Jermaine Dupri Responds To Puff : I’m in the Songwriters Hall Of Fame, Something He can’t pay for”

[Controversy]

Stop it.
Jodeci's hits were produced by Davonte and his team. written by Davonte and his team. The Swing Mob.
Thats Missy, Timberland, Ginuwine, Static Major, and Stevie J. So no that isn't Puffy's shyt at all.

112, Total, Carl Thomas, Mary J were not Puff produced and written artists, because Puff isn't a real producer or writer.

This hating has gotta stop

JD challenged Puffy as a mogul, but then tried to change the conversation into strictly writing & producing



It's much harder to be a successful mogul than it is to be a successful producer

Puff was the driving force behind that first Jodeci album and the first 2 Mary albums, it's documented

No matter how much y'all nikkas hate Puff, you can't take away his genius and achievement as a visionary in the culture

 

[Rekkapryde]

Well when artists leave Puff they usually end up dead or in jail

Fam

 

[Controversy]

Jd was a boss and dropping hits. Nobody looked at him like he trying to be puffy. He was actually doing what puff acted like he was doing.

how old are you?



You don't think JD jumping on tracks talking about "y'all know what this is...SO...SO...Def" wasn't him doing his best Puff impression

 

[catskill247]

he wrote confessions.. what did Diddy write?

Cheques....
Actually he probably just stamped his signature

 

[Rain]

Puff really pulled off one of the greatest cons in music with convincing people he's Quincy Jones

 

[Controversy]

i been telling folks that JD gets underrated lol

The crazy thing is that Puff was the one that got associate producer credit for that whole album

Jay was coming off a dud with kingdom come, and Puff was sitting on them AG beats and gave them to Jay...they were originally intended for BIG and nikka sat on them for a decade

 

[C-Styles]

you can tell that mfs here don't know what an ACTUAL PRODUCER does. A producer isn't the beat maker, he's the person giving direction and overseeing the whole song. When people say "i don't know what puffy did but he gave a special touch" what they are trying to say in caveman terms is that PUFF IS A WHOLE PRODUCER, giving the got damn direction of the whole song. He'll let you know what's missing, what to add, what kind of sample to put in there, the bpm, etc. In every other genre that's basically what a producer does. In hip hop that term got lost due to beat makers crediting themselves as such when you got someone else in the room with a more musical ear leading the way

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Jd was a boss and dropping hits. Nobody looked at him like he trying to be puffy. He was actually doing what puff acted like he was doing.

Bet

 

[JustCKing]

yall just gonna continue to give Puff credit for attaching his name to finished work huh?

None of those songs were finished works because in most cases, he was the one who started the process. Ya'll stuck on stupid.

There is a difference between what A Nashiem Myric production sounds like without Puff. Much more rugged, grimier sound. D Dot has a different sound. Ron Amen Ra Lawerence has a different sound.

Their work without Puff was less based around blatant sample lifts. That's what made The Hitmen huge. After Hip Hop shifted from sampling to what Timbaland, The Neptunes, Swizz, and Mannie were doing, Puff was nowhere near what he was. Since then, he hasn't had as many credits because Puff was the one bringing in samples and telling one or multiple Hitmen how he wanted it to sound.

 

[Controversy]

They're not that's the entire point

Everybody knows what Puff has done this is about nikkas not knowing what JD has done

Nikkas are so unaware of the scale of JD's touch that it's disrespectful

JD is only in Puff's stratosphere on the r&b side, he's not on the rap side and that's what makes it lopsided

JD plays U Got It Bad, Puff plays Forever My Lady

JD plays We Belong Together, Puff plays I'm Goin Down

JD plays Always Be My Baby, Puff plays Fantasy

JD plays Where The Party At, Puff plays Only You Remix

Puff has a counter for EVERY r&b record JD could use

JD has no counters for the bad boy rap hits

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

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[Controversy]

you can tell that mfs here don't know what an ACTUAL PRODUCER does. A producer isn't the beat maker, he's the person giving direction and overseeing the whole song. When people say "i don't know what puffy did but he gave a special touch" what they are trying to say in caveman terms is that PUFF IS A WHOLE PRODUCER, giving the got damn direction of the whole song. He'll let you know what's missing, what to add, what kind of sample to put in there, the bpm, etc. In every other genre that's basically what a producer does. In hip hop that term got lost due to beat makers crediting themselves as such when you got someone else in the room with a more musical ear leading the way

Ready to Die is a classic album bc of Puff

Puff was the one that made a rugged BK nikka like Biggie smoother around the edges

Biggie would've been Jeru The Damaja but Puff gave him the direction to be an all around rapper...rap for the streets, but rap for the ladies, rap about the ghetto fabulous lifestyle...don't just rock flannels, throw some coogi on, throw on some gators....Biggie's albums would've sounded a lot diff if he signed to labels like Ruffhouse back then

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

Poke of Trackmasters. This is a producer that Puffy has worked with countless times and him and the Trackmasters made some magic together. Now in this quote, Poke gives dude props and calls him a great a&r. But he also calls out the bullshyt and far as him getting and stealing credit. This the Trackmasters, not some internet nikka. Everyone know what it is with dude lol


Poke: “It’s no big deal [we didn’t get the proper credit for that record]. It’s not like Puff don’t know what he’s doing. He is—if not one of the all-time greatest—the best A&Rs in the business. He knew about putting proper elements together and making hits. He probably wasn’t thinking, ‘I may be fukking up some of these people’s lives by not giving them the proper credit.’

“Mind you, this is pre-e-mail, this is pre-everything being typed out. Stupid shyt would happen. Let’s say we’re working on an album and we did two songs. Then the artist goes and works with other producers. Then they want to do more records when they get to the tail end of the album and we do more songs. The first set of songs get a first set of credits and then the last set of songs gets a different set of credits; it’s two different pieces of paper that you hand in.

Puff goes in, he puts the proper team together, a hit record comes out, and he takes the [credit]. He’s the pool shark, he’s the best at getting credit. He knows how to seize the opportunity to make sure the credit favors him. - Poke

Trackmasters Tell All: The Stories Behind Their Classic Records (Part 1)

 

[JustCKing]

My point is, for the songs that Puff does have credit on. No one knows how much this man was contributing like that and just runs with the myth he’s some super producer. Whereas someone like Dre or JD, even if someone points out co producers they’ve worked with, people assume they still made significant contributions to the tracks they a part of. You have infamous stories about Puff coming into sessions and telling the producer to add a bell or something to get credit. These stories are from industry producers. So this is not some new criticism that only people outside the industry just made up lol. If he infamous for getting credit for barley doing anything, then surely it’s fair to wanna know what exactly he did on specific tracks being that he’s going around acting as if he’s the most untouchable producer.

If you don't know how much Puff contributes, then you're wasting time arguing especially saying he does nothing. It's contradictory.

Him adding a bell to one song is one story. It's "Special Delivery" and that bell is a staple on many Bad Boy songs. It's a signature.

 

[David_TheMan]

This hating has gotta stop

JD challenged Puffy as a mogul, but then tried to change the conversation into strictly writing & producing



It's much harder to be a successful mogul than it is to be a successful producer

Puff was the driving force behind that first Jodeci album and the first 2 Mary albums, it's documented

No matter how much y'all nikkas hate Puff, you can't take away his genius and achievement as a visionary in the culture

No he did not. He literally just called out Puffy for Versuz, why you making up mogul shyt. lol

You puffy stans fell all the way back to lying out right to defend Puffy for what? he isn't a great producer, he isn't a writer, and he contributes nothing to the music.
If you want to say he is a promoter fine, but leave it there, but when it comes to music, JD shyts on him.