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JAY Z named as codefendant in newest civil suit against Diddy
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The Prince of All Saiyans
Formerly Jisoo Stan & @Twitter
and this what got dame to where he is today
in local rib spot commercials and peddling fake jewellery in near dead malls
SadimirPutin
Superstar
Several thoughts
This tactic of coming decades later to make accusations is very shaky to me.....namely because physical evidentiary proof is likely paper thin at this point at best and possibly non existent tbh
This tactic of civil not criminal should raise eyebrows TO ANYONE......along with length of time...it reeks of shakedowns.
The internet LOVES to pick and choose who to believe abhorrent stuff about based on who they are a fan of......I am very skeptical of these claims but I AM NEUTRAL enough to give it a listen and let things play out. Jay-Z's statement and suit against Buzbee makes me think he is strong enough in his own convictions and legal advice
Proximity to Diddy really is going to hurt a bunch of people credibility, legality and monetarily wise....it's going to spawn a cottage industry of lawsuits and settlements.
This tactic of coming decades later to make accusations is very shaky to me.....namely because physical evidentiary proof is likely paper thin at this point at best and possibly non existent tbh
This tactic of civil not criminal should raise eyebrows TO ANYONE......along with length of time...it reeks of shakedowns.
The internet LOVES to pick and choose who to believe abhorrent stuff about based on who they are a fan of......I am very skeptical of these claims but I AM NEUTRAL enough to give it a listen and let things play out. Jay-Z's statement and suit against Buzbee makes me think he is strong enough in his own convictions and legal advice
Proximity to Diddy really is going to hurt a bunch of people credibility, legality and monetarily wise....it's going to spawn a cottage industry of lawsuits and settlements.
Thing is Jay been out of the public eye for so long that I'm not sure it does. If he wins this (which based on the attorney, he might), then Jay has enough cache still to spin the narrative back to "look how they try to destroy black men".
The reason why the Diddy shyt stuck was because it was an open secret anyway and the raids revealed dude was a complete pervert. With this Jay allegation, it's A LOT harder to prove.
The sheer number of photos from that night that are publicly available (and presumably the many that are privately held) will provide a pretty solid timeline for this case.
While I hope it’s not true - this is a fascinating case.
While I hope it’s not true - this is a fascinating case.
Not quite sure what you’re saying - but I agree with the second part.
Spoilation of evidence is a real thing here: there don’t appear to be: 1) any DNA records; 2) any medical examination records for signs of sexual assault or physical trauma; 3) any phone records from the accuser; 4) any police reports; 5) any outside individuals she contacted as witnesses (as of yet, aside from her father).
At the same time, this was a successor to a large event: 1) JAY Z can be confirmed to have been at various locations that night with accompanying photographs; 2) JAY Z will also likely have a calendar, a schedule, or a set of communications with staff on where he attended: 3) JAY Z will have witnesses that night; 4) he may even have old credit card receipts showing purchases at various clubs, bars, and venues that verify his whereabouts.
This is a monumentous effort of a civil case.
NobodyReally
Superstar
It's funny how people are OK with allegations of child abuse, sexual abuse, rape against the church and creepy olympics coaches and doctors decades later, but as soon as it's a popular celebrity, it's sus. Nobody is calling the women's olympic team a liar or the victims of the Catholic church. We've been through decades of these allegations and there's a ton of psychological and legal data that explains why victims don't feel safe coming forward right away. A 13 year old girl going to the police and/or her parents to explain Jay Z and Puffy sexually violated her, at the height of their popularity, is so unlikely. People come forward when they feel safe, when they have some distance from the incident, and definitely when they see other people have the courage to come forward. That's just how it goes and how it always goes. Also criminal charges have a time limit, civil charges do not, so yes, if the criminal statute of limitation has expired, the civil is the only recourse.
Shawn Carter’s problem isn’t our problem.
More specifically, you signed an agreement before entering into the mediation that the mediation itself is confidential. And then you can come to an agreement to settle including nondisclosure. Jay Z said fukk you and sued for extortion knowing the ramifications.
SadimirPutin
Superstar
Fair points
As I said I am neutral enough to listen as I have no dog in the fight.....
I think part of it is in all the examples you gave, church olympics etc, They were prosecuted on criminal charges for a crime.
People are usually on board with criminal charges,
In cases where its just a civil suit for money years later people get kinda sus about it
Moreover in civil suits, if i recall correctly the accuser has no burden of proof in a civil suit, Meaning they can accuse anybody of anything and have it go to trial. The defendant has to prove their innocence. With criminal cases, the accuser has the burden of proof and has to prove the guilt of the defendant.
richaveli83
Veteran
This is really unfortunate. Diddy has been a big socialte for decades. Almost every rapper, actor, professional athlete, and lesser extent politician has gone to his parties, took a picture with him, had business with him, etc. Now people will accuse anyone who met Diddy or took a picture with him of being involved in the freak offs and all kinds of wicked stuff.
Having a hard time wrapping my head around a 13 year old girl going to the VMA’s alone. Jay coming out swinging against the allegations makes me believe this all just a money grab from the lawyer. Of course people are gonna assume guilt because Jay immediately responded, you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t in that regard. The fact is even if it is completely false, people will still believe it and his rep is gonna take a hit.
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