Jay z was cringe worthy around this time with cacs

[KillerB88]

It still sold over a million copies WITHOUT counting the Samsung deal. A lot of you are allergic to FACTS.

Only thing I learned from this thread is how people will spin collaborations as wave riding or chasing coat tails. BUT, somehow it only applies to Jay Z. As if every rapper hasn't had a feature with a bigger artist on their song and ya'll say nothing. Prime example, is Jay Z even being featured on other people's songs being categorized "wave riding", but Kanye has had those same features and him doing it is labeled "genius". We really acting like Kanye didn't hop on auto tune after T-Pain and then Wayne made it hot? We really acting like Kanye didn't get Timbaland to re-do the drums on "Stronger" and "Good Life" after he saw 50 score a hit with "AYO Technology" which was co-produced by Tim? We really acting like Kanye didn't have Rihanna featured on one of his biggest singles in "All Of The Lights" (along with a "We Are The World" sized feature list on the same song)? We gonna act like Ye ain't have T-Pain on his album because T-Pain was one of the biggest artists out (Kanye's words)? We gonna act like Kanye didn't have DJ Toomp production after T.I.'s "What You Know" became a massive hit?

I could go on.

Breh no one is going to co-sign you. The common thread in all those examples is that Ye was the maestro behind those choices. He had a vision and melded their talents into his creations. Jay-Z just shows up, spits some brag bars and dips. It's not the same. No matter what you think of Ye outside of music, artists across many genres and generations have given him high praise for his talent.

 

[kwazzy100]

Third verse isn't about them either.

Why the fukk would Kanye speak in 3rd person after singing about himself? Why bring up Jay Z? Again, peep how he couldn't sing the 3rd verse live

 

[Ahadi]

BBC was a disappointing beat



I expected something completely different

 

[NYtymes]

Idk what y’all talking about, MCHG was dope to me

 

[head shots101]

Yo I can’t save gifs on my iPhone?

I use to do this on my Android

 

[JustCKing]

Why the fukk would Kanye speak in 3rd person after singing about himself? Why bring up Jay Z? Again, peep how he couldn't sing the 3rd verse live

Um maybe because "Blood On The Leaves" is much more cautionary tale than it is airing Jay Z's dirty laundry. He explicitly says

To all my second-string bytches, tryin' get a baby
Tryin' get a baby, now you talkin' crazy
I don't give a damn if you used to talk to JAY-Z
He ain't with you, he with Beyoncé, you need to stop actin' lazy

^^^ this addresses all second strings trying to come up off having a relationship with a celebrity. And this couldn't be about Jay's infidelity because the key word here is "used to talk to Jay Z" and him telling her and he's with Beyonce and basically get a job and stop trying to come up off another man's wealth.

In regard to him omitting Jay Z:

Kanye omits Jay Z's name from lyrics, prompting rumours of rappers' spat

^^^ He omitted Jay's name out of at least three songs during live performances.

 

[JustCKing]

Breh no one is going to co-sign you. The common thread in all those examples is that Ye was the maestro behind those choices. He had a vision and melded their talents into his creations. Jay-Z just shows up, spits some brag bars and dips. It's not the same. No matter what you think of Ye outside of music, artists across many genres and generations have given him high praise for his talent.

I could care less who co-signs it.

This is the idiocy I was referring to. Most artists put their own songs together up to and including pick the producers, selecting the beat, selecting the guests, writing their own songs, and even producing/co producing (even if they don't fight for the credits). Yet you're in here talking about Jay just shows up and spits a verse when we have footage that Jay does more than that and producers are on record talking about how Jay comes to the studio with ideas. Jay actually comes up with his own rhymes. Kanye has writers, yet he's some kind of a maestro.

 

[KillerB88]

I could care less who co-signs it.

This is the idiocy I was referring to. Most artists put their own songs together up to and including pick the producers, selecting the beat, selecting the guests, writing their own songs, and even producing/co producing (even if they don't fight for the credits). Yet you're in here talking about Jay just shows up and spits a verse when we have footage that Jay does more than that and producers are on record talking about how Jay comes to the studio with ideas. Jay actually comes up with his own rhymes. Kanye has writers, yet he's some kind of a maestro.

He didn't have any writers for Watch the Throne And as I previously stated, he was stronger than Jay on that album.

 

[kwazzy100]

Um maybe because "Blood On The Leaves" is much

Jay Z is 1 example of rich black men dealing with scandalous women. It was just to expose Jay, its telling a story about what he sees around him.

 

[Morethan1]

the gentrification rap era (wasn't just hov, jesus christ) was hella cringe and the picasso baby video typifies that. it's so pretentious i wanna throw a maltov cocktail at hov, the white hipsters, and all the shea butters in attendance. it's that bad to me son lol. but what was interesting about that era was how it coincided with hov and beyonce's buddy buddy relationship with chris martin and gwyneth paltrow. yall remember this nikka hov wearing an alan alda sweater, and horn rimmed glasses while holding hands with that white bytch and skipping down the beach like a lame? i was like wtf is this nonsense, c'mon man, not errol flynn hot like heroine. even when rich damn near wealthy, white validation is still a reality for some of our brothers and sistas

wish i could find the video, but i'm gonna say.... maybe around 2011 or so? there's a video of hov and beyonce doing white hipster cosplay. hov is sitting at a bar on a stool with super slow depressing acoustic cac music playing (perhaps a coldplay record? maybe not, i would have probably know it but anyways...) and while staring into hov's eyes, beyonce is standing & singing along with the record smiling while swaying side to side like a soul-less non-rhythm having cac chick. the head goes from side to side and the hair flops on either side as she sings, lol yall know what i'm talking about right? her hands are on hov's knees the whole time and he's looking at her like a mayosapien male with an expression of bemusement and feigned embarrassment like, "aww c'mon kirsten, not now. not here. lemme just enjoy my micro-brew in peace..." *as he chuckles and shakes head at his wacky girlfriend kirsten knowles*

doggie it was so white hipster cosplay i wanted to throw up. i immediately clicked out of the youtube video and threw on 7 day theory to cleanse and nourish my soul

@old boy

This shyt got me

 

[DaHNIC82]

That Demonic bytch must have scared him because that nikkah started growing dreads and dropping this shorty after

 

[JustCKing]

He didn't have any writers for Watch the Throne And as I previously stated, he was stronger than Jay on that album.

Breh, him being stronger on WTT is all opinion. You state it like its fact.

 

[KillerB88]

Breh, him being stronger on WTT is all opinion. You state it like its fact.

 

[JustCKing]

Jay Z is 1 example of rich black men dealing with scandalous women. It was just to expose Jay, its telling a story about what he sees around him.

So you're conceding to this song bot being about them.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

That's Marina Abramovic who a well known Satanist. Her demonic art consists of dead babies and blood baths. This was a blatant ritual but y'all asleep. Wanna know how Jay got the opportunities to join the billionaire club? Well links to these
sickos and participating in their activities certainly helped.

Y'all still amaze me with this shyt... She's a weirdo bytch doing some shock art for attention and fame... She ain't worshipping no damn satan and casting spells

It's 2020... come on brehs