Na deep down I believe in aliens but I want concrete evidence of their existence, not analysis of an obscure video clouded by biased judgements from untrustworthy sources. I don't want it to be either, I'm trying to remain objective given the information.
Jellyfish UFO's captured on military weapons camera
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Understandable. But I just dont think chances lean on it being a smudge or a bug based upon the situation at hand. And I mean you had people that know more than us and utilize that equipment and were on base telling us that IR looks past bugs or smudges.
Im mainly arguing in favor of it being an object off lens.
I haven't lied on you.
Yes I think that hot/cold temp thing is more likely a change in the IR camera trying to focus but I'm not an expert
Bro it one hundred percent is, you don't need to be a expert to see that...just pay attention to the roads and structures in the video. When they change colors, so does the "object"
@AngryBaby
You tell me who's a IR video expert and who is just a random Twitter profile...
Which is why I said that it's likely something with the camera and how the IR operates
Now are you gonna acknowledge the Twitter post I made already where a guy who actually works on this type of unit/camera posed why it isn't a smudge or bug on/around the camera lense
Who is "they", Jeremy Corbell? A KNOWN liar who has already been caught lying about temperature on this very video?
Someone said that people on the ground didn't see it, but it was also dark and they had no idea how far from the camera or how high above the ground the object is. So it could have been something stuck in front of the camera (which obviously people on the ground wouldn't see) or something in a different part of the line of sight than the people on the ground were looking.
But it's not "significantly lighter and darker than everything in the background". In the default state it's somewhere around the middle. It only goes towards the extreme dark end like everything else in the middle when they ramp up the camera settings in that direction, then somewhat towards the light end like everything else in the middle when they ramp the camera settings towards the opposite direction.
And it's never even close to being the "lightest" thing in the video. Even at the extremely lightest setting, most of the ground is much lighter than the object
Perhaps they were afraid of losing track of the object if they switched away from infrared, and didn't do so because they were already tracking it no problem in that setting. Or maybe they did view it through optical and we just haven't seen that part of the video. What actual evidence do you have that they didn't view it through regular settings?
You keep arguing definitively for extreme, unlikely scenarios despite having no actual evidence for those claims.
There was also people on the base who said they did think it was something mundane like a bug or a smudge, and they had been debating it with other people on base for longer than us. Which indicates that the argument against "a bug or a smudge" isn't so strong as to have convinced everyone on base that it was wrong. Until we see video footage that
IR obviously can't look past all bugs and smudges, otherwise there'd be no need to clean it. And perhaps you misunderstood me, but I was arguing for an object off-lens too, which is why I was saying that it might be hanging from the housing (which could mean anything for a few millimeters in front of the lens to possibly a few feet in front of the lens), not stuck to the lens itself.
If someone actually shows definitively that nothing can ever show up on IR until it is at least X meters in front of the camera lens, then that would be a great place to work off of. But no one has done that.
Whatever side you’re on this we can all agree there’s a lot we don’t know about, it’s not impossible that there would be parallel dimensions coexisting and some them would have the capacity interact with ours
You had just said, "I know you're very uninformed on him [Grusch] and that topic."
That was a total lie, based on nothing. And you said something similar earlier in the conversation.
So when Jeremy Corbell claims definitively that the object is changing temperatures, even after his extensive study of the video, doesn't that suggest to you that he's either a straight liar or quite stupid?
Because I've been told many times in this thread that Corbell vets everything and I must be stupid if I am willing to contradict him.
Well it was said that it was him and those who released the video to him. What you're saying is what would have to happen is seeing the non-infrared footage. So your position would have to then be, that hes holding that back from us
Does infrared not look past bugs or dirt like they said? And that they recieve that kind of stuff daily. Which makes sense?
So its your word versus his? What are your credentials again?
Have you operated said equipment. Because if he has, and you havent. Then I have to lean towards credibility here
You are.. your comments about him seem to be uninformed on his activities and his job in finding SAPs involving UFOs. You've made comments in these threads and others insisting he was told by a buddy or couple people or even Corbell about these things. You're not coming across as intelligent on that subject, sorry guy
Idk why you're so obsessed with trying to prove to me Corbell is a liar when I've never held him in any high regard. He posted a video dude. That's what's interesting to me, then Greenstreet got other confirmation that the video is legit from another source.
What is the extreme unlikely scenario that i'm arguing for?
That the people that have more credibility than me or you have already come out and said that it wasnt a smudge? That the likelihood of them not vetting that it wasnt a spider or a smudge is still lower than the other way around?
They already indicated that they recieve bugs and dirt all the time through regular footage. Which makes sense.
You are the one placing faith in your own ideals and metabunk over the people that are more closely involved.
Everything for you iust boils down to "I dont believe them" lol but yet you mark yourself as more credible.