Jellyfish UFO's captured on military weapons camera

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Went to quote @AngryBaby's posts from the thread and accidentally saw that before we got into it, he had already responded to mulitple other posters the same way he responds to me. At least I see it's a pattern now and not personal.

And notice those people didnt put much thought into and were intellectually lazy regarding this lol you are basically a longwinded version of that. Going great lengths to satisify your biases.

Similar to a religious person



Because in the rare moments that you haven't just been whining about how I post,

No no no, Im calling you out for your arguments being in bad faith. Which I explained before. We can kill two birds with one stone here. Everyone here knows you are someone who has a almost autistic like bias towards this subject and will predictably come into these subjects trying to parrot an idea from debunking sites.

Gaslighting anyone who notices, into believing they MUST be pushing an agenda. Its bad faith. And obviouslu biased being that you said your method was to visit a debunking site for neutrality rather than a neutral forum that has little to do with debunking.

Sidenote: This is more of a battle of attrition with you than anything else. You post ALOT until someone doesnt have the time anymore to participate lol

I posted those histories to prove that both of your assumptions are invalid. There are plenty of times when experts miss the obvious explanation. And there are plenty of reasons the military can have for not publicly divulging what they've found. Until THEY actually tell you they've dismissed that explanation, and why, then you have zero basis by which to claim they've dismissed it.

Just because it has been overlooked once, or even 3 times. doesn't mean it isn't less likely that they haven't vetted that scenario versus you being the one do so.

And that was the original question to you, which one is more likely? Thats all I asked you. You've yet to answer that.

I mean hell the core premise of you even bringing those things up is to say "see! It happens sometimes!" Not most times. Not 50% of the time. Not 25% of the time.

And if you say that because of that scenario your guess is just as *likely* as them haven't vetting it, then you are delusional.



Your posts, over and over, assume that the military has already dismissed all of my potential explanations, and done so accurately. You have zero evidence for either.

Based on the footage given, it's more likely to assume there is an object there of some sort than there is a smudge. Based on the visual cues, the distance, etc. I'd argue you are *reaching* more so if you try to genuinely say that what you SEE there is a spider or a smudge.

So to vehemently argue that it is one, seems disingenuous considering you dont have evidence and thats not what is visually apparent to the majority.
 
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Today was the classified UAP hearing in Congress and one of the Congressman said Grusch wasn't lying :damn:



And it looks like another hearing is gonna be scheduled. I wonder if it'll be public :lupe:

 

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Still no bodies, ships, or pieces of physical evidence. Just stories and blurry photos/videos......like a creepypasta from 2004.

Someone contact @Luken so he can make a clear Photoshop of a spaceship. Just make sure any letters on it are centered and use the same font.​
 

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Everyone here knows you are someone who has a almost autistic like bias towards this subject


It's 2024 and you're still using "autistic" as an insult. Do better. :francis:






Just because it has been overlooked once, or even 3 times. doesn't mean it isn't less likely that they haven't vetted that scenario versus you being the one do so.

And that was the original question to you, which one is more likely? Thats all I asked you. You've yet to answer that.

I mean hell the core premise of you even bringing those things up is to say "see! It happens sometimes!" Not most times. Not 50% of the time. Not 25% of the time.

And if you say that because of that scenario your guess is just as *likely* as them haven't vetting it, then you are delusional.


Breh, I've give 6 major, direct examples of my position holding true (the flies video, IB6830, GoFast, FLIR, Gimbal, and the "mystery missile"), you've given NOTHING. You haven't given ANY evidence that the military has already discounted possibilities or holds a particular informed view on this video.

That's what's so fukking wild. You sit here claiming, "There's no way they haven't already ruled out your scenario, the military doesn't move like that," I give you one example after another of them moving like that, and all you can reply is, "I don't believe you, you need more people."

You've given zero evidence for your claim that the military already pre-vets all these videos and conclusively rules out all mundane answers. Zero. None. It's just an article of faith for you like a religious person.




Based on the footage given, it's more likely to assume there is an object there of some sort than there is a smudge. Based on the visual cues, the distance, etc. I'd argue you are *reaching* more so if you try to genuinely say that what you SEE there is a spider or a smudge.


But I AM arguing there is an object there, just that we don't know the distance. :dahell:

As I pointed out before, I don't know whether it's something hanging from the housing, or something floating through the air. I posted examples of balloons possibilities in my very first posts in the thread before people here got obsessed with the spider possibility. At this point I'm not favoring either one, the resolution is so poor and information in the video so limited that you can hardly tell anything.

But what we CAN tell is that the object doesn't do shyt, displays zero anomalous behavior, and never once does anything other than float along in a straight line at what appears to be consistent with the prevailing wind speed. Which gives us zero reason to assume it's anything other than a normal everyday event.
 

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Today was the classified UAP hearing in Congress and one of the Congressman said Grusch wasn't lying :damn:



And it looks like another hearing is gonna be scheduled. I wonder if it'll be public :lupe:


I see this got overlooked

Congress just had a classified briefing with the Inspector General in regards to military officer and whistleblower Grusch has claimed, with all of them coming out of the briefing saying dude has legit and credible claims, but gets overlooked… shocking
 

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It's 2024 and you're still using "autistic" as an insult. Do better. :francis:

Not even an insult. An observation. I have a sibling on the spectrum, and your repetitive consistency within every "alien" thread, and when you posted 3 pages of arguments while everyone was sleeping was something that reminded me of his own tendencies lol I know spectrum when I see it.

So basically you chose delusion. Because with the "6 occurances" that have little to do with this jellyfish vid you posted, you think that makes the probability of corbell's team, and the military, as well as video experts that have already weighed in on it not being a smudge or something connected to the device...50/50 with you figuring out it's a spider on the housing?

The reticle moves independent of the object, when the object changes tenperature the objects in background do not *ruling out camera fiddling), the size of the object changes with distance etc. You can see all of that in the video. It makes no sense to conclude its a spider.

Also, looks like grusch was deemed credible. Didn't you also say awhile back that hes probably just crazy? Another argument that relied on incompetence?
 

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That shyt is probably a Chinese drone
 

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Today was the classified UAP hearing in Congress and one of the Congressman said Grusch wasn't lying :damn:



And it looks like another hearing is gonna be scheduled. I wonder if it'll be public :lupe:


Show me some real shyt, otherwise all I care about is fixing this shytty economy. Unless ET rode his ass here on a stimulus package he can stfu too
 

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I want to point out that, yet again, you are single-mindedly focused on how I discuss the incident instead of wanting to actually talk about the incident. It's pretty ridiculous that of the two of us, I've spent 10x as much space talking about the actual UFO videos, while you've devoted nearly all of your comments to just insulting and attacking any poster with a different view than you.



Not even an insult. An observation. I have a sibling on the spectrum, and your repetitive consistency within every "alien" thread, and when you posted 3 pages of arguments while everyone was sleeping was something that reminded me of his own tendencies lol I know spectrum when I see it.

I posted 5 comments, not "3 pages", the first of which were a direct reply to you and the next 4 which recounted a series of previous UFO incidents. That's not "autistic", it's just thorough. As someone coming at this from an academic science perspective, I was taught to base my views on established evidence, not on assumptions and hot takes. Brandolini's law comes into effect here - it's easy not to post as much when you make no effort to support your bullshyt with evidence.

So far as "not even an insult", this is what you said:

Im calling you out for your arguments being in bad faith. Which I explained before. We can kill two birds with one stone here. Everyone here knows you are someone who has a almost autistic like bias towards this subject and will predictably come into these subjects trying to parrot an idea from debunking sites.

Yeah, that clearly wasn't meant to be derisive. :mjlol:




So basically you chose delusion. Because with the "6 occurances" that have little to do with this jellyfish vid you posted, you think that makes the probability of corbell's team, and the military, as well as video experts that have already weighed in on it not being a smudge or something connected to the device...50/50 with you figuring out it's a spider on the housing?

STOP. LYING.

"The military" has said no such thing. "The military" has not stated their position on this video at all. YOU have continuously evoked the military when they have not even stated that they investigated the incident in depth or came to any particular conclusion.




when the object changes tenperature the objects in background do not *ruling out camera fiddling)

That is a lie, and was one of the very first claims debunked by Metabunk. In the wide view, you can clearly see the background getting lighter and darker as the object gets lighter and darker. The only reason it isn't obvious in some views is because you're cropped in too close to see the full background and the camera's constrast settings cause some aspects of the background not to change as much as the subject does.

 

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Also, looks like grusch was deemed credible. Didn't you also say awhile back that hes probably just crazy? Another argument that relied on incompetence?

I have repeatedly said from the very beginning that I think Grusch is telling the truth on several points.

1. I believe that the military has a secret craft recovery program, or at the very least recovers various crafts (our own top-secret craft, other countries' top secret craft, etc.) and keeps much of it top secret

2. I believe that the things Grusch is saying are really things other people told him. He might be exaggerating his certainty about the conclusions, but I don't think he's making the stories up.

3. I believe that Grusch was retaliated against when he started making threats to expose secret programs.


If Grusch is being credible in his allegations of retaliation, or credible in having exposed the existence of a top secret program outside of Congressional oversight, or credible in that it has been confirmed that he was really told the stories he was told, then none of that is a surprise to me or gets us any closer to aliens. We have not seen the slightest credible evidence from anyone yet that "alien bodies and crafts" specifically or "NHI" more generally are in military possession.
 
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