JAY-Z ~ 4:44 (Discussion Thread)

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Save your breath trying to convince me as if what you're saying is factual when you're clearly just stating your opinion. You haven't spent nan session with dude to know exactly what his process is. You're just talking.

You're actually low key hating despite your disclaimers because you're tryna police props. "Freestyle" has a very broad definition in hiphop. We call written rhymes freestyles so I don't see the problem with calling what Jay does "freestyling" because that's basically what it is if the process is the way he and others describe it. If you create songs in your head on the spot just by listening to the best then that's a freestyle. Take the badge off and let people give dude his props.

What? How I'm the fukk am I hating or trying to discredit. I'm literally explaining to you how Hov explained his processs....he listens to beats...whether it's in the studio, or at home or wherever...creates lines...memorized those lines so they stick in his head....so that when it comes to the actually recording process he knows what to say. He doesn't wake up, stabs in front of s mic and records a song. He writes in his head as other rappers would on a piece of paper...his brain is his notepad, he doesn't gonoff the top like supernatural, him n biggie wrote songs in their head...not spit lyrics on the spot.

Good fukkin lord
 

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Save your breath trying to convince me as if what you're saying is factual when you're clearly just stating your opinion. You haven't spent nan session with dude to know exactly what his process is. You're just talking.

You're actually low key hating despite your disclaimers because you're tryna police props. "Freestyle" has a very broad definition in hiphop. We call written rhymes freestyles so I don't see the problem with calling what Jay does "freestyling" because that's basically what it is if the process is the way he and others describe it. If you create songs in your head on the spot just by listening to the best then that's a freestyle. Take the badge off and let people give dude his props.

I know its fun to shyt on Ak but he's actually right here. Hov has explained plenty of times that he does not freestyle in the "off the top of the dome" sense, but that hears the beat and starts arranging and putting together those verses in his head. thats why ppl always says he goes into this "rainman" mode, where he just starts mumbling shyt to himself. I dont think Ak was tryna hate bruh lol
 

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I know its fun to shyt on Ak but he's actually right here. Hov has explained plenty of times that he does not freestyle in the "off the top of the dome" sense, but that hears the beat and starts arranging and putting together those verses in his head. thats why ppl always says he goes into this "rainman" mode, where he just starts mumbling shyt to himself. I dont think Ak was tryna hate bruh lol
You dumb fukks can't read. I addressed everything you said here in the post that you quoted.
What? How I'm the fukk am I hating or trying to discredit. I'm literally explaining to you how Hov explained his processs....he listens to beats...whether it's in the studio, or at home or wherever...creates lines...memorized those lines so they stick in his head....so that when it comes to the actually recording process he knows what to say. He doesn't wake up, stabs in front of s mic and records a song. He writes in his head as other rappers would on a piece of paper...his brain is his notepad, he doesn't gonoff the top like supernatural, him n biggie wrote songs in their head...not spit lyrics on the spot.

Good fukkin lord
Calm your bytchass down and learn how to read. Neither one of you actually addressed what I said.
 

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What? How I'm the fukk am I hating or trying to discredit. I'm literally explaining to you how Hov explained his processs....he listens to beats...whether it's in the studio, or at home or wherever...creates lines...memorized those lines so they stick in his head....so that when it comes to the actually recording process he knows what to say. He doesn't wake up, stabs in front of s mic and records a song. He writes in his head as other rappers would on a piece of paper...his brain is his notepad, he doesn't gonoff the top like supernatural, him n biggie wrote songs in their head...not spit lyrics on the spot.

Good fukkin lord

You dumb fukks can't read. I addressed everything you said here in the post that you quoted.

Calm your bytchass down and learn how to read. Neither one of you actually addressed what I said.

There's obviously a discrepancy in how you two define freestyling. Back in the days it was just spitting bars to a beat that the dj dropped. Somewhere along the line the definition changes to being off the top.

In any event dude must've forgotten so many wild bars :to:
 

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You dumb fukks can't read. I addressed everything you said here in the post that you quoted.

Calm your bytchass down and learn how to read. Neither one of you actually addressed what I said.

Ight well peep this since you canttalk like a fukking adult: eat a dikk cocksucker, beat it
 

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There's obviously a discrepancy in how you two define freestyling. Back in the days it was just spitting bars to a beat that the dj dropped. Somewhere along the line the definition changes to being off the top.

In any event dude must've forgotten so many wild bars :to:
There's no "discrepancy" these cats are just bytchmade for no reason. For whatever reason cats here insist upon throwing rocks and hiding their hands. I get painted as an "angry" poster and all that but it's really more disgust and unfamiliarity than anger. I just don't understand the bytchassness and it disgusts me a lot of the times.

Like here @AkaDemiK is playing the fake self righteous hip hop purist role to police props people give to Jay about him "freestyling", in reference to his method of not writing and basically coming up with songs in his head sometimes on the spot. "Nah you can't say Jay freestyles now". Yet when it comes to other rappers he has no problem calling their prepared writtens freestyles. Here's a thread he made himself Victory Freestyle or Banks Workout???

Now how the fukk is that Banks victory verse a freestyle? Who knows how long it took him to write that shyt:heh: Nobody hesistates to call writtens from other rappers freestyles, but they swoop in when it comes to Jay. Why the difference in standards? Rhetorical question. Cats don't even understand themselves. Our society has become so feminized that men don't even realize that they've adopted feminine traits. It's all about men being led by their emotions.
 

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There's no "discrepancy" these cats are just bytchmade for no reason. For whatever reason cats here insist upon throwing rocks and hiding their hands. I get painted as an "angry" poster and all that but it's really more disgust and unfamiliarity than anger. I just don't understand the bytchassness and it disgusts me a lot of the times.

Like here @AkaDemiK is playing the fake self righteous hip hop purist role to police props people give to Jay about him "freestyling", in reference to his method of not writing and basically coming up with songs in his head sometimes on the spot. "Nah you can't say Jay freestyles now". Yet when it comes to other rappers he has no problem calling their prepared writtens freestyles. Here's a thread he made himself Victory Freestyle or Banks Workout???

Now how the fukk is that Banks victory verse a freestyle? Who knows how long it took him to write that shyt:heh: Nobody hesistates to call writtens from other rappers freestyles, but they swoop in when it comes to Jay. Why the difference in standards? Rhetorical question. Cats don't even understand themselves. Our society has become so feminized that men don't even realize that they've adopted feminine traits. It's all about men being led by their emotions.

This nikka is retarded. That banks freestyle was labeled a freestyle because he spit some bars on another nikka beat. Not because he did it off the top of his head. fukk is wrong with u remedial ass nikkas? You've never heard acrapper spittin over someone else beat called a freestyle? It's just a rap thing.

Now if you wanna get down to the actual act of free styling. There's only a few that can do it really well...acapella or over a beat. With that said....hov does not record songs on the spot off the top of his head. This is also taking nothing away from him...the way him n biggie created songs (lil Wayne too) by memorizing lines into verses over time before they get to the booth....is dope. But that's not what supernatural or king los does when nikkas ask em to freestyle.

Now stop catching feelings over a misunderstanding
 

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I know its fun to shyt on Ak but he's actually right here. Hov has explained plenty of times that he does not freestyle in the "off the top of the dome" sense, but that hears the beat and starts arranging and putting together those verses in his head. thats why ppl always says he goes into this "rainman" mode, where he just starts mumbling shyt to himself. I dont think Ak was tryna hate bruh lol

Lol this nikka is retarded. Hov one of my fav rappers ever.
 

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This nikka is retarded. That banks freestyle was labeled a freestyle because he spit some bars on another nikka beat. Not because he did it off the top of his head. fukk is wrong with u remedial ass nikkas? You've never heard acrapper spittin over someone else beat called a freestyle? It's just a rap thing.
The point was that people are very liberal with the term "freestyle" accept when they have an agenda to push. You chose to label bank's victory verse a freestyle in that thread that you made. Nobody forced your fakkit ass to call it a freestyle. You're inconsistent and full of shyt. You shouldn't have anything to say when people call what Jay does freestyling the same way that way that you don't have shyt to say when people call writtens freestyles. You're selective with how you police the term because you're lead by your emotions like a female.
 

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There's no "discrepancy" these cats are just bytchmade for no reason. For whatever reason cats here insist upon throwing rocks and hiding their hands. I get painted as an "angry" poster and all that but it's really more disgust and unfamiliarity than anger. I just don't understand the bytchassness and it disgusts me a lot of the times.

Like here @AkaDemiK is playing the fake self righteous hip hop purist role to police props people give to Jay about him "freestyling", in reference to his method of not writing and basically coming up with songs in his head sometimes on the spot. "Nah you can't say Jay freestyles now". Yet when it comes to other rappers he has no problem calling their prepared writtens freestyles. Here's a thread he made himself Victory Freestyle or Banks Workout???

Now how the fukk is that Banks victory verse a freestyle? Who knows how long it took him to write that shyt:heh: Nobody hesistates to call writtens from other rappers freestyles, but they swoop in when it comes to Jay. Why the difference in standards? Rhetorical question. Cats don't even understand themselves. Our society has become so feminized that men don't even realize that they've adopted feminine traits. It's all about men being led by their emotions.
:mjgrin: u acting like a lil bytch right now. What Jay does isn't freestyling and Ima hov Stan
 
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