Jill Stein is 'Predatory', says AOC
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Depending on some posters on this site, if you're not going to vote Democrat, then they'd rather you not exercise your right to vote even if it's for a 3rd party which goes against the fundamentals of what voting is supposed to be for.
AOCs big plan (Green New Deal) was actually submitted for a vote. It lost, but it was submitted and created a large groundswell of support.
Student loan forgiveness was shot down by the courts.
They're out here submitting bills for vote while Stein is talking and collecting checks every four years.
Saysumthinfunnymike
VOTE!!!
Jill Stein has a zero percent chance of implementing anything that she talks about and that is AOC's point. Not just on a national level. Jill Stein hasn't accomplished shyt locally either. That's where it starts. If you can't even get anything done on the local level, then what are you doing? Why are you popping up every 4 years to talk nonsense when you aren't grinding ? They can't get a fukking dog catcher elected.
AOC on the other hand, if even 10% or 20% of her issues are taken up by Congress and the needle is moved... that's real work. Progressive ideas are slow moving but some of those ideas have turned into policy as the years go on and that's because politicians like AOC get the ball rolling.
Furthermore, politicians like AOC are in the streets with their constituents for real. Every other week she's out in her district fighting for union workers etc..
People only believe in the two party system anyways, so a third party doesn't have a remote chance of actually making something happen on a national level. AOC is completely overlooking that detail for obvious reasons as well.
Even posters on this site would rather you not exercise your right to vote at all if it's third, which again completely disregards and disrespects the fundamental reason of someone having the right to vote in the first place.
It's literally happening in this thread and it happened as well as a few days ago.
Saysumthinfunnymike
VOTE!!!
This is a bunch of nonsense that has nothing to do with my post or AOC's point. "People only believe in a two party system" is not true. That's how our system has been designed on the national level. Everyone knows big donors call the plays, welcome to U.S. government 101.
On the local level, it's absolutely a possibility to get shyt done as a third party but the reason people like Jill Stein don't is because they don't believe in the grind that it would take. They are in it for handouts more than the possibility of change.
AOC's view as a progressive is to work with moderates to find common ground and move the needle on her ideas. Again, accomplishing a small percent of what you want to do is better than accomplishing zero percent and being a grifter. Policy isn't created and passed into law overnight.
Gritsngravy
Superstar
Prove Cornell is a grifterDudes in here acting like Cornel ain't a grifter trying to pay off his taxes
All these third party candidates this cycle are in it for the shakedown....
It's scary how some people can't see that.
It does have everything do with your post and AOC's point because depending on the city and the lobbyist at play, that third party may not even have a chance there even locally.
If there are some people that believe in Jill Stein (I personally don't) and want to vote for her, then more power to them because they're exercising their right to vote, which is all you can really ask for.
Gritsngravy
Superstar
You know what’s funny about the past couple of elections, you go people talking like they campaign strategist or something, like when did this start happening
Once the internet gave people the opportunity to spew their rhetoric and opinions. Worst part about it is that a lot of people aren't even getting paid to do it and essentially doing it for free.
Saysumthinfunnymike
VOTE!!!
This is just the beginning and I can delve way deeper into what's up with this man. He's attempting to pay off his taxes and alimony while talking up right-wing talking points and conspiracy theories.
Cornel West’s ‘leftist’ presidential bid has right-wing DNA
The people framing newly announced presidential candidate Cornel West as a leftist seem to be lazily sanitizing his recent history. And voters deserve better.
www.msnbc.com
Saysumthinfunnymike
VOTE!!!
Still has nothing to do with my posts or her points. People can vote for Jill Stein if they want but the reality is the reality. She's not out here grinding and she pops up every 4 years for a handout.
It’s still their right to vote and some of the same arguments you use against her, you can apply to politics in general as thats essentially what politics is.
You can spin it however you want, but that’s essentially what politics is and has always been rooted in.
Gritsngravy
Superstar
It’s really disappointing because ideally we supposed to be on some black people first shyt but all people want to be dem and rep more so than black
Like what part of the game is allowing these people to keep putting out bullshyt ass candidates, and not just nationally but on a state level too, people get elected and immediately show they ass because they got to ride with they “side”
This isn’t something we have to accept, people actually can do something about that, where has this narrative come from that you ain’t got no other choice but to vote for the two main parties, that doesn’t even make any sense
But I know what happened, corporations and other forging entities(Jews and y’all can’t say that’s antiseptic cause they showed they ass all fukking year) basically bought out the system, own all of media and they select who becomes the spokesperson for America and they actually write the laws
And y’all to scared to do something about it cause yall let the media convince yall if you don’t vote for so and so they other guy will destroy the country