Albums Jay Electronica - A Written Testimony (Discussion Thread)

[kdslittlebro]

Off first listen, a second listen is gonna be difficult Hov still has the ability to put out a good album tho imo

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

There's a mass amount of evidence for that. And Qubilah was around 4 or 5 when her father died so she's not gonna know all the intricacies. And this is pretty much a well known fact by people who have knowledge of the situation that there was F.B.I/C.I.A involvement, C.I.A booked the Audubon Ballroom the week prior, there was agents that infiltrated both N.O.I and Malcolm's organizations at the time and undercover operatives present too. Malcolm himself knew it was wasn't just N.O.I, there was people in the N.O.I that wanted to harm/kill him for sure, but the people that actually killed him were the goverment and they orchestrated the whole thing. There's an FBI letter that said they wanted to deal with him and saying what a threat he was. The evidence is really overwhelming, I hope it comes to light for more people, cause if people think it was just the N.O.I they are dead wrong, shyt was happening to Malcolm in whole other countries and continents where N.O.I didn't have reach and power, he was being constantly harassed and tapped by them, there are some tapes of it out there. They wanted to get rid of him and they did, not long after that they assassinated some of his key allies abroad too.

I’d love to read more about this. His words especially after that fire bombing was all about the NOI. He basically snitched on them on live TV. Then he gets shot and killed and all the sudden they was rogue. But I could be wrong. I’ve only ever saw it from Malcolms side

 

[Suspicions]

Yeah I remember that but I'm sure he also said he doesn't follow religion?

But one thing for sure is he spittin this nikka still got it

5 percenters are a philosophy not religion

 

[Suspicions]

I’d love to read more about this. His words especially after that fire bombing was all about the NOI. He basically snitched on them on live TV. Then he gets shot and killed and all the sudden they was rogue. But I could be wrong. I’ve only ever saw it from Malcolms side

You should watch who killed malcom x on netflix

 

[The Ruler 09]

I’d love to read more about this. His words especially after that fire bombing was all about the NOI. He basically snitched on them on live TV. Then he gets shot and killed and all the sudden they was rogue. But I could be wrong. I’ve only ever saw it from Malcolms side

You are wrong but it's all good because I understand how it's easy to be misinformed or come down that path.

In regards to the firebombing, that actually could have been members of the N.O.I or maybe even rankings officials within the Nation orders, I don't know about that for sure, it was from a dispute about the property, they were trying to evict Malcolm as they were saying it was theirs and reserved for the Mosque leader not for him specifically. Malcolm said he was gonna stop saying it was just N.O.I out to get him because there was things done that was way beyond their reach.

As I mentioned this topic is hugely in depth, I've studied it since a kid in a huge amount of depth, I can't even tell you how many books, files, videos, documentary's have seen and people I've spoken to with some knowledge about the situation.

As I imagine your attempts are sincere, I will try to quickly put you down a path that can expand the information for you, I don't know what you've read or seen already.

Of course The Autobiography Of Malcolm X is an essential read, the Manning Marable book on Malcolm is also worth reading as a companion piece to the autobiography, it's not the 100 percent full or accurate story but it has truth and depth within it that can give a fuller picture.

Also if you look into the murders, all of those arrested were innocent apart from the 1 who was caught. Also it's a necessity to look into the agents and counterintelligence bullshyt that was going on, it was rife with agents and informants. The police pulled back security from Malcolm when they knew he was in danger.

There's a vast array of information so I almost don't know where to start, but once you find out the accurate information you will see for yourself how much compelling evidence there is, it was the same in the King case.

There's 3 lectures Farrakhan did about the subject which went into depth, if you type into YouTube, Farrakhan and Malcolm X they should come up. These are all worth listening to, you have to watch and take in all 3, as they are different, even those there's more than that, but those 3 are essential.

There was an FBI recording online that was available too, I'm not sure if it's been removed now and there's also numerous files and documents on the situation.

The dude involved with Qubilah, Fitzpatrick, was supposed to be an informant also, Betty and Farrakhan ended up meeting and they both spoke at an event together.

Anyway I could go on about this for days but I hope it gives you something to work with and look into, there's numerous literature that broadens the picture of what really happened.

On a side note it's good a Hip Hop album has inspired such discussion and that shows the positivity and power music can have. Wouldn't be able to have this conversation about many albums, but here we can cause some depth to it. Hope that helps a bit, once you've done some of those things if you want to know more can lead you down some of those paths also.

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Listened to it when it dropped. Didnt want to have any hot takes on this one. Wanted to digest the project in totality.

Honestly, I have to say I'm disappointed. I don't think a single joint on this album in Exhibit C level. Some of the production is really poorly done imo. Worst song to me was Flux Capacitor. Had some high level bars, like this whole album did, but it was a sonic train wreck imo.

Not gonna slander it and troll and say it was trash, but I was expecting a lot more

 

[Crumple]

He would slap the rza for calling the south wack..then apologize after killah army threatened the beat shyt out of him..they found out where he lived in Brooklyn.

Jay during drunkard period tweeted Jean gray.. with perverted notes.

Man, that's not cool. Jean Grae? Not cool.

Lol about Killarmy about to attack him.
He never did near what Rza did for rap.
Peace to him tho.

 

[Animal House]

Album hasn't been out for a week, chill on the classic shyt. It's a great album. Only song I don't revisit much is the Travis one, which isn't even bad but feels like the end result of a compromise. Like you can almost feel like it was a track given to Jay Elect in hopes of mixing his sound with a more mainstream sound; throw in Travis for some streams and while not a single, you can tell if this wasn't a true labor of love the album would sound more like that track than the rest.

Shout outs to No ID and Alchemist btw. Both their beats fit the tone and sound of the album perfectly.

As I said a few days ago...I don't think his album would have come out if not for Hov getting on damn near every track.

I agree some albums you have to digest for a minute to fully get a understanding of what the artist is trying to do plus some of the lyrics need unpacking to get. This album is dope but I don’t know about it being a classic. Boldy imo still has the best album this year but I hold reservations because this one here is still growing on me

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

You are wrong but it's all good because I understand how it's easy to be misinformed or come down that path.

In regards to the firebombing, that actually could have been members of the N.O.I or maybe even rankings officials within the Nation orders, I don't know about that for sure, it was from a dispute about the property, they were trying to evict Malcolm as they were saying it was theirs and reserved for the Mosque leader not for him specifically. Malcolm said he was gonna stop saying it was just N.O.I out to get him because there was things done that was way beyond their reach.

As I mentioned this topic is hugely in depth, I've studied it since a kid in a huge amount of depth, I can't even tell you how many books, files, videos, documentary's have seen and people I've spoken to with some knowledge about the situation.

As I imagine your attempts are sincere, I will try to quickly put you down a path that can expand the information for you, I don't know what you've read or seen already.

Of course The Autobiography Of Malcolm X is an essential read, the Manning Marable book on Malcolm is also worth reading as a companion piece to the autobiography, it's not the 100 percent full or accurate story but it has truth and depth within it that can give a fuller picture.

Also if you look into the murders, all of those arrested were innocent apart from the 1 who was caught. Also it's a necessity to look into the agents and counterintelligence bullshyt that was going on, it was rife with agents and informants. The police pulled back security from Malcolm when they knew he was in danger.

There's a vast array of information so I almost don't know where to start, but once you find out the accurate information you will see for yourself how much compelling evidence there is, it was the same in the King case.

There's 3 lectures Farrakhan did about the subject which went into depth, if you type into YouTube, Farrakhan and Malcolm X they should come up. These are all worth listening to, you have to watch and take in all 3, as they are different, even those there's more than that, but those 3 are essential.

There's was an FBI recording online that was available too, I'm not sure if it's been removed now and there's also numerous files and documents on the situation.

The dude involved with Qubilah Fitzpatrick was supposed to be an informant also, Betty and Farrakhan ended up meeting and they both spoke at an event together.

Anyway I could go on about this for days but I hope it gives you something to work with and look into, there's numerous literature that broadens the picture of what really happened.

On a side note it's good a Hip Hop album has inspired such discussion and that shows the positivity and power music can have. Wouldn't be able to have this conversation about many albums, but here we can cause some depth to it. Hope that helps a bit, once you've done some of those things if you want to know more can lead you down some of those paths also.

Thank you and yes. Everything I said came from the heart. I’ve read Malcolm and Haley’s book, watched spikes movie and seen him portrayed in others. You go by what clips/hints the throw in there, with the times he blamed the NOI for it all, plus the hood news since then has pretty much been “the Muslims did it” and you land on my thought process.

I have heard the whole “fbi rented the place and autopsy shows it was shot from above” before. But it never came with the facts, references and honestly..... teachable way you speaking and not a “know it all” way.


So again. Thank you. I will be looking into all these as much as I can.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Thank you and yes. Everything I said came from the heart. I’ve read Malcolm and Haley’s book, watched spikes movie and seen him portrayed in others. You go by what clips/hints the throw in there, with the times he blamed the NOI for it all, plus the hood news since then has pretty much been “the Muslims did it” and you land on my thought process.

I have heard the whole “fbi rented the place and autopsy shows it was shot from above” before. But it never came with the facts, references and honestly..... teachable way you speaking and not a “know it all” way.


So again. Thank you. I will be looking into all these as much as I can.

Thank you, appreciate that, it's hard to tell tone online but no doubt. It's a pretty deep rabbit hole but 1 worth traveling cause end up picking up all kinds of knowledge and information which is practical to life in many situations. Respect bro, can PM me if anything else in future also want to discuss on the matter and will try to help if possible.

 

[Hammer]

still bumpin this hard. still amazing

 

[old boy]

my favorite joint seem to keep changing by the day. right now it's the opening crack rock ghost of soulja slim. which i knew was dope but not to this level. sometimes, not all the time, it takes a minute for me to fully ingest an album

and jay elec isn't normal. i'm sorry he just isn't

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Finally got the chance to give this a spin

Intro is dope

Hov Muslim or what?

No..not at all!
but his connection to quasi islam is not far fetched..he used to roll with the ansars back in the day with jaz..

 

[The Dust King]

Your name fits you , Dusty ass nikka

@mikishere
@DoJa
@TEH

listen to 50 year olds rap but call other men dusty

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

49 pages, sheesh