Jellyfish UFO's captured on military weapons camera

[jaydawg08]

The fact that you can't identify something doesn't mean it's evidence of whatever you want it to be.


Why not say that UAPs are evidence of Iraqi militant activity? Or ghosts? Or of angels? Or of other dimensions? Or secret Hindu flying technology from the Ramayan? Or just that they're great evidence of the capacity for humans to fall victim to visual and cognitive illusions?

To be evidence of something, you have to actually have some sort of positive evidence that pushes towards that conclusion. Not just "I can't identify it and therefore....

lol - no one could be reading my posts in here and claim that I'm the one who sounds ill-informed on this topic.






First off, that's blatantly false, no one in Congress has claimed the US government is not in control, they just claim that THEY haven't been let into the club.

And second, if "someone other than the US government" was in control, that makes the suggestion that they could somehow maintain perfect international operation security for 90+ years even less likely. How the fukk would some non-government entity prevent all private individuals AND all government individuals, not just from the US government but from every other government too, from coming across and putting forth conclusive proof of any random UFO crash they find?

Uhh when something is unidentified then you literally can pose that as evidence of your theory.... that's how theories work brah. Idk if you weren't aware previously so glad I can help you out

An unidentified flying object that either has some strange body makeup, or physics, or propulsion is literally evidence. It's not hard brah.

I mean it can be evidence of whatever dumbass theory that someone could pose.. like not long ago I read that it could be a spider skin. Now that sounds incredibly stupid, but hey that's a theory no matter how dumb considering the camera and object angle on the camera. (And yes this is a dig on how stupid that theory you got from Metabunk is)

Well yes that's exactly what they are claiming.. They aren't in control via government oversight. The literal definition of Congressional control. You aren't very good at this

Well that's exactly why the ICIG had their own investigation, apparently found the reports of outside SAP's and aerospace companies hiding these things credible, then apparently told some version of that to House Reps in a SCIF

Once again... try and keep up

 

[Professor Emeritus]

First off the commentator is lying. You can easily tell the camera is switching between black hot and white hot. At first I'm like "looks like bird shyt on the camera, but I can't really tell because of how they're moving it


I believe in aliens, but I don't think this proves anything.

Breh, not only is he blatantly lying, but the posters in here absolutely believe his lies no matter how obvious the evidence is.

 

[Gains]

 

[Professor Emeritus]

in these pics, theres images of the device in different areas than the lighter areas in the background. But it makes it LOOK like its darker with a darker background when in reality the picture is of the device in a different spot.

This is blatantly false. These are the exact same places in the video, and their darkness clearly changes as the settings cause the object's darkness to change:

Jellyfish UFO from TMZ's 'UFO Revolution'

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojotsKjshHc [The above is a summary video of points from this thread] Source: https://tubitv.com/movies/200044921/s01-e01-the-breakthrough Higher quality video: https://www.metabunk.org/f/Jellyfish 720p High.mov Video viewer...

www.metabunk.org

And these are also the exact same places:

And again, why would you post pictures when we all have video? You can give a time stamp.

I gave you a time stamp for the video both times.


The first screenshots are from a 1-second clip pulled out by the metabunk folk, where they take it backwards/forwards clearly showing the background change. I already linked it right before I pulled out the screenshots.

That is a lie, and was one of the very first claims debunked by Metabunk. In the wide view, you can clearly see the background getting lighter and darker as the object gets lighter and darker. The only reason it isn't obvious in some views is because you're cropped in too close to see the full background and the camera's constrast settings cause some aspects of the background not to change as much as the subject does.

Jellyfish UFO from TMZ's 'UFO Revolution'

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojotsKjshHc [The above is a summary video of points from this thread] Source: https://tubitv.com/movies/200044921/s01-e01-the-breakthrough Higher quality video: https://www.metabunk.org/f/Jellyfish 720p High.mov Video viewer...

www.metabunk.org

The second screenshots are from the OP video. I already gave you the exact time stamps.

@AngryBaby, you can see the obvious background changes in the very first video clip Corbell used, even though it's cropped so tightly that it becomes very difficult to see the background consistently in multiple shots. Here's a four second sequence from 0:13 to 0:17 in the OP video:

Why do you keep asking me to prove things I've already proven?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Uhh when something is unidentified then you literally can pose that as evidence of your theory.... that's how theories work brah.

An unidentified flying object that either has some strange body makeup, or physics, or propulsion is literally evidence. It's not hard brah.

But none of that has been satisfied yet. I'm still waiting for anyone to post ONE video of an object that was a body shape we can't easily create, a "physics" we don't know, or "propulsion" we can't easily create. I've challenged y'all to produce that several times, and we're still waiting.

Every time someone has claimed one of those things, it turned out just to be the result of camera settings or an optical illusion like parallax. There hasn't been a single video produced that actually showed physics/propulsion we can't replicate or any shape we can't make. People keep claiming such videos exist, but we remain at "trust me bro" level.

Now that sounds incredibly stupid

that's a theory no matter how dumb

And yes this is a dig on how stupid that theory

I'm not the one who believes a clearly inanimate object is an alien just because the dark/light camera settings were fiddled around.

Are you even willing to admit that that the settings are changing and not the temperature, breh?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Thats why its bizarre/exhausting arguing with the guy. Just overall comes off as a grandiose lack of faith in everyone elses critical thinking ability.

Breh, you're the one who refuses to believe the background is changing color no matter how many ways I show you.

I did HAVE faith in your critical thinking ability, otherwise I wouldn't have gone to the work to post the evidence. Now I'm losing faith.

But tremendous faith in his own, and doctrine/websites comprised of those that will already confirm his world view.

He thinks we're the biased ones lol when hes on metabunk.

I don't need "faith" when they show EVIDENCE. They (and I) have directly shown the explicit evidence for what they're saying every time. Where did it ever rely on "faith"? I haven't taken their word for anything, I only repeat things they have explicitly demonstrated the evidence for.

 

[jaydawg08]

But none of that has been satisfied yet. I'm still waiting for anyone to post ONE video of an object that was a body shape we can't easily create, a "physics" we don't know, or "propulsion" we can't easily create. I've challenged y'all to produce that several times, and we're still waiting.

Every time someone has claimed one of those things, it turned out just to be the result of camera settings or an optical illusion like parallax. There hasn't been a single video produced that actually showed physics/propulsion we can't replicate or any shape we can't make. People keep claiming such videos exist, but we remain at "trust me bro" level.







I'm not the one who believes a clearly inanimate object is an alien just because the dark/light camera settings were fiddled around.

Are you even willing to admit that that the settings are changing and not the temperature, breh?

Be stupid brahs, and not understand how theories work

Challenged us? Why would you be challenging us as normal citizens lol, the government/military and pilots around the world have been vocal about this and provided evidence, and some of that evidence has made its way to online and mainstream and been declassified. The people on this site do not have access to all the footage around the world regarding this subject.

We do have some evidence of these types of things with weird shapes/propulsion/physics.. It's eyewitness testimony, from a myriad of sources. Once again, some of y'all need to actually look into a dictionary or something, because y'all seem to have a hard ass time understanding what evidence is.

But if you're looking for a video, then hey you're in luck!! Because people interested in this topic are apparently reaching out to their government officials and letting their concerns be known in order to released these classified photos/videos that some in Congress have already seen. And because of doing so, we were able to find out via a SCIF, that some of these accusations by Grusch has merit. So hopefully we get more to the bottom of what these things are.

Now I won't shoot down any theory that sounds valid, and an alien/NHI sounds just as plausible as a spider skin floating in the air being tracked by a IR camera as it falls into the lake.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

an alien/NHI sounds just as plausible as a spider skin

The obvious issue being that spider skins are produced 2 billion times every second, while not a single alien has ever been verified even once.

If you can't factor base rate probabilities into your reasoning, you will always have faulty reasoning. The ONLY way that an alien could be "just as plausible" as a spider skin or balloons is if the evidence for alien was literally billions of times stronger than the evidence for a mundane object.

floating in the air being tracked by a IR camera as it falls into the lake.

I don't know give a shyt about "Trust me bro" evidence. Show me the actual evidence and then I'll factor it in. I've already proven that Jeremy Corbell and others are lying about one aspect of the video, why should I believe them about anything else?

The fact that all of you still refuse to admit the settings are changing, and not the object's temperature, is wild.

 

[jaydawg08]

The obvious issue being that spider skins are produced 2 billion times every second, while not a single alien has ever been verified even once.

If you can't factor base rate probabilities into your reasoning, you will always have faulty reasoning. The ONLY way that an alien could be "just as plausible" as a spider skin or balloons is if the evidence for alien was literally billions of times stronger than the evidence for a mundane object.





I don't know give a shyt about "Trust me bro" evidence. Show me the actual evidence and then I'll factor it in. I've already proven that Jeremy Corbell and others are lying about one aspect of the video, why should I believe them about anything else?

The fact that all of you still refuse to admit the settings are changing, and not the object's temperature, is wild.

Considering that these IR cameras are literally designed to look past bugs, and splatter, and mud, and actual objects on the camera like tape or something stuck on it... so the thing that the IR is designed to not look at, it apparently looked at this one time. Even though it doesn't even track like a spider skin, or move like a spider skin falling lol. Now if you said a balloon, now that would make sense and a likely candidate. But you said a spider skin. So unfortunately that goes in the same bucket as the alien theory.



You do give a chit about "trust me bro" evidence because when those threads are posted here, it's a guarantee that you're right up in the thread letting your feelings known lol. Lets be honest... you didn't prove anything. You read it from MetaBunk and just copy/pasted from there.

But like I said you're in luck! There is growing support for evidence to be released to the public, and the ICIG and Congress are aware of certain things that we previously weren't in this subject, thanks to Grusch. I know you're very uninformed on him and that topic

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I know you're very uninformed on him and that topic

Why do y'all continuously lie about me? It doesn't make you look better or convince anyone that you're right.



Now, are you willing to admit yet that the background is changing color in perfect sync with the object, and thus the settings are clearly what's changing, not the temperature? And thus Jeremy Corbell is clearly speaking falsely about what the video shows?

If you can't agree to that basic, well-demonstrated fact, then there's no reason for anyone with honest intentions to engage you on this subject at all.

 

[jaydawg08]

Why do y'all continuously lie about me? It doesn't make you look better or convince anyone that you're right.



Now, are you willing to admit yet that the background is changing color in perfect sync with the object, and thus the settings are clearly what's changing, not the temperature? And thus Jeremy Corbell is clearly speaking falsely about what the video shows?

If you can't agree to that basic, well-demonstrated fact, then there's no reason for anyone with honest intentions to engage you on this subject at all.

Im going to give you the benefit of the doubt, that you're mistaking me for someone else. Cause I've never made comments about the temp changes..

 

[Lord Beasley]

nah this is clearly bullshyt



there are people in this vid and they dont pause or seem to be concerned. it appears as if they dont even see it.

 

[jaydawg08]

nah this is clearly bullshyt



there are people in the frame and they dont pause or seem to be concerned. it appears as if they dont even see it.

That's the story about this thing, and later supposedly confirmed by someone who was stationed there at a later date

People weren't able to see the object on the ground cause it was night.

There apparently might be another video with a different viewpoint and a longer version out there

 

[3:30]

Thank God for the few smart people on this forum

Y’all doin the Lords work

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Im going to give you the benefit of the doubt, that you're mistaking me for someone else. Cause I've never made comments about the temp changes..

You posted a video from a notorious grifter who is clearly lying about what the video shows. And when I poke holes in it, you go at me and lie about me, but refuse to criticize him.


I'm still waiting to see if you'll acknowledge that the claims he makes about temperature changes are clearly false. If you can't acknowledge that, then no one has any reason to continue engaging with you as an honest participant in the conversation.