Joy ann reid responds to her speaking on slavery and not being ados

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Because my community and I have whored our votes to Democrats at a clip of 85% for the last 50 years. Republicans don’t owe me much, but the politicians that myself, my parents and grandparents have supported owe me something other than lip service and apologies. Tangibles, legislative policy specific for ados is what we are looking for
But why haven't you and your parents voted Republican??? Because Republicans don't give a flying fukk about what you your mama are looking for. They know they don't need your vote to win, and every single policy that they've enacted has shown that.

If this was a Parliamentary government, I get it. Not voting for the majority isn't necessary. But in a first past the post election system, you have to vote with who aligns with your view the MOST. The median voter theorem is a live and well. And Trump voters proved that in 2016.
 

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There are a few ADOS who seem to think they were the only ones to endure slavery. As if Caribbean black were just chilling on the beach 24/7 drinking coconut water with the colonizers. Historical facts show the contrary. But then again some people like to question certain historical facts when it contradicts what THEY have chosen to convince themselves of and believe.

They want a monopoly on misery and hardship, as if it is something to be proud of..some people love being victims and garnering some form of sympathy or whatever..everybody went through it with cacs
 

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Thank you. You're making quite a case for why ADOS is insipid, woefully inept rubbish. Emancipation was given by Lincoln...not Jefferson Davis.

Civil rights legislation was passed by Johnson, not Goldwater.

You pressure and appeal to the side of the political spectrum that is more likely to support and enact your cause, as abolitionists did with Lincoln and civil rights activist did with Johnson. Not rocket science, my dude.



The proper question to ask here is name one major political advancement that was ever made by black folks in the country that required the cooperation of the most white supremacist side of the political spectrum, as opposed to the side more empathetic toward black human rights.

Did the Confederacy fund and enact abolition? Did the political right; the former Dixiecrats and Republicans of the 60's enact civil rights?

That's why ADOS is stupid as fukk. Yall act like Mitch McConnell and Trump rally attendees can be coaxed into enacting reparations.


Your problem is you actually think you're going to get tangible results by tacitly sucking right white fascist dikk, the LEAST sympathetic element toward reparations in the country, and saying fukk everyone else, including potentially allies, and that is astronomically idiotic.

It's the equivalent of an ultra anti-abortion group that wants to ban all abortions even in the case of rape and incest, saying the Republicans won't do it and they take their vote for granted, so they're going to court Democrats and/or not vote. In other words, it's stupid and makes not one iota of practical sense.
Thank you. You're making quite a case for why ADOS is insipid, woefully inept rubbish. Emancipation was given by Lincoln...not Jefferson Davis.

Civil rights legislation was passed by Johnson, not Goldwater.

You pressure and appeal to the side of the political spectrum that is more likely to support and enact your cause, as abolitionists did with Lincoln and civil rights activist did with Johnson. Not rocket science, my dude.



The proper question to ask here is name one major political advancement that was ever made by black folks in the country that required the cooperation of the most white supremacist side of the political spectrum, as opposed to the side more empathetic toward black human rights.

Did the Confederacy fund and enact abolition? Did the political right; the former Dixiecrats and Republicans of the 60's enact civil rights?

That's why ADOS is stupid as fukk. Yall act like Mitch McConnell and Trump rally attendees can be coaxed into enacting reparations.


Your problem is you actually think you're going to get tangible results by tacitly sucking right white fascist dikk, the LEAST sympathetic element toward reparations in the country, and saying fukk everyone else, including potentially allies, and that is astronomically idiotic.

It's the equivalent of an ultra anti-abortion group that wants to ban all abortions even in the case of rape and incest, saying the Republicans won't do it and they take their vote for granted, so they're going to court Democrats and/or not vote. In other words, it's stupid and makes not one iota of practical sense.
You sassy boy, you sassy.

You just accused a real nikka of sucking dikk. Then lied and made up a bunch of shyt I never said.

We don’t share the same values.

:camby:
 

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Call out a strawman with a strawman argument brehs

The ADOS movement does not promote xenophobia. The title is simply used to put forward a justice claim.
Sure it does. It speaks with hostility toward everyone...everyone except the Klan member cacs that fund it. Why can't you support reparations without talking about immigrants? People have made the case for reparations for decades. What is distinct and unique about ADOS is that is uses xenophobic, nativist propaganda in its messaging, and that is not necessary to make a cogent case for reparations. That's because it's a white supremacist psy-op thats intended goal has nothing to do with reparations and everything to do with electoral and court victories for white supremacists.

Tell me, how do black people who have a specific historical tie to this nation distinguish themselves as a group without the ADOS label?
That's a great question. I'd say throw the strong-faced bytch and the chubby fake lawyer in the bushes, disassociate yourself from the ADOS hashtag and start a new political movement centered around reparations and a black agenda, don't use alienating, xenophobic rhetoric and ideology and don't flirt with alt right cac movements that hate you and want to destroy you.
 

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Express how you really feel. :mjpls:
My parents werent on that. I have 3 kids that are half african american. I do more to teach them about their history than their africsn American family to the point that when my late daughter would go on pro black rants they would say “there goes that Reb shyt!:beli:

Youre corny as fukk my dude
 

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These very things directly conflict with your so called agenda. Don't tell me about a black agenda while supporting the white supremist policies that literally are wrecking havoc on black people.

Thanks for playing. Have a good night everyone


No. Fukk you Boris :pacspit:

More sassy talk


You can’t answer a simple question about what is the bedrock of the 2020 democratic policy.

Jesus Christ. It’s worse than I thought.. Y’all REALLY hate Black people.

This shyt is gonna be a blood bath at them polls.
God Bless and Good Luck.
 

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Ok so why don't you Caribbean nikkas go after that check, instead of staying on our dikk(pause) like y'all been doing?
Caricom is actually pushing for reparations for Caribbean nations.

But most of the WI posters on this site are disconnected from their families countries, Most have probably never even been to their families countries. So a lot of them are most likely not aware of this.
 

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Why aren't the Republicans being held accountable for the policies that created all these problems you dumb nukkas claim to care about? :unimpressed:

A simple question from a simpleton

And the answer is simple.

The Republican party is not asking for the black votes, black people have voted with dems a super majority
Black men 84%/ black women 94% in favor of hilary.

which was the highest of any race for dems.

Why would we continue to vote a super majority with Democrat without making demands..........that's stupid, especially since they continuously ask for our vote.


I think I dumbed it down enough.
 

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Its more it didnt happen on north american soil
Bingo! This in-fighting waters down the actual momentum behind the reparation conversation. I do feel like this is another cointelpro deal where internal struggle muddy the waters and make the whole thing appear trivial then boom, we're left with nothing. Similar to BLM and historical movements.
 

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I never said

1-“ Cut the check or I ain’t voting”

or

2- “ADOS are their own ethnic group”




So you quoted the wrong person.

ADOS is a trigger word to y’all. So let me just speak on Black American’s

Black Americans would be wise to demand a specific Black agenda from any candidate they put their support behind. Every other group does. It’s not as radical or outlandish as some of y’all are framing it.

To me the push back is bewildering..

What is your purpose for voting?
I asked you about a strategy bro. You say that ados(I'm a native black American myself) should demand a specific black agenda from any candidate that they vote for. Ok, lets say there are no candidates locally or nationally that promise specific tangibles for black Americans. Do you believe that we should sacrifice and not vote to employ the strategy of sending the dems a message?

Ok, we don't vote to send the dems a message in 2020 and they lose which empowers/strengthens trump and the republicans. Now for at least 2 more years until 2022 the republicans get to rig the system locally/nationally even more to ensure their power and make it harder for them to be voted out. You then expect the dems to promise black people reparations?

I'm only pushing back because that makes no sense whatsoever for several reasons. Not because I don't want reparations. I'd love to get a check but ados seems to be selling pipe dreams.
 

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Express how you really feel. :mjpls:

that's all this shyt is...we post evidence of african and caribbean immigrants using doors that ADOS opened last century

then when they get over here, they completely lock us out, only network with themselves, and call is AKATA.

they're pissed that we're finally starting to peep game and they're shook....
 

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that's all this shyt is...we post evidence of african and caribbean immigrants using doors that ADOS opened last century

then when they get over here, they completely lock us out, only network with themselves, and call is AKATA.

they're pissed that we're finally starting to peep game and they're shook....
:mjlol:
 
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