Jesse Jackson To Take On Silicon Valley's Lack of Diversity

[theworldismine13]

Then you shouldn't have a problem with him meeting them then...since Black people in Silicon Valley have plenty of opportunities.


http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/17/technology/diversity-silicon-valley/

black people with the right technical background have plenty of opportunities in silicon valley, there is no evidence that racism or discrimination is the cause for so few black people, the problem is there are very black people with the technical background to begin with

like i said before if black people were facing discrimination in SV that would be a step forward, because it would mean there are black people in the mix

i dont know wether to laugh or to cry if you think jesse jackson is "kicking in the door", it just shows you have no clue on how to solve the issue aside from begging white people to do something about it

that article is just white liberal gibberish that will lead black people to the same intellectual dead end you and jesse jackson are at, we need to focus on black solutions to black problems not on what white people are doing

 

[ltheghost]

black people with the right technical background have plenty of opportunities in silicon valley, there is no evidence that racism or discrimination is the cause for so few black people, the problem is there are very black people with the technical background to begin with

like i said before if black people were facing discrimination in SV that would be a step forward, because it would mean there are black people in the mix

i dont know wether to laugh or to cry if you think jesse jackson is "kicking in the door", it just shows you have no clue on how to solve the issue aside from begging white people to do something about it

that article is just white liberal gibberish that will lead black people to the same intellectual dead end you and jesse jackson are at, we need to focus on black solutions to black problems not on what white people are doing

I take it you didn't read the article. The point was these companies are not reporting their numbers. I think you need to be less pessimistic and a little more realistic how the real world works. If Black people could at the snap of the fingers fix our own problems, wouldn't you think we would have already? But you are talking about changing a systemic ever growing corporate environment that at a moments notice will buy your black ass company or crush it the minute you get off the ground. (BET) Send your jobs to China and take credit for all your hard work. Black people are in the position they are in today because they are cut off from the rest of the world. We are trapped in an illusion of inclusion and mothafukkas with no money don't get a voice at the table. Let Jesse do what he is doing. Stop with the crabs in a barrel mentality and pulling the brotha down because you disagree with his methods.

 

[theworldismine13]

I take it you didn't read the article. The point was these companies are not reporting their numbers. I think you need to be less pessimistic and a little more realistic how the real world works. If Black people could at the snap of the fingers fix our own problems, wouldn't you think we would have already? But you are talking about changing a systemic ever growing corporate environment that at a moments notice will buy your black ass company or crush it the minute you get off the ground. (BET) Send your jobs to China and take credit for all your hard work. Black people are in the position they are in today because they are cut off from the rest of the world. We are trapped in an illusion of inclusion and mothafukkas with no money don't get a voice at the table. Let Jesse do what he is doing. Stop with the crabs in a barrel mentality and pulling the brotha down because you disagree with his methods.

what difference does it make if they report their numbers? i can tell you what the numbers are, the numbers are that there is basically no black people in SV

i never said anything about snapping fingers, i said black people need to get together with other black people and solve our problems, the fact that you dont believe that the solution to black problems are inside the black community shows what the real problem is, you and jesse jackson have a mentallity that believe that white people have the power to solve your problems

what i am saying is far from crabs in a barrel im saying the opposite, im saying black people need to get together, we dont have to go and beg white people for anything

what jesse jackson is doing is harmful because it doesnt address the real issues and continues this notion that white people are going to solve black problems

the real issue is that black people have an anti academic culture

 

[ltheghost]

what difference does it make if they report their numbers? i can tell you what the numbers are, the numbers are that there is basically no black people in SV

i never said anything about snapping fingers, i said black people need to get together with other black people and solve our problems, the fact that you dont believe that the solution to black problems are inside the black community shows what the real problem is, you and jesse jackson have a mentallity that believe that white people have the power to solve your problems

what i am saying is far from crabs in a barrel im saying the opposite, im saying black people need to get together, we dont have to go and beg white people for anything

what jesse jackson is doing is harmful because it doesnt address the real issues and continues this notion that white people are going to solve black problems

the real issue is that black people have an anti academic culture

I see and understand what you are trying to kick here, but you know it won't work. You are asking for black separatism when collectively we don't have a pot to piss in for this to happen. Now you can believe what you want but lets deal with facts. We don't have a multinational BLACK OWNED corporation that can make what you want happen. Money rules this world not color. Whoever has the most money makes the rules. The problem with your way of thinking is that it is naive. It's well intentioned but in today's America..it can't happen. There was a time that this could have happened but since we have had integration in America we have to play a different game. I wish what you wished could happen and maybe it will in 20 years but right now, we still need people like Jesse Jackson to give those in power.."problems". But hey, why don't we just see what happens first? Jesse getting a result or your method of "Black people getting together". I'm for both. But I want to see results before I'm 50.

Edit: And I agree with your statement on black people having an anti-academic culture. That's a killer right there. There were probably more people at Boosie's getting out jail party than his graduation (if he graduated).

 

[theworldismine13]

I see and understand what you are trying to kick here, but you know it won't work. You are asking for black separatism when collectively we don't have a pot to piss in for this to happen. Now you can believe what you want but lets deal with facts. We don't have a multinational BLACK OWNED corporation that can make what you want happen. Money rules this world not color. Whoever has the most money makes the rules. The problem with your way of thinking is that it is naive. It's well intentioned but in today's America..it can't happen. There was a time that this could have happened but since we have had integration in America we have to play a different game. I wish what you wished could happen and maybe it will in 20 years but right now, we still need people like Jesse Jackson to give those in power.."problems". But hey, why don't we just see what happens first? Jesse getting a result or your method of "Black people getting together". I'm for both. But I want to see results before I'm 50.

first of all i said exactly what i meant, i didnt say anything about black separatism, i said that black people need to get with black people to solve black problems and what jesse jackson is doing is begging

money does not rule the world, knowledge rules the world, and technical knowledge is what rules silicon valley

black people dont have knowledge therefore we dont have money, we dont have technical knowledge therefore there are very few blacks in silicon valley

this lack of knowledge stems from black people having an anti academic culture and that is something that black people need to fix

begging white people will not produce results, that is a lie that you and jesse jackson believe in

 

[theworldismine13]

Edit: And I agree with your statement on black people having an anti-academic culture. That's a killer right there. There were probably more people at Boosie's getting out jail party than his graduation (if he graduated).

yeah i group or culture that celebrate boosie are probably not going to be going to top universities which in turn will not be in silicon valley

 

[ltheghost]

first of all i said exactly what i meant, i didnt say anything about black separatism, i said that black people need to get with black people to solve black problems and what jesse jackson is doing is begging

money does not rule the world, knowledge rules the world, and technical knowledge is what rules silicon valley

black people dont have knowledge therefore we dont have money, we dont have technical knowledge therefore there are very few blacks in silicon valley

this lack of knowledge stems from black people having an anti academic culture and that is something that black people need to fix

begging white people will not produce results, that is a lie that you and jesse jackson believe in

You know that the Rainbow Push Collation isn't just Jesse Jackson...lol It's black people getting with black people to solve black problems. But, see, you are real good at identifying problems and not giving any real answers. Anti-Academic culture? How do you fix it? You need leaders. You need black men and women to go out in this world and challenge the status quo. We aren't not settling for scraps. We are not begging. We are taking. That's the American way.

Forget building a black google from the ground up...let's just take it. Make them teach us how fish and then send them down the river. Or when they see us coming pay us off to keep us away. Or when they are not being fair in hiring practices, we make their lives uncomfortable. By Any Means....until we have the freedom we are looking for. Because right now, looking around, all I see is everyone else getting rich while we got Boosie...lol

 

[theworldismine13]

You know that the Rainbow Push Collation isn't just Jesse Jackson...lol It's black people getting with black people to solve black problems. But, see, you are real good at identifying problems and not giving any real answers. Anti-Academic culture? How do you fix it? You need leaders. You need black men and women to go out in this world and challenge the status quo. We aren't not settling for scraps. We are not begging. We are taking. That's the American way.

i dont have the solution, but the first step in a solution is identifying it, and im identifying it, i agree that we need to challenge the status quo, and i think jesse jackson and his liberalism is the status quo and im challenging it and im challenging the idea that racism as the main cause of problems in the black community

for example if you see there are very black people in SV and you say its because of racism, you are not identifying the problem correctly which means you will have not have a good solution,

jesse jackson has been doing his thing forever and it is begging, im challenging the status quo and you are trying to tell me the go along with it, nothing you or jesse is suggesting is about taking anything, stop it, what you and jesse jackson are doing is begging and begging white people is not something that black people need to be doing

 

[ltheghost]

yeah i group or culture that celebrate boosie are probably not going to be going to top universities which in turn will not be in silicon valley

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i dont have the solution, but the first step in a solution is identifying it, and im identifying it, i agree that we need to challenge the status quo, and i think jesse jackson and his liberalism is the status quo and im challenging it and im challenging the idea that racism as the main cause of problems in the black community

for example if you see there are very black people in SV and you say its because of racism, you are not identifying the problem correctly which means you will have not have a good solution,

jesse jackson has been doing his thing forever and it is begging, im challenging the status quo and you are trying to tell me the go along with it, nothing you or jesse is suggesting is about taking anything, stop it, what you and jesse jackson are doing is begging and begging white people is not something that black people need to be doing

If you don't have a solution then all you are nothing. And I'm sorry but these corporations have changed their tunes for the betterment of black people when we used to have mass protests and SIT INS. We have to live here to, why can't we live like that them right now? If you think sitting at a table with your enemy and negotiating terms and conditions is begging..then..I don't know what to tell you. And last I checked it was white men and asians running Silicon Valley. Why are they ignoring their biggest customer base? (Black People) Now while Jesse is out there you can come up with the solution. And we can do both things at the same time. But first and foremost we gotta change this anti-education culture. And that can only be done by fathers in the home.

 

[theworldismine13]

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If you don't have a solution then all you are nothing. And I'm sorry but these corporations have changed their tunes for the betterment of black people when we used to have mass protests and SIT INS. We have to live here to, why can't we live like that them right now? If you think sitting at a table with your enemy and negotiating terms and conditions is begging..then..I don't know what to tell you. And last I checked it was white men and asians running Silicon Valley. Why are they ignoring their biggest customer base? (Black People) Now while Jesse is out there you can come up with the solution. And we can do both things at the same time. But first and foremost we gotta change this anti-education culture. And that can only be done by fathers in the home.

what are you talking about there are ignoring there biggest customer base?

i think like a lot of people commenting in this thread you dont know what silicon valley is, and like i said in my first post, the fact that you think mass protests and sit in are the key to getting more black people in silicon valley shows that you are at an intellectual dead end and have no clue about silicon valley

 

[ltheghost]

what are you talking about there are ignoring there biggest customer base?

i think like a lot of people commenting in this thread you dont know what silicon valley is, and like i said in my first post, the fact that you think mass protests and sit in are the key to getting more black people in silicon valley shows that you are at an intellectual dead end and have no clue about silicon valley

Do they breath air? Bleed just like us? Then they can open to talks. Quit protecting silicon valley..they are not special.
Taken directly from the article.

Earl "Butch" Graves Jr., president and CEO of Black Enterprise magazine, says Jackson is shining a light on the fact that technology companies don't come close to hiring or spending what is commensurate with the demographics of their customers.

 

[theworldismine13]

Do they breath air? Bleed just like us? Then they can open to talks. Quit protecting silicon valley..they are not special.

again, there is no evidence that qualified black people are being denied employment, so i have no idea what you want to open talks for, the only thing that needs to do the talking in silicon valley is your resume and your technical knowledge

black people do not need to go to silicon valley to beg, black people need to go to silicon valley with a degree and half a brain, that is all

 

[ltheghost]

again, there is no evidence that qualified black people are being denied employment, so i have no idea what you want to open talks for, the only thing that needs to do the talking in silicon valley is your resume and your technical knowledge

And you are still protecting them. Since they won't release their hiring information. You have no idea if they are hiring or not. LOL bring your resume and technical knowledge thinking they will accept you.....sure. If you believe that.
During a recent speech at Stanford University, Jackson cited the dearth of black and Latino leaders in the tech sector. This got sophomore computer science major Rotimi Opeke, a leader at the school's Society of Black Scientists and Engineers, wondering about his own opportunities.

"I've been thinking that if I can code well and produce good products, I can be successful, but to rise up through the ranks is going to be a challenge," he says. "There's just not a lot of people of color in high levels of tech leadership which is where, eventually, I'd like to be. I'm hopeful that it's not impossible to get there, but I do feel it would take an extraordinary level of leadership skills to navigate."

 

[theworldismine13]

And you are still protecting them. Since they won't release their hiring information. You have no idea if they are hiring or not. LOL bring your resume and technical knowledge thinking they will accept you.....sure. If you believe that.

the numbers arent any secret, like i said i can tell you what the numbers are, for all intents and purposes, its about zero, there are very few black people in silicon valley,

im not in the bay area im im southern california but i work in technology and ive never heard of a black person with a STEM degree having problems getting a job, there simply arent a lot of black people with STEM degrees, that is why i say if there was vast discrimination against black people in silcon valley that would be a step up because right now there are no people black people in silicon valley, relatively speaking, and the reason is that there are no black people with technical degrees, relatively speaking

the notion that you can negotiate with companies to hire people that dont exist is dumb, it shows an antiquated mentality that is till living in the 60's and has no clue, jesse jackson and you need to sit down and have some deep thoughts

 

[theworldismine13]

During a recent speech at Stanford University, Jackson cited the dearth of black and Latino leaders in the tech sector. This got sophomore computer science major Rotimi Opeke, a leader at the school's Society of Black Scientists and Engineers, wondering about his own opportunities.

"I've been thinking that if I can code well and produce good products, I can be successful, but to rise up through the ranks is going to be a challenge," he says. "There's just not a lot of people of color in high levels of tech leadership which is where, eventually, I'd like to be. I'm hopeful that it's not impossible to get there, but I do feel it would take an extraordinary level of leadership skills to navigate."

that is a very unique name, so a quick google search shows that this guys is not hurting for a job

http://www.linkedin.com/in/opeke

the notion that a stanford stem graduate would have trouble getting a job is just stupid, and your quote just shows how jesse jackson is misleading people