengen

 

[Thanos]

you definitely trying to hard, came in here with the super random comparison when the two stories are written at a complete different pace. Gege is trying to FINISH this series, Togashi still tryna get these nikkas off of their little island to the Dark Continent, on chapter 400

I don't see how you even make the comparison outside of both stories having solid power structures that can't be beat by plot armor.

Jjk starting getting rid of nikkas and brought in end game villains, HxH is just barely into it's "Part 2"

We at chapter 238 in JJK and we only got 2 evil nikkas to address, planet getting sliced up.

Go to the same chapters in HxH and we seeing goofball nikkas like this

man get outta here, you just were bored today huh


you also completely forgetting that stupid ass RPG island arc he made us sit through, that whole arc was a dud

And please don't pretend togashi doesn't beat us over the head with text bubbles to set up convoluted situations some of the chapters on the boat have been ROUGH to read through. Imo this is actually his "culling games" where shyt is confusing for no reason and we get a ton of new characters out of nowhere that we don't give a fukk about.

You talkin about Goat Island?

 

[T-K-G]

Gojo in a way by 6 eyes cause Kenny was terrified of themDude was offing them as babies and looking likewhen another 6 eyes would just pop up again. It got him to scheming on Tengen and actually we still don't know fully but there's clearly a connection between Kenny,
Sukuna, and Tengen

I feel like Gojo would be at the bottom of the list for that exact reason

He only mattered cuz of the ability he was born with, he didn't really DO anything besides exist and people had already dealt with 6 eyes/Limitless users in the past, so it was just his turn in a way, he had no choice in the matter

The rest of these nikkas did not have to do what they did at all, they just made business decisions and watched the fukkery unfold itself

 

[Ironman]

I feel like Gojo would be at the bottom of the list for that exact reason

He only mattered cuz of the ability he was born with, he didn't really DO anything besides exist and people had already dealt with 6 eyes/Limitless users in the past, so it was just his turn in a way, he had no choice in the matter

The rest of these nikkas did not have to do what they did at all, they just made business decisions and watched the fukkery unfold itself

Gojos birth is the only one that shifted balance of the jujutsu world though. His presence literally caused curses to be forced to get stronger and Sukuna in a way was a direct response to him.

 

[T-K-G]

Gojos birth is the only one that shifted balance of the jujutsu world though. His presence literally caused curses to be forced to get stronger and Sukuna in a way was a direct response to him.

How is Sukuna a response to him? He was a sorcerer originally, and was already dead and plotting his return as a curse with by the time Gojo was born. These move were in play long before him, curses being stronger may have helped out Geto since he could catch stronger spirits, but it hasn't gone any further than that imo.

The curses being stronger mattered on a small scale to low level sorcerers like the two old heads im shibuya, but outside of Sukuna who turned himself into a curse, the jujutsu world was still very much controlled by the sorcerers


And we can't say Gojo is the ONLY one that shifted the balance when Sukuna clearly has a level of jujutsu understanding not even Gojo knew about, Sukuna's just so old that no one knew how thorough he was except people from Heian era, and we haven't gotten a proper flashback from that time period to see just how deep that rabbit hole goes.

Him doing Gojo the way he did implies that his strength has/had an even bigger impact, it just hasn't been blatantly stated by a character

 

[LordDeathwatch]

How is Sukuna a response to him? He was a sorcerer originally, and was already dead and plotting his return as a curse with by the time Gojo was born. These move were in play long before him, curses being stronger may have helped out Geto since he could catch stronger spirits, but it hasn't gone any further than that imo.

The curses being stronger mattered on a small scale to low level sorcerers like the two old heads im shibuya, but outside of Sukuna who turned himself into a curse, the jujutsu world was still very much controlled by the sorcerers


And we can't say Gojo is the ONLY one that shifted the balance when Sukuna clearly has a level of jujutsu understanding not even Gojo knew about, Sukuna's just so old that no one knew how thorough he was except people from Heian era, and we haven't gotten a proper flashback from that time period to see just how deep that rabbit hole goes.

Him doing Gojo the way he did implies that his strength has/had an even bigger impact, it just hasn't been blatantly stated by a character

This is pretty much my thoughts in a nutshell, don't have the time to type it up at my desk but yeah. Gojo is a very shiny, even pivotal cog in a masterworks centuries in the making. The scale of the plans in motion dwarf just HIS impact, any one of the other Six Eyes that were snuffed out could have been gifted the same powerset and served the same role. Now they might not have been quite as capable or brilliant as Gojo but they would serve the same essential role.

Sukuna and BK are the architects of this story, irreplaceable and moving to accomplish goals we still don't understand. To take it a step further, someone with Limitless and eSix Eyes only appears every few hundred years. An Itadori only appears once every thousand years, so he's not even the most rare character in the show. It's about perspective; in this moment, in this era, Gojo is all consuming but in the big picture, he's just not on that level and that's not a knock on him at all. He's enough of a problem that BK had to remove him from the board to safely proceed to the next step and Sukuna acknowledged his strength.

Being ranked 3rd on a list of most influential figures of all time is hardly a knock, others would kill for half that.