Yeah, it will make sense for people that have a functioning brain. It's a regular season award and is awarded season by season.
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Jokic is really about to be a 3peat MVP
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Yeah, it will make sense for people that have a functioning brain. It's a regular season award and is awarded season by season.
Awful posting.
the "standard" changes to vote whoever they want for MVP. Its always changing.
before Westbrook won you had to be above a 3 seed.
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If most voters believe one player is SLIGHTLY more deserving of MVP, they will obviously be far ahead in the voting. It doesn't mean the gap is huge, but that most believe one is slightly ahead of the other by a clear margin.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
This is not a good enough excuse to do that. Y'all can't keep letting shyt that has nothing to do with the award affect the purpose of it. It's like when people think Derrick Rose should be a hall of famer because everyone else who has won it go to go. There's a first time for everything. That's why outliers exist. Also, it would look really bad if you don't give him the award because of irrelevant shyt like the playoffs only to give it to someone else who doesn't win there either. It's all people tryna manufacture legacies and that shyt makes basketball conversations a chore.
MVP talk when it comes to football is bad, but basketball is especially the worst. It's MVP for that season, not heavyweight champion of the world, which is what fans want it to be.
Well, first of all, stop pretending like what Giannis is doing this season has anything to do with what y'all were saying about Jokic not deserving to win MVP last season.
Again, I must reiterate -
Last season Jokic played in more wins than Embiid and Giannis did, without his #2 and #3 options all season.
Middleton has played in 17 games this season (30% of the games up to this point), so let's not act like he's only played a few games, which funnily enough, have coincided with taking pressure off Giannis and allowing him to be more consistent. If Middleton continues to play for the rest of the season, he would've ended up playing in nearly 50% of the games. Jamal Murray missed the entire season; MPJ played 9 games with a fukked back. It's not comparable. And Middleton is only one player - Giannis still has had Jrue and Brook (who's been a DPOY frontrunner). The situation would only be similar if Middleton and Jrue didn't play the entire season and Giannis still ended up playing in more wins than Jokic and a healthy Nuggets did.
Furthermore, as you'll see in my post above, Giannis has been probably as inconsistent as he's ever been since rising to stardom, whereas Jokic was consistent the whole year last season.
You know better than this than to come with these weak ass arguments that are easily debunked.
How the fukk are you going to say the media sets up a narrative for Jokic as favorite when he's never been the favorite coming into the last three seasons? In fact, the media only started paying attention to how dominant he was from about late December-January in his last two MVP seasons. Luka is the one who's had a narrative set up for him the last three years and failed to capitalize on it. You're fooling yourself if you think the media is trying to gift-wrap MVPs to one of the least marketable stars, who plays in Denver. The media doesn't even pay attention to the Nuggets like that.
Embiid only played 51 games in 2021, whereas Jokic played every single game. You know cotdamn well Embiid not playing enough games was one of the major reasons he didn't win. If he did end up winning it would've been the least amount of games* a player has won MVP since Bill Walton in 1978. If you're the #1 seed you've got to play enough games to win MVP, simply being on the #1 seed isn't enough on its own. You know this.
Stop throwing up these shots that I can swat into the 7th row with my eyes closed.
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that wayI know ‘ this is the smart mans award’ dog whistles when I see em. Lemme guess according to his TFG and VOIP Jokic is actually the 2nd best player of all time and anyone with a brain can tell
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He deserved it last year. Giannis should have won in 2021 as he proved in the finals. But but but voter fatigue gave the award to Jokic
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
Warren Peace
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good to see embarassing your mvp competition in a head to head only works if jokic beats embiid and not the other way around.
Why should have Giannis won in 2021 when he played in less wins than Jokic did?
If you have a closer look at the MVP discussions this season amongst the media, voter fatigue has constantly been brought up in argument against Jokic (particularly during the first third of the year), it's just that Jokic's season has been historically great to the point where it's drowned all that out, at the moment. If he comes back down to Earth after the AS break and/or other candidates start making some noise, I bet you that voter fatigue talking point will appear again.
The only way Jokic can stave that off is playing at this level and with the Nuggets holding onto the #1 seed.
Folks will continue to ignore this post and keep parroting about how great Giannis has been this season as reason for why he deserves MVP -
Up until this point of the season, it's been a battle between Jokic and Embiid (with Tatum in the vicinity), and anyone that says any different hasn't been paying close enough attention. Too much box score watching and throwing agendas at the wall instead of watching games.
Which is funny because when this thread was made and in the weeks following, Giannis was barely even mentioned as a candidate this year. It was all about Embiid, now y'all have ditched that ship and hopped onto another.
Up until this point of the season, it's been a battle between Jokic and Embiid (with Tatum in the vicinity), and anyone that says any different hasn't been paying close enough attention. Too much box score watching and throwing agendas at the wall instead of watching games.
Which is funny because when this thread was made and in the weeks following, Giannis was barely even mentioned as a candidate this year. It was all about Embiid, now y'all have ditched that ship and hopped onto another.
Giannis is averaging 32/12/5 on almost 65% shooting, while playing all-nba first team caliber defense and leading his snakebitten team to 1 game back behind the best team in basketball and the second best winning % across the league. Him not being the clear frontrunner is criminal; it's actually insane how his defense, his team record, AND the fact that his "star" teammates have been out with injury are ALL being ignored or somehow held against him in favor of... what?? Jokic's VORP??? 
. If the voting ended today and his name was "Gregory Antecic" he'd be the 2nd unanimous MVP ever behind Curry with a season like this.... 
. If the voting ended today and his name was "Gregory Antecic" he'd be the 2nd unanimous MVP ever behind Curry with a season like this.... Blatantly make up stats to push your Casual babble, brehs.Giannis is averaging 32/12/5 on almost 65% shooting, while playing all-nba first team caliber defense and leading his snakebitten team to 1 game back behind the best team in basketball and the second best winning % across the league. Him not being the clear frontrunner is criminal; it's actually insane how his defense, his team record, AND the fact that his "star" teammates have been out with injury are ALL being ignored or somehow held against him in favor of... what?? Jokic's VORP???
You can tell who's actually watching games, and who's merely looking at box scores and narratives they picked up from Twitter.
firemanBk
The Manslayer
Embiid needs to have more games like he had against Jokic & the Nuggets where Philly dominated
It's a real narrative award and if he keeps having big games like that against the best teams and players, it will be hard to not give it to him.
Luka is completely out though. I think them getting Kyrie actually fukked up any chance he had of an MVP this year cause the whole narrative there is "oh this team is trash without him" which was true they were but now they have another HoF player alongside him still in his prime so that narrative is dead
It's a real narrative award and if he keeps having big games like that against the best teams and players, it will be hard to not give it to him.
Luka is completely out though. I think them getting Kyrie actually fukked up any chance he had of an MVP this year cause the whole narrative there is "oh this team is trash without him" which was true they were but now they have another HoF player alongside him still in his prime so that narrative is dead
- Brook is defending more shots than any player this season (22 per game), and is a DPOY frontrunner
- Jrue is guarding the best perimeter player every night (he's been #1 in matchup difficulty for most of the season), controlling the PnR defense and their vocal leader on that end
- Allen is ranked near the top for defensive possession matchups
- Carter is ranked near the top for defense matchup difficulty.
Anyone that tries to peddle this nonsense about how impactful Giannis has been on defense this season, as if doesn't have all these players handling the main defensive reps and responsibilities, doesn't know what the fukk they're talking about. He's either been defending the weakest offensive player or just floating around on defense as a free-safety.
He's actually having one of his least impactful defensive seasons, mainly because of how much energy he's exerting on offense.
- Jrue is guarding the best perimeter player every night (he's been #1 in matchup difficulty for most of the season), controlling the PnR defense and their vocal leader on that end
- Allen is ranked near the top for defensive possession matchups
- Carter is ranked near the top for defense matchup difficulty.
Anyone that tries to peddle this nonsense about how impactful Giannis has been on defense this season, as if doesn't have all these players handling the main defensive reps and responsibilities, doesn't know what the fukk they're talking about. He's either been defending the weakest offensive player or just floating around on defense as a free-safety.
He's actually having one of his least impactful defensive seasons, mainly because of how much energy he's exerting on offense.