He needs to pick Kamala and keep it pushing.
No one is going to be impressed by who he picks - he'll get the accolades -
No one is going to be impressed by who he picks - he'll get the accolades -
Joe Biden selects Senator Kamala Harris as his VP Pick
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No, Biden didn’t. BUT Clyburn was pushing hard for it because he felt Biden owed him for the endorsement/SC win.
DrBanneker
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Thank you somebody at least knows her record. Did nothing for Rwanda during the slaughter, helped wreck the DRC afterwards becoming overly solicitous to Paul Kagame, didn't have noteworthy accomplishments at the Obama NSC unless you want to count the Cuba trip. Even diplomats from the EU were throwing stones when she became NSC head. I mean, I think she is smart and savvy but I don't get all the hype.
The security and military establishment reportedly hates her as well.
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King Kreole
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This is a layup. The choice is obvious. Don't fukk this up, Joe.
This is a layup. The choice is obvious. Don't fukk this up, Joe.
Based on the economic situation we're in she should be chosen.
Biden said he wanted someone who he could disagree with on 'tactic' but they had to agree on strategy. That probably eliminates Warren because they are on two different wave lengths. They also might think she would be a liability with independents who see her as too far to the left. (That would hurt her in 2024 much more than 2020 but it's still something to consider.)
It feels like black women are trying to bully Biden into picking a black woman though. So I'll be shocked if it wasn't Kamala Harris.
King Kreole
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Interesting, why do you say this? I would imagine that being 2nd in command in the white house for an entire term would significantly curtail concerns about her being some unmoored commie who would run the country into the ground if she gained power.
Yeah, seeing a lot of this on twitter, the replies to those tweets I posted are some examples
I still think Kamala is the likeliest pick, but Liz is really a tier above everyone else in the running when it comes to...you know...doing the actual job. She was the first major politician and presidential candidate to release a plan to confront Coronavirus...back in fukkin January man. She's literally begging to be allowed to govern while everyone else is p*ssyfooting around. It's a layup.
I guess it would depend on how she runs in 2024. If she runs as a progressive again by "expanding on what we did" that could be problematic with independents who may see her as too far to the left. Especially in comparison to a moderate conservative. If she runs as a moderate liberal that would be more benefitical but the GOP will probably use her plans from the 2020 campaign to paint her as an out of control too much government progressive who isn't authentic in her sudden moderate shift. I'm not sure what the end result of that would be. And she could lose hype from progressives. She could probably work through that ok though.Interesting, why do you say this? I would imagine that being 2nd in command in the white house for an entire term would significantly curtail concerns about her being some unmoored commie who would run the country into the ground if she gained power.
Yeah, seeing a lot of this on twitter, the replies to those tweets I posted are some examples
I still think Kamala is the likeliest pick, but Liz is really a tier above everyone else in the running when it comes to...you know...doing the actual job. She was the first major politician and presidential candidate to release a plan to confront Coronavirus...back in fukkin January man. She's literally begging to be allowed to govern while everyone else is p*ssyfooting around. It's a layup.
As for the rest. I agree with you. Sadly she just got too many things going against her.
DrBanneker
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Honestly, having a large Black family who is pretty open about debating political issues, I don't see huge passion for Biden having a BW VP pick over Biden getting Trump out of the paint. The DNC needs to stop obsessing over the MSNBC talking heads and Blue Check Twitter. I hate to say this but BW turnout isn't swinging this election and neither Harris nor Rice is going to energize BM to get to the polls.
I'm going to enjoy the Coli threads though responding to the vast Twitter backlash if he doesn't pick Harris though
invincible1914
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I agree with all of this. The only bw vp pick that moves the needle is Michelle Obama. Everything else is just pandering. I’m around black women all the time and not a single one of them gives a crap about Rice or Harris. They do care about Bottoms an Stacy Abrams, but they aren’t experienced enough to b vp. Liz Warren is though.Honestly, having a large Black family who is pretty open about debating political issues, I don't see huge passion for Biden having a BW VP pick over Biden getting Trump out of the paint. The DNC needs to stop obsessing over the MSNBC talking heads and Blue Check Twitter. I hate to say this but BW turnout isn't swinging this election and neither Harris nor Rice is going to energize BM to get to the polls.
I'm going to enjoy the Coli threads though responding to the vast Twitter backlash if he doesn't pick Harris though
If only she was black though
dora_da_destroyer
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dora_da_destroyer
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This is a layup. The choice is obvious. Don't fukk this up, Joe.
If warren was Kamala’ sage, she’d make the most sense and be the best pick. I can’t see him picking someone who’ll be 74 in 2024 to be the VP/de facto lead candidate
King Kreole
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I'm not sold at all that the 2024 Democratic nominee has to be the 2020 VP. I see no reason why there can't be another Democratic primary in 2024. I think it's much more important to the Democratic Party (and the country) to have the Biden administration actually do the work of putting in place policies to fix the myriad structural issues that have led to this fukked up situation. Otherwise, the VP from a do-nothing Biden administration that will be facing strong headwinds and apathy as the Republican nominee (accurately) paints them as not up to the task. In fact, for the party's sake, I hope a do-nothing VP would be challenged and defeated in the 2024 primary by someone who actually wants to govern. Let's re-roll 1968.
