Wasnt referring to Cincinatti. I know about the Icebox game..i am talking about vs the Houston Oilers.They just played in overtime in hot ass Miami where Kellen Winslow had to be carried off the field and the next week had to go to Cincinnati and play the AFC Championship in 50 degree below zero weather
And they had no defense
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Not tsThey just played in overtime in hot ass Miami where Kellen Winslow had to be carried off the field and the next week had to go to Cincinnati and play the AFC Championship in 50 degree below zero weather
And they had no defense
I study NFL history, fam..you think I would hold the Freezer Bowl against Fouts? Kellen Winslow and several others have frostbite from that game..They just played in overtime in hot ass Miami where Kellen Winslow had to be carried off the field and the next week had to go to Cincinnati and play the AFC Championship in 50 degree below zero weather
And they had no defense
Yeah well it’s football shyt happens
The Chargers had no defense and the Oilers had Earl Campbell
The Oilers were very good back then but the Steelers were in their way
Edit: No Earl Campbell the Oilers had Rob Carpenter
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If Marino were to play today with today's rules, he's breaking all sorts of records 
Sure. Sports advance or change over time.
Does that mean we downgrade Willie Mays because he doesn't face the challenges that Ronald Acuna faces?
Athletes today have certain difficulties but they're also awarded certain benefits.
There are a lot of things Montana or Marino could take advantage of today that wasn't available to them in 1987 or whatever.
Why are you excusing away 5 ints? Dude had Jefferson, Joiner and Winslow and threw 5 ints. Before they got rid of Fred Dean, that had a respectable defense. Not winning when your QB throws 5 interceptions, though..
I think as time goes on and we value QBs with legs the qualifier for most talented QB is changing.
There's different attributes now. In terms of the type of QB marino was it really has to be a toss up between him and rodgers, because their best attributes was pass accuracy. As pure throwers though, to me it's Rodgers.
There's different attributes now. In terms of the type of QB marino was it really has to be a toss up between him and rodgers, because their best attributes was pass accuracy. As pure throwers though, to me it's Rodgers.
They didn’t play well they weren’t good enough to win it all
Fred Dean was nice but the defense wasn’t good enough
Him and Louie Kelcher and maybe Gary Big Hands Johnson but that was it
They were still an incredible offense but they weren’t complete either
They didn’t have all the pieces they didn‘t have a great RB in 1979 and they didn’t have Kellen Winslow yet
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In 16 games.
That reflects the percentage increase Marino had in those two areas from the previous records that he broke.
Thats what made 84 incredible
That was my point plain and simple. To do what Dan Marino did in 1984, a qb would now have to pass for 5741 yards and 74 tds.
In 16 games.
That reflects the percentage increase Marino had in those two areas from the previous records that he broke.
Thats what made 84 incredible
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There is so much more to playing QB though than arm talent. Ability to read defenses, decision making, ability to manipulate defenses and create openings amongst other things. Marino had a crazy combination of a quick release, arm strength, and accuracy but even with all that doesn't necessarily make him the GOAT QB. We saw with Brett Favre his bad decision making do him in way too often.You didn’t watch him
As a pure passer he was just electric..
And I hated Dan Marino
I hated the Dolphins but he was incredible.. Like I said they couldn’t keep it goin Shula fukked alot of drafts
Why is that hard for you to understand?
Marino is like Rodgers in that eye test wise they are absolutely amazing but when looking at their playoff failures a lot of times it came down to the offense that got them as far as they did eventually fizzled out in the playoffs.
It's easy to look at highlight tapes and declare someone the GOAT but it's the stuff they do between the highlights that really defines them.
Kellen Winslow was there in 79 and the defense was 2nd ranked in pts allowed, same rank as their offensw
Because you are viewing it through 2023 eyes. Just 20 years ago having a career 2:1 td/int ratio was a big deal. Now everybody shyts all over that. 40 tds and 5 picks wasnt happening back then. When you can hit the QB and WR, nikkas will throw picks
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I watched Dan Marino though
He had everything except the wheels but even though he lacked speed he had great footwork in the pocket to avoid sacks
Dan Marino is ALL TIME GREAT
