Jon Moxley (Dean Ambrose) tells all on Chris Jericho's podcast

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Another curious thing is that the Shield guys were the closest thing to a new "Kliq" in terms of being very close with management, having their ear and at least as a unit, being able to have as much creative control as possible.

I figured that if there would come a day that WWE started to go to shyt and the opportunity arose for a group of guys to step in and pretty much begin to shape things as they liked, it would've been Seth and Dean.

Now that Moxley is gone. I wonder who would take that chance, specially now that it seems inevitable that by November/December there's gonna be a lot of panic in WWE - TV ratings with FOX, AEW making buzz with literally anything they come up with in TNT and Mania season a couple of months away - and there's gonna be an opportunity for a a group of people to get in Vince's ear and try to "fix" things and get more involved with creative.

I know Zayn is known to be a pain in the ass because he's always trying to get involved, but I don't see Cokeboy giving a flying fukk about what he has to say no matter how much panic there might be maybe the an Owens/New Day/Seth Rollins combination?


BTW, I'm not saying that this would be necessarily good for WWE's product. But that I can see that scenario happening now and it's interesting to theorize who on the roster would try to step up.

"The Kliq" was only a thing because Vince was in a relationship with Michaels and then HHH was in a relationship with Stephanie. None of that nonsense happens today and cokeboy listens to no one but himself ultimately.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Even Vince's favorites get terrible booking and are given awful material. The corny idea of using a briefcase as a boombox was probably from Vince.

. Boom Box Brock is the most interesting he's been in years.

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

Dean worked his deal. Sasha did not. Big difference.

WWE is petty and Dean got a wife with the company.doing anything drastic would've no doubt fukked over her.

 

[Busby]

This is dead ass how Jericho subways into an ad..

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Dope ass interview.

 

[Rell84shots]

It's actually kinda weird how its presented these days ratings wise. I wouldn't call it G rated like say the 08-10 era, but more like a very sterilized and sponsor friendly version of attitude era presentation . There's more swearing and stuff these days than the early PG era at least. But it's like Vince trying to have his cake and eat it too

Sadly everything that we're pointing out is easily fixable. This isn't like WCW where there were problems from top to bottom, this is about one man needing to get with the times.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

I found this part unintentionally hilarious:

Moxley: And I think you can always grow, and always improve and learn new things. I mean, Im only 33...

Jericho: Mmhmm

M: And you're what, 48?

J: Mmhmm

M: And you're at the top of your game NOW

J: Mmhmm

M: You've totally reinvented yourself

J: Right

 

[Francis White]

Another curious thing is that the Shield guys were the closest thing to a new "Kliq" in terms of being very close with management, having their ear and at least as a unit, being able to have as much creative control as possible.

I figured that if there would come a day that WWE started to go to shyt and the opportunity arose for a group of guys to step in and pretty much begin to shape things as they liked, it would've been Seth and Dean.

Now that Moxley is gone. I wonder who would take that chance, specially now that it seems inevitable that by November/December there's gonna be a lot of panic in WWE - TV ratings with FOX, AEW making buzz with literally anything they come up with in TNT and Mania season a couple of months away - and there's gonna be an opportunity for a a group of people to get in Vince's ear and try to "fix" things and get more involved with creative.

I know Zayn is known to be a pain in the ass because he's always trying to get involved, but I don't see Cokeboy giving a flying fukk about what he has to say no matter how much panic there might be maybe the an Owens/New Day/Seth Rollins combination?


BTW, I'm not saying that this would be necessarily good for WWE's product. But that I can see that scenario happening now and it's interesting to theorize who on the roster would try to step up.

These bums are no way a KLIQ like group. Roman is a robot who does what he is told. Dean and Seth are talented but don’t have the stroke.
HBK and Nash and Hall were superstars who knew the business and were pure alpha . They didn’t listen to Vince , Vince listened to them.

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

Anyone tried that Omaha steaks deal before?

 

[Rell Lauren]

anyone who followed Dean's heel turn knew exactly what lead to his breaking point
he turned heel on seth the night Roman announced he has cancer

he should've been the biggest peace of shyt heel since prime Vince vs Stone Cold
instead they had him turn into a complete joke wearing gas masks, getting cheap heat shytting on fans and doctor visits

as Dean mentioned and as was mentioned on a recent roundtable on the corner podcast featuring Kaz a former writer...everything is written for and finalized by an audience of one

Vince is the that loves goofy shyt, love white blondes, thinks every black wrestler should be a thug, hip-hop act, physical speciman or some other sterotype (and nothing more), believes that his family on tv is whats best for business, disinterested in tag team wrestling...the list goes on and on

He has none of the charisma to be Stone Cold. We really have to stop overrating Ambrose. He was by far the weakest member of the Shield. Austin wasn't a good wrestler post pile-driver, but his personality put him over the top.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Bolded is why you can't have nikkas out there going off the dome...you don't get a re-do. So I understand why WWE wants it scripted as much as possible.

You are right some ppl don't need that... but some do. Like I said I think the process WWE uses now is wrong, but I do think the idea of having scripts and letting the writer and wrestler work on it together is a good idea.

They need to find a balance tho. Being so scripted hurts the product and the wrestlers. That’s all I’m saying. Their current method ain’t it.

 

[stro]

This is dead ass how Jericho subways into an ad..

The word is segue, not subway.

 

[Fenian]

Wrestling is not a movie. Its a completely different artform that relies heavily on live performance and improvisation, and it always has. The more recent WWE insistence on fully scripted promos has NEVER made sense. Plus they're not even well written and most of the talent dont have the chops to recite them believeably, PLUS they have like zero time to prepare before they'ee handed some bullshyt.

The lackluster result of all of these problems is what we witness week to week.

Aye even in pantomime, which is generally much more scripted than wrestling the actors have some room for improv and to work off the audience.

You can’t keep things so rigid on a live show that relies on crowd participation, the environment doesn’t really allow it.

 

[MartyMcFly]

The word is segue, not subway.

You don’t know. Jericho make hop a train to get to those advertisements

 

[mrken12]

. Boom Box Brock is the most interesting he's been in years.

It's really not.