Joe Montana calls Marino the BOAT qb

[premier58]

How many of those guys that played at the same threw 120 TD at the same time? In the 80s throwing TDs like that was more noteworthy than throwing picks like that.

The 80s and 90s were virtually.the same in passing numbers. All the guys aside from Elway, were all 2 to 1 guys in their pinnacle seasons..some where even 3 to 1.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Lets go throw for throw

Ok. Compare the throws in Marino 48 TD season to Brady’s 50

Lets laugh at the difference in arm talent

 

[staticshock]

He had jimmy johnson tryna have a run game a defense lmaoo.. I think this is just based on pure talent.. If he played today its kinda like how they say Larry Bird/Reggie Miller having green light like a Curry in todays climate and understanding of sport it would be different. You cant really look at past stats and compare.. You watch the games and it looks like a completely different sport.. Marino was before his time..

Pure talent Marino & Aaron Rodgers gotta be top 3

 

[threattonature]

Let’s look at the playoff failures. You’re playing against better teams.

In Dan Marino‘s entire playoff history not a single running back rushed for 100 yards in a game. his teams were are about as one dimensional as possible offensively.

He didn’t hold the Dolphins back

How could they run for a 100+ when Dolphins were throwing so much? Look at his attempts in his playoff losses 25, 50, 48, 49, 45, 38, 64, 43, 37, 25 (62-7 blowout). You can't sit there and hype up his huge numbers and then turn around and complain about lack of 100+ yard rushers when the former is the cause for the latter. Plus using the 100+ isn't fair in that a lot of years the Dolphins were doing running back by committee.

And hell looking at the year they made a run to the Super Bowl 134 rushing yards, 143 rushing yards. They get to the Super Bowl and only attempt to rush the ball 8 times.

That got me looking back through their playoff logs and it seemed the more they ran the ball the more successful they were in the playoffs. In most of their playoff losses they attempted to run the ball less than 15 times for the entire game. In most of their wins as a team they had way more rushing attempts (which I know when having a lead you'll run more). The problem wasn't a lack of rushing game but more the insistence of forcing the ball in Marino's hands.

 

[NYC Rebel]

How could they run for a 100+ when Dolphins were throwing so much? Look at his attempts in his playoff losses 25, 50, 48, 49, 45, 38, 64, 43, 37, 25 (62-7 blowout). You can't sit there and hype up his huge numbers and then turn around and complain about lack of 100+ yard rushers when the former is the cause for the latter. Plus using the 100+ isn't fair in that a lot of years the Dolphins were doing running back by committee.

And hell looking at the year they made a run to the Super Bowl 134 rushing yards, 143 rushing yards. They get to the Super Bowl and only attempt to rush the ball 8 times.

That got me looking back through their playoff logs and it seemed the more they ran the ball the more successful they were in the playoffs. In most of their playoff losses they attempted to run the ball less than 15 times for the entire game. In most of their wins as a team they had way more rushing attempts (which I know when having a lead you'll run more). The problem wasn't a lack of rushing game but more the insistence of forcing the ball in Marino's hands.

They didn’t have the talent at running back to run for 100 yards.

For you to sit there, and say fumbling Sammy Smith and all of those other obscure dolphin, running backs, were being held back because they forced the ball in Marinos hand is garbage.

They didn’t have talent.

Second… Even if you said is true about forcing the ball into Marino’s hands… A playoff defense would know that going into each game. A defense would know the Fosh are one dimensional going into each game. How’s that Dan Marino’s fault that the Dolphins coaching staff are that stupid?

 

[premier58]

I’m talking 78-79 season

You mentioned the Charger Oiler playoff game that was in January of 1979 but it was the 1978 season

In that game there was no Earl Campbell or Kellen Winslow

No James Brooks either

You are wrong again!! The 79 Chargers lost to the Oilers in the Divisional playoffs..why are you mentioning 78? NFL teams are classified by the season in which the year started..no one calls the 85 Bears, the 86 Bears because of when the playoffs and Superbowl was played. The 79 Chargers played the Oilers in the playoffs that extended.into.the year 1980. Winslow was thsre, so was Jefferson, so was Joiner and so was the 2nd ranked scoring defense..

 

[Joe Sixpack]

How could they run for a 100+ when Dolphins were throwing so much? Look at his attempts in his playoff losses 25, 50, 48, 49, 45, 38, 64, 43, 37, 25 (62-7 blowout). You can't sit there and hype up his huge numbers and then turn around and complain about lack of 100+ yard rushers when the former is the cause for the latter. Plus using the 100+ isn't fair in that a lot of years the Dolphins were doing running back by committee.

And hell looking at the year they made a run to the Super Bowl 134 rushing yards, 143 rushing yards. They get to the Super Bowl and only attempt to rush the ball 8 times.

That got me looking back through their playoff logs and it seemed the more they ran the ball the more successful they were in the playoffs. In most of their playoff losses they attempted to run the ball less than 15 times for the entire game. In most of their wins as a team they had way more rushing attempts (which I know when having a lead you'll run more). The problem wasn't a lack of rushing game but more the insistence of forcing the ball in Marino's hands.

That was Don Shula

I think after that insane season in 1984 he thought Marino could do anything

He blew almost all of the drafts after Marino got there

John Bosa?

Eric Kumerow?

 

[Joe Sixpack]

You are wrong again!! The 79 Chargers lost to the Oilers in the Divisional playoffs..why are you mentioning 78? NFL teams are classified by the season in which the year started..no one calls the 85 Bears, the 86 Bears because of when the playoffs and Superbowl was played. The 79 Chargers played the Oilers in the playoffs that extended.into.the year 1980. Winslow was thsre, so was Jefferson, so was Joiner and so was the 2nd ranked scoring defense..

Ok my fault it was 40 years ago nikka

Either way the Chargers offense didn’t have all the pieces in my opinion

That offense becomes truly unstoppable with a game changing RB

 

[premier58]

Ok. Compare the throws in Marino 48 TD season to Brady’s 50

Lets laugh at the difference in arm talent

This is.one year..this is a joke..lets.do as many throws as possible. I guarantee you Brady will win..youre bias, im the real deal. I will respect where its due, you wont.and never really.have.

 

[NYC Rebel]

This is.one year..t

This is arm talent versus arm talent. You have a problem with accepting that Dan Marino had more arm talent than Tom Brady. you have a problem with anyone saying that.

That’s a you issue.

Most people with a pair of football, assessing eyes knows Marino has more arm talent than Tom Brady.

That bothers you

 

[premier58]

Ok my fault it was 40 years ago nikka

Either way the Chargers offense didn’t have all the pieces in my opinion

That offense becomes truly unstoppable with a game changing RB

Dont play that shyt now, you literally said they didnt have Winslow(false), and their defense sucked(ranked 2nd). Its all good, though..no harm, no foul.

 

[Copy Ninja]

Based on one year, his second? Dude peaked in 88.

You think he's considered by many to be one of the GOAT QBs based on 1 year?

 

[premier58]

This is arm talent versus arm talent. You have a problem with accepting that Dan Marino had more arm talent than Tom Brady. you have a problem with anyone saying that.

That’s a you issue.

Most people with a pair of football, assessing eyes knows Marino has more arm talent than Tom Brady.

That bothers you

Arm talent ials based on throws. I havent watched it yet, kind of multitasking right now..its not atm talent vs arm talent..there is no guarantee that your td throw is your best thrown..you can throw darts all drive, then throws a playaction pass to a wide open te in the endzone to finish it off.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Not for accolades, but in QB ability and skills, Marino was always the GOAT in that regards. Plus Montana trying to be slick and put Brady down.

Game on the line, who do you want as your QB? The dude w/ perfect scores on the skills tests? Or the dude that won 7 SBs?

 

[FTBS]

The 80s and 90s were virtually.the same in passing numbers. All the guys aside from Elway, were all 2 to 1 guys in their pinnacle seasons..some where even 3 to 1.

And none of them did that with 120 TDs like Marino did. So of course he is gonna have more picks in that era. There were only 3 40 TD seasond prior to 2000 and Marino had 2 of them. His numbers when he retired were head and shoulders. I aint saying he is GOAT (altough way more folks were saying that in the 90s even without a ring) or perfect. My only point is but you cant look at his numbers like you would look at more modern numbers. Damn near 50 TDs in 1984 is like 70 TD today. If somebody threw 70 TD nobody would trip about them being tied fot 7th in picks.