Based on one year, his second? Dude peaked in 88.If Marino were to play today with today's rules, he's breaking all sorts of records
Joe Montana calls Marino the BOAT qb
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Aikman should be rodgers
Lamar Jackson is probably the best runner in NFL history, but if you are saying arms and legs then Vick/Cunningham is fine as an answer.
I'm curious how well Mahomes deep ball film compares to Favre at this point. He'd need another receiver tho to have an argument since I'm sure almost all of them are to reek.
I’m talking 78-79 season
You mentioned the Charger Oiler playoff game that was in January of 1979 but it was the 1978 season
In that game there was no Earl Campbell or Kellen Winslow
No James Brooks either
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Let’s look at the playoff failures. You’re playing against better teams.
In Dan Marino‘s entire playoff history not a single running back rushed for 100 yards in a game. his teams were are about as one dimensional as possible offensively.
He didn’t hold the Dolphins back
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Don't get me wrong, Marino is an all-time great. He just came up short too many times in the playoffs for me to have him at that top spot. HIs decision making wasn't always the best.
His stats in his playoff losses:
- His 63.1 passer rating would have ranked 24th in the league in 1983 (rookie season) and 33rd in the league in 1999 (final season)
- Threw 2 or more interceptions in 90% of his losses
- Under 50% completion percentage in 50% losses
- Under 70 passer rating in 70% losses
- Once Don Shula retired, the Dolphins averaged 11.4 ppg under Marino in the playoffs
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Again…… I don’t care about other sports, but in a sport like football, you cannot be successful all season being one dimensional and expect it to work in the playoffs.
NFL football doesn’t work that way… And that is the way the fish went into the playoffs during Dan Marino‘s entire tenure.
20 ints wasnt acceptable in 80s, either. The 70s, yeah, definitely the 60s..MVP QBs were not throwing 20 ints in the 80s..Because you are viewing it through 2023 eyes. Just 20 years ago having a career 2:1 td/int ratio was a big deal. Now everybody shyts all over that. 40 tds and 5 picks wasnt happening back then. When you can hit the QB and WR, nikkas will throw picks.
Anderson nope
Fouts strike yr, not on pace, though
Theismann no
Marino no.
Elway no
Esiason no
Montana no
Montana no
Young no
Young no
Favre no
Favre no
Warner no
Go back and look at the Dolphins drafts after he became the starter
But its Ok for him to get all the credit when he has great games, though??
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Dan Marino gets credit for having great regular season games and a great career. I don’t get what you are arguing because no one is talking about some outstanding playoff run that he’s getting credit for.
And yes… Dan Marino can make every throw Tom Brady can make but Tom Brady cannot make every throw Dan Marino could make
I generally respect what youre saying and I alwats take up for the old school..28/14 vs MVP level just as a recent as 2008. But 20 ints wasnt acceptable in the 80s.or even the 90s. See how Brett Favre used to get ripped for them and Peyton Manning got his coach fired for throwing 23 ints.Because you are viewing it through 2023 eyes. Just 20 years ago having a career 2:1 td/int ratio was a big deal. Now everybody shyts all over that. 40 tds and 5 picks wasnt happening back then. When you can hit the QB and WR, nikkas will throw picks
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
I watch the Yankees for the past 10 years get exposed in the playoffs because they are a one dimensional home run hitting team which goes against them when they get in the playoffs facing better pitching and need to move players from station to station.
When you are built one dimensionally in sports, you get exposed versus better teams. That was Dan Marino and the dolphins during his tenure.
When you are built one dimensionally in sports, you get exposed versus better teams. That was Dan Marino and the dolphins during his tenure.
How many of those guys that played at the same threw 120 TD at the same time? In the 80s throwing TDs like that was more noteworthy than throwing picks like that.
Lets go throw for throw and stop repeating some bullshyt talking head point..because you know perception is powerful, lets dig into reality. I guarsntee you wont, though. The record for most pts scored in a three year span, 2010-2012 Patriots. Brady led the league in yards 4 times and td 5 times..you think he wasnt making an assortments of phenomenal throws? You dont think NFL players and commentators and coaches watch film? So Monte Kiffin said some of those throws, that quarterback is unbelievable. Bill Polian he routinely make throws where you wonder how he made them. Joe Theissmann called him a hybrid of Warren Moon and Dan Marino in 2004. Brady had not peaked statistically yet, so he had to be talking about his catalogue of throws and physical capability. I bet Matt Staffords best throws put Marinos to shame, also..ive seen those cornee routes to Clayton and Fryar. Ive seen the go balls down the sideline to Mark Duper..ive seen the fades to Oronde Gadsden..show me something. Im ready whenever you are..
