Jay z was cringe worthy around this time with cacs

[JustCKing]

What does that have to do with my original point? Jay is a wave rider. If it weren't for Ye keeping him musically relevant, all he would be is Beyonce's husband at this point. Ye is far more relevant that Jay, period. Ya'll overrate him. He's no rap godfather. All he does is passively aggressively rap about how much better he thinks he is than you.

Breh, Jay Z was already Jay Z before any of you knew Kanye and back when Beyonce was just a member of Destiny's Child.

It wasn't until Jay Z that Kanye had a hit record. Kanye's first time rapping on a major album was Jay's BP2. Kanye got a Time magazine cover because Jay declined and told them to put Kanye on instead. Most of Jay Z's biggest hits and records have NOTHING to do with Kanye. Jay Z's MCHG was a higher seller than Ye's Yeezus and had NOTHING to do with Kanye. American Gangster is Jay's last critically acclaimed album and that had NOTHING to do with Kanye.

Ya'll love rewriting history.

 

[KillerB88]

Breh, Jay Z was already Jay Z before any of you knew Kanye and back when Beyonce was just a member of Destiny's Child.

It wasn't until Jay Z that Kanye had a hit record. Kanye's first time rapping on a major album was Jay's BP2. Kanye got a Time magazine cover because Jay declined and told them to put Kanye on instead. Most of Jay Z's biggest hits and records have NOTHING to do with Kanye. Jay Z's MCHG was a higher seller than Ye's Yeezus and had NOTHING to do with Kanye. American Gangster is Jay's last critically acclaimed album and that had NOTHING to do with Kanye.

Ya'll love rewriting history.

Lol. Samsung bought 1M copies of MCHG and gave it away for free... I mean really. You think nikkas forgot about that?

 

[Izanami]

Breh, Jay Z was already Jay Z before any of you knew Kanye and back when Beyonce was just a member of Destiny's Child.

It wasn't until Jay Z that Kanye had a hit record. Kanye's first time rapping on a major album was Jay's BP2. Kanye got a Time magazine cover because Jay declined and told them to put Kanye on instead. Most of Jay Z's biggest hits and records have NOTHING to do with Kanye. Jay Z's MCHG was a higher seller than Ye's Yeezus and had NOTHING to do with Kanye. American Gangster is Jay's last critically acclaimed album and that had NOTHING to do with Kanye.

Ya'll love rewriting history.

Kanye superstardom helped Jay stay relevant commercially. Justin Timberlake sophomore album was highly anticipated and Jay used that to his advantage and toured with him too. Just like Jay use Kellz, Jay used Rihanna, Jay used Beyoncé etc.

Jay wouldn’t be as revered by the MBDTF era of rap fans 2010-2020 if it wasn’t for Ye.

 

[kwazzy100]

Kanye superstardom helped Jay stay relevant commercially. Justin Timberlake sophomore album was highly anticipated and Jay used that to his advantage and toured with him too. Just like Jay use Kellz, Jay used Rihanna, Jay used Beyoncé etc.

Jay wouldn’t be as revered by the MBDTF era of rap fans 2010-2020 if it wasn’t for Ye.

This.
I first liked MCHG when it came out, but it got stale FAST. One thing that got me is that Jay already made an album talking about his success and hardships on Watch The Throne, so why another project talking about the same thing?
It was Ye that brought in the fancy art rap, not Jay.
It was also Ye that was the first to talk about Jay's secret affairs, not Beyonce.

 

[The_Dread_Dormammu]

"Now I got tattoos on my body" ....Really Hov?

 

[JustCKing]

Kanye superstardom helped Jay stay relevant commercially. Justin Timberlake sophomore album was highly anticipated and Jay used that to his advantage and toured with him too. Just like Jay use Kellz, Jay used Rihanna, Jay used Beyoncé etc.

Jay wouldn’t be as revered by the MBDTF era of rap fans 2010-2020 if it wasn’t for Ye.

Breh, Kanye's superstardom didn't help Jay Z as Kanye's own star was fading during that period largely due to him singing instead of rapping and the whole Taylor Swift debacle.

Breh, 20/20 Experience was JT's third solo album, not his sophomore effort. Jay Z was featured on the lead single, which was the first single Justin had released in years. This wasn't the other way around.

Yes, he toured with him? Both JT albums, Jay Z's MCHG, Beyonce's self titled album, and some of a Nas album were recorded in the same Jungle studio during the same period in 2012-2013. There are pictures confirming this.

Jay Z discovered Rihanna and signed her. He was featured on the song that catapulted her career ("Umbrella").

Beyonce launched her solo career with Jay Z collaborations.

Know what you are talking about before you post. If you don't know, ask or do the research.

 

[JustCKing]

This.
I first liked MCHG when it came out, but it got stale FAST. One thing that got me is that Jay already made an album talking about his success and hardships on Watch The Throne, so why another project talking about the same thing?
It was Ye that brought in the fancy art rap, not Jay.
It was also Ye that was the first to talk about Jay's secret affairs, not Beyonce.

This is FALSE. Listen to "Holy Grail" and much of MCHG. Jay Z addressed the affair on that album.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Now jay turned into a GodBody and esotoric Muslim..

Walking comic book.

 

[Killalex]

Hipster Hov was a bad vibe. MCHG was ass too.

 

[JustCKing]

Lol. Samsung bought 1M copies of MCHG and gave it away for free... I mean really. You think nikkas forgot about that?

It still sold over a million copies WITHOUT counting the Samsung deal. A lot of you are allergic to FACTS.

 

[IS08]

wah wah wah... the same satanist who begged him for money after this video... why didn't she just do another ritual and make it rain?



we know how he got the opportunity to join the billionaire club. it wasn't a fukking ritual it was business on paper with an actual paper trail like you know investments that grow and are documented. he didn't pop up rich overnight with no backstory so you CAN'T act like it's a mystery idiot

read opportunity, dumbass. Where does it say it was handed to him on a plate? She's associated with high ranking elite like Bill Gates and the Clintons so the Camel participating in one of her ''satanic performances'' definitely helped him level up. Another camel loving STAN without reading comprehension.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

read opportunity, dumbass. Where does it say it was handed to him on a plate? She's associated with high ranking elite like Bill Gates and the Clintons so the Camel participating in one of her ''satanic performances'' definitely helped him level up. Another camel loving STAN without reading comprehension.

idiot Said associated with but she isn't a billionaire herself.

poor stupid people believe in all that shyt

 

[Greenhornet]

Relax.
1.) Kanye was much stronger on that album than Jay.
2.) That Kanye stimulus is the main reason Jay is still as relevant as he is.

Jay is infinitely better thank Kanye
Dropping hit songs since Kanye was 13
Actually writes his own songs
Put Kanye on, not the opposite

Kanye hasnt put out a great album in awhile
Ye was kind of bunk
Jesus is kind was forgettable
Even Life of Pablo was good, but he's talking about fukking bytches on his laptop and his friend stole his porno
His arrangements and executive producing is good, but lets not act like Jay wasnt executive producing Kanye before this, to even give him a career
I'm not even a huge Jay fan since volume 3.... I dabble in his albums and enjoy them but I'm not gonna sit here and say a dude that doesnt write his own music is better than a legend who's been rapping since late 80s
plus how you gonna pick Kanye and Jay album out of the whole discography I listed, when that shyt was 10 years ago. You actually think Kanye carried Jay's career for the past 10 years off Otis?



nikkas are retarded on this site, like I said I'm not even a Jay fan like that....dude controls the game and dropped a classic record while Biggie and Pac were both alive... if it wasnt for Diddy milking his man's death... we would have been ushered right into the Jay era immediately. Big knew it while he was alive, pac knew it from starting to attack Jay... the facts are all there. This is coming from a Pac and Nas fan, basically all of Jay's albums are near classic and he's a cultural icon above all but maybe 3 people in hiphop. He's easily going to go down as the longest running, most successful business men and rappers in the game of all time if not ever. Biggie, Pac, Kanye, Nas etc none of that shyt would have derailed anything Jay did. He literally put out his last album with the dude who taught Kanye how to make beats, I'm sure Jay and the rest of the world would have survived easily if Kanye never made music. Not taking anything away from Ye because I love him and his music, but cats were here before and after Kanye

 

[IS08]

idiot Said associated with but she isn't a billionaire herself.

poor stupid people believe in all that shyt

he wasn't a billionaire himself then, fool.

You gotta do weird/gay shyt to level up. Just the way it goes. You're an idiot if you think otherwise.

 

[Trajan]

The Jewish Hov era

The Carter administration Hov

Jay has these cringe phases every so often