Jokic is really about to be a 3peat MVP

[Ya Sinning Mane]

it’s a shame if embid don’t get a mvp cuz of this dude.
Jokic earn his shyt but I want brother Embid to get one
It’s bout time

 

[ECA]

Giannis 54percent field goal percentage is only one percent off from his second MVP season. Just wanted to mention that him being "terribly inefficient" is way overblown

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Giannis 54percent field goal percentage is only one percent off from his second MVP season. Just wanted to mention that him being "terribly inefficient" is way overblown

I said terribly inconsistent, not terribly inefficient. Westbrook is someone who's terribly inefficient.

FG% isn't the best way to measure efficiency.

As I need to keep reiterating:

Over the first third of the season -

Shooting 25% on all shots (besides at the rim) - this can't be emphasized enough
54 eFG% - his lowest since 2017 (to put into perspective Jokic has a 66 eFG%)
58 TS% - his lowest since 2016 (to put into perspective Jokic has a 70 TS%)
65 FT% - second-lowest of his career
40 percentile for halfcourt scoring.

During his two MVP seasons he had a 60 eFG% and 59 eFG%, respectfully, so you can see just how inefficient he's been for most of this season. By his own standards and in comparison to Jokic and Embiid, he's not having as great of a year.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Stat geeks like yourself can only judge value and worth in numbers and awards. A healthy MPJ is more talented and more equipped to be the best player on the Nuggets.

MPJ would be the most talented player on the floor, with the skill set and athleticism to take over games when necessary.

They told me I was crazy when I said MPJ the best player on the team.

I see you’ve been running from that MPJ smoke. Remember when you said I was crazy for saying he was the best talent on the team? “But but but Jokic!”

 

[Illin Degenerate]

its going to take some extreme voter fatigue for him to lose. he leads his team or is second in every category except 3 pt shooting. top 20 in the league in ppg and steals, no.3 in rebounds and assists per game, top 6 in every shooting percentage except 3 pt pct. hes missed less games than embiid or giannis and in those games missed amongst the 3 his teams record is worse than theirs. that shows his impact but to me the bigger point is how many wins you contributed to by playing.

it once would have sounded insane for two guys averaging 30+/10+ to be serious underdogs but jokic has contributed to more wins, he leads the league in every advanced stat, and his on/off rating is currently better than curry's during his unanimous mvp season.

 

[seraphx]

I'mma be honest and say I don't like that nikka and want somebody else to win. His game isn't visually appealing to me at all.

 

[Braman]

The last person to get 3 in a row was Bird it’s not a coincidence, all of a sudden offensive contribution is the only thing that matters in whos the more valuable player, and apparently being without your 2nd best player for the majority of the season while still maintaining a better record than the leading MVP candidate doesn’t matter either.

Jokic has had a great year but him being so ahead of Giannis in those media votes it’s more than just about basketball.

It’s about survival. Jokic represents the analytics guy’s basketball livelihood. He represents the nerdy unathletic white guy who can look and say ‘see, they’ve been doing this wrong all along ‘. To them Jokic is James Naismith’s REAL vision for the game. Occasionally it can even be a black player that can fill this void—-Ie Bill Simmons choosing herb Jones over Jalen green—-but it’s for them when it’s a European or white player

Rings won’t even matter to them. Imagine in 20 years a ringless 4-time MVP Jokic is considered superior to Giannis with 2 chips but only 2 MVPs. Why, bc Jokic’s LMNOP is off the charts

 

[Hey_zeus]

Joker just needs to win in June. Otherwise this is Nash 2.0.

 

[Braman]

Giannis is averaging 32/12/5 on almost 65% shooting, while playing all-nba first team caliber defense and leading his snakebitten team to 1 game back behind the best team in basketball and the second best winning % across the league. Him not being the clear frontrunner is criminal; it's actually insane how his defense, his team record, AND the fact that his "star" teammates have been out with injury are ALL being ignored or somehow held against him in favor of... what?? Jokic's VORP??? . If the voting ended today and his name was "Gregory Antecic" he'd be the 2nd unanimous MVP ever behind Curry with a season like this....

 

[Braman]

Joker just needs to win in June. Otherwise this is Nash 2.0.

This would be even worse. Back then there were no high level candidates. LA was in flux so—- contrary to what Kobe fans say—- it didn’t make sense for kobe to win.

Plus the suns at least got to the conference finals

Here, all the other stars are winning and warrant MVPs. And the nuggets are long shots to get to the WCF imo. Hell they might mess around see GS and be out in round 1

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

It's painfully obvious who's actually watching games, and who's making up narratives for their keyboard militant comic books.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

It's hilarious how some of you keep trying to draw reference to this VORP/analytics shyt, and not realize the main talking point about Jokic's season is that he's averaging a triple double.

You know, the box score stats that y'all Casuals swear by. Nearly every single MVP discussion in the media is about him averaging 25, 11 and 10.

But y'all keep on fighting your analytics strawmen that are barely even being mentioned.

 

[Shadow King]

Only 27. He might end up with 4-5

LeBron was 28 when he won his last one. That's nowhere near set.

 

[Shadow King]

This is why last years MVP was such a huge mistake and a travesty. 2 out of 3 MVPs is one thing but 3 straight skews history. That’s reserved for THE clear dominant player of his generation and he CLEARLY isnt.

And yea it’s a regular season award but players who win MVPs at that rate/volume almost always win a chip and really it’s usually multiple. Bird, Magic, Jordan, bron, Steph.

When we look back at this timeframe and Steph got a ring, Giannis got a ring, KD got a ring(s), but Jokic won all the MVPs?? it’s not gonna make sense

It will make plenty of sense. Better teams. MVP =/= Finals MVP.

And KD didn't win a ring in any year Jokic has earned an MVP trophy, unless you're penciling in this year which isn't smart to do.

 

[Shadow King]

The narrative last year is he carried them and deserved it for getting them to a 6th seed. Now obviously Jrue is better than anybody on that team that he played with last year. But why isn’t that narrative going strong for Giannis as he’s been carrying the bucks without Middleton. That’s what people are calling out. You know better than this dawg. People are complaining about every year the media sets a narrative that lines up Jokic as the favorite.

Being the 1 seed matters now but it didn’t for Joel two years ago. Now carrying a roster isn’t good enough for Giannis but it was the qualification to win MVP last year. No matter where the media moves the criteria Jokic fits.

This year's Bucks w/o Middleton is clearly better than last year's Nuggets and it isn't just down to Jrue.