mc_brew
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but if you represent the minority opinion, how will you vote these congressmen and senators out....?
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That's why Medicare for all has a transitional period that takes care of those people. This country is fukked because we prop up industries that shouldn't exist in the name of jobs because we outsourced the actual manufacturing jobs that we used to have in this country. Trump ran on saving coal jobs and is looking to bailout oil companies. Both of which should fail as we move to take the lead on renewable energy technologies. It would not only help with climate change but make us energy independent and allow us to sever our relationship with Saudi Arabia and get out of these bullshyt wars. We should also focus on manufacturing necessities here to prevent the shortages we're seeing now due to disruption in the supply chain.
bernie sanders himself says it won't
which is why he's telling his supporters to vote for bidenit's interesting that bernie is a god who will make all this change, but at the same time you know more than him
We don't represent the minority opinion. The polls show that the majority of the country wants Medicare for all. Even the exit polls in states that Bernie lost showed majority support for Medicare for all. It's a matter of getting people to vote for what they want.
mc_brew
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so we should have medicare for all no matter who is elected, correct....? yet, we're no where near that and the people are not protesting this, they are just quietly supporting either trump or biden.... maybe people don't really want it that bad...
bernie sanders himself says it won't
it's interesting that bernie is a god who will make all this change, but at the same time you know more than him
He's not a god and I've said as much, I believe to you. I don't blindly follow Bernie because I think he can do no wrong, I was voting for Bernie because I agree with his agenda and I believe he would fight for it if he got into office. Even if he couldn't get everything he wanted done legislatively, I believe the country would be better off with what he could accomplish via executive order.
bernie sanders himself says it won't
it's interesting that bernie is a god who will make all this change, but at the same time you know more than him
He's not a god and I've said as much, I believe to you. I don't blindly follow Bernie because I think he can do no wrong, I was voting for Bernie because I agree with his agenda and I believe he would fight for it if he got into office. Even if he couldn't get everything he wanted done legislatively, I believe the country would be better off with what he could accomplish via executive order.
ok, but you don't trust him when he says it's worth making sure biden is president instead of trump?
that doesnt make any sense. if bernie is so great, why the fukk wouldnt you listen to his recommendation of who to vote for in november?
i don't give a shyt if you dont want to vote for biden. but i don't understand being passionate about far left ideas getting passed but lacking the foresight to have ANY strategy as far as the 2020 election
No, our elected officials don't represent us. Some form of federal background checks for gun purchases are supported by 95% of the country but we don't have it. People are complacent and not willing to fight for issues, those that care enough to take to the streets are the minority.
mc_brew
#NotMyPresident
look, i'm going to cut to the chase... i'm not going to try to get you to vote for biden, because that's not my job... it's biden's job to get you to vote for him, and if he can't win you over then he hasn't earned your vote... you've made it clear that biden does not represent your values or policies... for that you have my respect... but i don't think politics is the avenue you're going to see the change in this nation that you're looking for... voting for green party candidates isn't going to get any of them elected, but that's your right and i'm not going to belittle for that... again, you have my respect.... but you probably should chase down a different avenue for change...
You're the one who likes to say that Bernie never got anything done. Working within the limits of the Democratic party has gotten him nowhere. During the Obama administration he had to fight the Democrats to keep social security from being cut. I'm sure Bernie is hoping he can work with Biden to get something but I'm not too sure he will get any concessions.ok, but you don't trust him when he says it's worth making sure biden is president instead of trump?
that doesnt make any sense. if bernie is so great, why the fukk wouldnt you listen to his recommendation of who to vote for in november?
i don't give a shyt if you dont want to vote for biden. but i don't understand being passionate about far left ideas getting passed but lacking the foresight to have ANY strategy as far as the 2020 election
You think using the same strategy that has been in place since the Reagan era and hoping that it will yield different results is having foresight. That sounds more like failure to learn from history.
i guess i'll leave you to wallow in your progressive misery
you're aware that in 2024, you have another chance to try to elect a progressive? you want biden to president for the years leading up to that. not trump
Honestly I'm 100% the change won't come in my lifetime. We don't have enough people that care to pressure politicians or get in the streets and organize. The people that need the change the most are too busy trying to survive day to day to do anything beyond voting, if that. I know that my vote won't help the green party win. I live in New Orleans so my state is red but my district is blue, that gives me the freedom to vote for whoever I want because it doesn't make a difference. That's the only benefit of being in a red state.
You're working on a few assumptions. You're assuming Biden won't run for a second term. You're also assuming that if Biden isn't fit to run for a second term that he'll finish his first. You're also assuming that Biden's vice president wouldn't be the presumptive nominee if Biden didn't run for a second term.i guess i'll leave you to wallow in your progressive misery
you're aware that in 2024, you have another chance to try to elect a progressive? you want biden to president for the years leading up to that. not trump
All of that would have to be true to get a progressive candidate in 2024 instead of 2028 or 2032 if Biden wins. I'm not rooting for Trump and I'm not banking on some future progressive candidate that doesn't currently exist. If there was such a candidate in the future, why should I believe that the party establishment and the mainstream media would treat them any better than they did Bernie?