Joe Biden Faces Sexual Assault Allegations

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I mean this story really doesn’t hold up under scrutiny if you take off the “all women need to be believed” goggles. I am saying this as someone who isn’t a fan of Biden but trying to look at this allegation unbiased. Also women should have the benefit of the doubt when they make allegations, but a investigation has to take place to see if it’s true.

In this allegation the timeline is as follows:

I. Reade was harassed by the Biden team and forced to resign by losing responsibilities and being isolated after the team suggested she serve drinks at an event and she refused. Reade highlights she doesn’t even think Biden would know about how she was treated because his staff was protecting the young king.

II. Prior to this, Reade filed a complaint that she felt uncomfortable from Biden’s touching. And compared how he treated her to a lamp.

III. Biden raped Reade.

Now as I see it, these are three allegations that should stand on their own. I and II were released last year. I, II and III all could have happened. But proving I or II would not prove III. Obfuscating them all into one story helps make it easier to get people to believe, on one hand. But it also makes easier to discredit (which is why I don’t get the zeal for the Senate records, because if there is no complaint, that doesn’t discredit III, it should impact II).

Now everyone wants the Delaware records of her complaint unsealed, despite the likelihood that the complaint couldn't be found in there due to sorting issues (and the low odds that the complaint would have been sent to the Ethics committee). The NYT reported they couldn't find it in the Senate. Now, there's a chance that the evidence was destroyed, but I keep running into argumentative problems with how this story is playing out.

The only other corroboration has supposedly been from her neighbor, but if you read the actual article you find that she is not just remembering this from being told about it in the 1990s, and that Reade reached out to her in 2016 to get to know her again and then after that "reminded" her of the story, and told her she was going to go public with more details.

In regards to her mother’s Larry King call. It was framed as proof of her assault, the way it has been presented by some Reade advocates is that it proof of assault and Biden needed to drop out immediately. Except the transcript doesn't say that. It says Reade confided in her mother that she had problems, but there was no specificity. A huge outcry occurred despite the fact that, while the Larry King interview does confirm her mother knew something was wrong, it doesn't say what. Her mother is completely vague in the call about the nature of the complaint. It could have been referring to the fact staffers wanted her daughter to serve drinks or that Biden treated her daughter like a lamp.

Now we find out reporters are coaching Reade witnesses (aka her brother) on how best to get their story out with the least amount of scrutiny and that they should avoid Salon.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven as a quick framing of the story to cause damage to Biden. However, as I said Democrats are so in tune with “believe the victim” they aren’t applying scrutiny to this situation.
 
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:beli: jesus breh. he cant just come out and say hes only gonna serve one term because it makes him look weak

we all know joe biden would not seek a second term
We'll see. I think the dem bench will still be weak in 2023 he'll have options. Don't see any of the current group besides Whitmer, Klobchuar, or AOC doing much of anything.
 

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I mean this story really doesn’t hold up under scrutiny if you take off the “all women need to be believed” goggles. I am saying this as someone who isn’t a fan of Biden but trying to look at this allegation unbiased. Also women should have the benefit of the doubt when they make allegations, but a investigation has to take place to see if it’s true.

In this allegation the timeline is as follows:

I. Reade was harassed by the Biden team and forced to resign by losing responsibilities and being isolated after the team suggested she serve drinks at an event and she refused. Reade highlights she doesn’t even think Biden would know about how she was treated because his staff was protecting the young king.

II. Prior to this, Reade filed a complaint that she felt uncomfortable from Biden’s touching. And compared how he treated her to a lamp.

III. Biden raped Reade.

Now as I see it, these are three allegations that should stand on their own. I and II were released last year. I, II and III all could have happened. But proving I or II would not prove III. Obfuscating them all into one story helps make it easier to get people to believe, on one hand. But it also makes easier to discredit (which is why I don’t get the zeal for the Senate records, because if there is no complaint, that doesn’t discredit III, it should impact II).

Now everyone wants the Delaware records of her complaint unsealed, despite the likelihood that the complaint couldn't be found in there due to sorting issues (and the low odds that the complaint would have been sent to the Ethics committee). The NYT reported they couldn't find it in the Senate. Now, there's a chance that the evidence was destroyed, but I keep running into argumentative problems with how this story is playing out.

The only other corroboration has supposedly been from her neighbor, but if you read the actual article you find that she is not just remembering this from being told about it in the 1990s, and that Reade reached out to her in 2016 to get to know her again and then after that "reminded" her of the story, and told her she was going to go public with more details.

In regards to her mother’s Larry King call. It was framed as proof of her assault, the way it has been presented in by some Reade advocates is that it proof of assault and Biden needed to drop out immediately. Except the transcript doesn't say that. It says Reade confided in her mother that she had problems, but there was no specificity. A huge outcry occurred despite the fact that, while the Larry King interview does confirm her mother knew something was wrong, it doesn't say what. Her mother is completely vague in the call about the nature of the complaint. It could have been referring to the fact staffers wanted her daughter to serve drinks or that Biden treated her daughter like a lamp.

Now we find out reporters are coaching Reade witnesses (aka her brother) on how best to get their story out with the least amount of scrutiny and that they should avoid Salon.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven as a quick framing of the story to cause damage to Biden. However, as I said Democrats are so in tune with “believe the victim” they aren’t applying scrutiny to this situation.
This is it: the whole "believe women" thing has backfired yet again. We can't actually ever prove this, although the allegations are severe and there are obviously people who knew before the internet era. The fact she changed her story is very problematic but that is obviously her mother calling in. I think something happened, but the story that keeps changing makes everything iffy. This is not a third party-backed attack, and I think the journalists want to see if #metoo holds up here. Then again, people mentioning Franken being taken shows me there is hypocrisy from some people on this.
 

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:beli: jesus breh. he cant just come out and say hes only gonna serve one term because it makes him look weak

we all know joe biden would not seek a second term

I don’t know. It’s real hard to step down from power, especially if say he is doing a good job.
 

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This is it: the whole "believe women" thing has backfired yet again. We can't actually ever prove this, although the allegations are severe and there are obviously people who knew before the internet era. The fact she changed her story is very problematic but that is obviously her mother calling in. I think something happened, but the story that keeps changing makes everything iffy. This is not a third party-backed attack, and I think the journalists want to see if #metoo holds up here. Then again, people mentioning Franken being taken shows me there is hypocrisy from some people on this.

I do think it’s reasonable (even likely) that Biden sexually harassed her. There are multiple women with similar claims and we’ve seen video of him being too touchy.

However, the sexual assault allegation seems like she escalated the whole thing. The issue is way to muddy to get a clear view of what happened.
 

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in 4 years from today, joe biden will not be gearing up to run for president again :laff:

if he wins

In 4 years from now, he’s healthy, has positive poll numbers and he thinks he can beat his republican opponent why the fukk not.

Yeah he is old, but who gives up all that power
 

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I do think it’s reasonable (even likely) that Biden sexually harassed her. There are multiple women with similar claims and we’ve seen video of him being too touchy.

However, the sexual assault allegation seems like she escalated the whole thing. The issue is way to muddy to get a clear view of what happened.
Yes. We have clear proof of the other allegations, not this one. That said, Biden's camp should have closed this issue up already. If this is a lie, say so, and let's move on.
 

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Yes. We have clear proof of the other allegations, not this one. That said, Biden's camp should have closed this issue up already. If this is a lie, say so, and let's move on.

They did call it a lie. The NY Times said they couldn’t collaborate the story enough to publish it. I think Biden expected the story to die or being on the fringe.

The most worrisome part was that a reporter was caught “coaching” them in the story. It makes the whole thing come off as media manipulation and a smear campaign.
 

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They did call it a lie. The NY Times said they couldn’t collaborate the story enough to publish it. I think Biden expected the story to die or being on the fringe.

The most worrisome part was that a reporter was caught “coaching” them in the story. It makes the whole thing come off as media manipulation and a smear campaign.
The reporter skirting the lines of ethics is why I don't believe this should end his campaign. It feels like they beefed up the allegations o get more media coverage.
 

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:beli: jesus breh. he cant just come out and say hes only gonna serve one term because it makes him look weak

we all know joe biden would not seek a second term

Why? The last president who didn't seek to run for reelection when they had a right to, was Johnson. And that was because of Vietnam. Reagan sought a second term and he was showing early signs of dementia back then. What makes you think Biden would be so willing to give up a seat he's been running for his whole political life? Genuinely curious.
 

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Why? The last president who didn't seek to run for reelection when they had a right to, was Johnson. And that was because of Vietnam. Reagan sought a second term and he was showing early signs of dementia back then. What makes you think Biden would be so willing to give up a seat he's been running for his whole political life? Genuinely curious.
because he's fukking 79 years old :dahell: we're literally talking about him making it to november right now
 

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because he's fukking 79 years old :dahell: we're literally talking about him making it to november right now

So? He may die in office but if he was concerned about his age he wouldn't be in the race to start with. Why would he be confident to run for president only to hand that shyt over after 4 years? Has he given any indication that he understands how his age is a factor?
 
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