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Other than Podcasts... this album is all I’ve been listening to .. is that a problem
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Flux Capacitor is a favorite everywhere except the coli


Y’all gotta realize the coli isn’t real. It’s a bunch of nikkas playing characters for attention they lack in real life


These nikkas opinions are the minority, and often not even their actual opinions. They faking personalities g

you say the coli isnt real

but you and the 20 people who dapped you are on the coli :mjlol:



Bro it really is. The shyt that is said here is said no where else, ever and people act life their opinion is solid facts. Some are trolling but you can tell alot of these dudes never get out and just make shyt up to be cool. Mad weirdos

album is classic if you fall into one of these categories;

1. jay elec stan
2. jayz stan
3. never herd a conscious lp
4. practice islam

the jay elec I know has rare and deep talking points. here, it just seemed like a collection of rhymes, albeit personal, with some references to who jay elec was rather than being jay elec. kinda like that jay elec muslim flow reference on bam off 444. what I'm saying basically is I miss the grassy knoll raps, cause that's how I relate to jay elec.

this is EXACTLY how i felt. rep

I can cap, after listening for the past few days, Jay electronica’s debut might be the most disappointing debut album since Canibus.

People forget the hype around that first Canibus album because Wyclef gave him a dud but the hype around it was unreal. Canibus was trashing every guest appearance, every freestyle, he trashed LL & then dropped some bullshyt.

That’s not even saying it’s bad because I think it's a solid project. Still, we waited 12 YEARS to watch him get outshined by a 50 year old Hov who spent Jay's debut defying the laws of rap gravity showing he still has it by spitting triple entendres. I just expected more.....

This Jay Electronica album needed Just Blaze. Like none of the songs on this album are as good as Exhibit A, Exhibit C, Dear Moleskin or Better In Tune With The Infinite.

hit the target with this comparison. rep

also why he got 1 song from a decade ago but none of the better songs from same era? :shaq2:

My debut album featuring hov this is highway robbery
It's like I hit the lottery
I bust at the pinayati
Now I'm hot like a tomali
It's just like I caught a body

:scusthov:

sound like him and hov freestyled at some points. i didnt expect weak verses and got a bunch.

michael jackson scheme was weak af

It's his debut album and he didn't even spit the opening verse on the album. What kind of shyt is that?

EXACTLY stans really in here making excuses for this diet version of a debut

Just listen to dudes like Treach, LL, Ice Cube on modern records (not spitting classics) stuff sounds terrible.

havent herd L spit in a while but i herd treach and cube body records few years back so i dont kno what your talking about.

So he re-recorded some songs on his album finished in 2011, maybe recorded 2 new ones with Jay-Z,and had some touch ups done by whoever they brought in.........

This is what they put out? Color me shocked. This is good and listenable, but if we are recycling songs what happened to better in touch with ......
Where the other just blaze and Kanye songs?

Think his whole angle all along been the movie THE PRESTIGE like he told you, whole thing is a magic trick a slight of hand he was never that guy. He let you believe it. All the pro black and Muslim stuff but you an Illuminati Rothschild girls pet project?

Guy can rap though I give him that but this album will blend in and be forgotten in a week

this is a shared sentiment

went from 5% to bad boy to rocafella to rockefellers to NOI

Y'all are easily impressed. The rap game is so weak that people are going crazy over oversampling, Farrakhan talks and decent bars from 2 of hip hops most prominent figures. If it wasn't Jay Elect and Jay and it was 2 other dudes with the same beats and the same bars, nobody would blink.

I've been a Hov Stan my whole life and still in disbelief I woke up to a full legit Jay Electronica project but to be honest I could barely get through it.

i kept my feelings at a blank state as to not over expect and be let down

it was a let down all the way around

my highlight was gettin hov to spit on non traditional beats

The only people I see complaining about the production are people that became fans after Exhibit C.

For those of us that wore What The fukk is a Jay Electronica out before the rest of the world caught on, this is the album we wanted.

It’s a Jay Electronica album.



thats nothin like anythin on the album.

this is one way the internet has poisoned life

back in the g i imagine you could enjoy something within your circle without ever coming across those screaming hatefully for clout sake

must've been a beautiful thing

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this is a msg board where people share opinions.

its no more for clout than your screenname and posts with odd symbols in them

i dont assume its for attention, i assume it means sometin to you

im just a disappointed fan thas it breh

I'm enjoying the album. However, it's definitely a step back (lyrically) for Jay Elect. There's no denying that.

def not a wack album, its good. that stepback isnt just a step. felt like a flight.

Listened to it when it dropped. Didnt want to have any hot takes on this one. Wanted to digest the project in totality.

Honestly, I have to say I'm disappointed. I don't think a single joint on this album in Exhibit C level. Some of the production is really poorly done imo. Worst song to me was Flux Capacitor. Had some high level bars, like this whole album did, but it was a sonic train wreck imo.

Not gonna slander it and troll and say it was trash, but I was expecting a lot more

felt exactly the same. rep

Cats playing the age card while bumping the debut album of a 43 year old man.

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Fred.

thats exactly why i replied with that. my favorite is posters callin me dusty :mjlol:



Most of this site is fake young. Cats be like....30+ calling people washed up and dusty. :gucci:

shyt is wild to me fam. Actual young people (teens, early 20's) do not differentiate between 35, 45, and 55. All that shyt is equally :flabbynsick: to them. Probably hurt cats feelings saying that but :manny: it is what it is.

Fred.

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The super Nas stans are hating its as simple as that :dead:

your a tekashi stan. you dont get to create hot takes

Two of the main things Nas fans didn't like about Jay was his materialism and apparent lack of growth/maturity.

Now Jay has grown up.

And Nas is a venture capitalist.

At this point, if someone is still playing the Stan Wars shyt it's pretty pathetic.

But Coli gonna Coli.

saying a 50 year old man grew up seems like an insult to him and his fans

speaking for myself (queens born and raised)

i was always a fan of both and always thought jay was a GOAT from his debut.

my only problem with jayz was lyrics and content overtime.

he seemed to enter "cruise control" by the blueprint era
 

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this is a msg board where people share opinions.

its no more for clout than your screenname and posts with odd symbols in them

i dont assume its for attention, i assume it means sometin to you

im just a disappointed fan thas it breh

i wasn't thinking of it here on the coli making that statement.........it's mostly anonymous here i was talking about the other platforms people parade on*
 

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ONLY thing i’m holding “against” this album (meaning me just nitpicking) is I wish they would’ve went ahead and put Dear Moleskin and Better In Tune With The Infinite on the album.
theres nothing here that meets that bar.

"this is the album we wanted"
weve sat w/ songs like a prayer or mike vick and ti, who broke the levees, dimethyltryptamine, so what u saying, extra extra, victory is in my clutches for years. these songs arent of that caliber at all. not rapping wise or song wise.
brehs stanned and defended jay elec b/c arguably 'every line of ever verse of every song was quotable'
i listened to buddens take earlier this morning and he was right on when he said 'that man is not the man we hear on this album'. maybe it was too rushed. disappointing.
 

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I'm genuinely proud of Elec.

This a REALLY GOOD ALBUM!

I hope he stays active, personally I need this. And I think hip hop needs it too.

Said that to someone earlier, I’m proud her delivered a body of work many people are really enjoying, a lot of people completely counted him out like he’d never drop a project. That’s gone now no matter what happens from here.
 
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theres nothing here that meets that bar.

"this is the album we wanted"
weve sat w/ songs like a prayer or mike vick and ti, who broke the levees, dimethyltryptamine, so what u saying, extra extra, victory is in my clutches for years. these songs arent of that caliber at all. not rapping wise or song wise.
brehs stanned and defended jay elec b/c arguably 'every line of ever verse of every song was quotable'
i listened to buddens take earlier this morning and he was right on when he said 'that man is not the man we hear on this album'. maybe it was too rushed. disappointing.
Are you serious

Budden is a certified hater and was looking to pick this apart ... brother changed his style and instead of following you all lament about how it was 20 years ago
 

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So after a few plays, I've got mixed feelings about this not being a full Jay Electronica album but still happy to hear Jay-z in rare form.
A debut album is supposed to be the album that took your whole life to write, but rather this is probably Law, Guru and Jay kidnapping him for a month, pulling out some demos and this is the result.

Anyways, still a dope project, at least 4 5/5 tracks, on all of them I wish it was some more bars, at least another Elec verse or even one from both.


Will see how I feel in a few weeks, judging an album when you're hyped (or the opposite) is never a good judgement.
 
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ONLY thing i’m holding “against” this album (meaning me just nitpicking) is I wish they would’ve went ahead and put Dear Moleskin and Better In Tune With The Infinite on the album. Yes I know they are old but so is Shiny Suit Theory and that joint STILL goes hard.


That would have given us 12 tracks. Still short and sweet no filler and would have given Jay Elect a little more solo shine.



As it stands i’m willing to give this album a 4.5. I REALLY fukks with this album. I LOVE albums that are able to immerse me in certain moods or perspectives. This is an album that really makes me want to read The Autobiography Of Malcolm X, watch Spike Lee’s movie, look up Farrakhan speeches, and just really immerse myself in the mythology and history surrounding the Black Muslim movement.

Bolded is another important point for me, this album puts me in a spiritual, reflective, therapeutic and motivated mood, due to a mix of the production, lyrics and content. It's similar to like if I wanna hear some aggressive shyt can put on The Infamous or Hell On Earth, reflective street poetry Illmatic, lyrical shyt Capital Punishment and so on. So I feel like the album perfectly fulfills it's purpose which was meant to do cause was meant to uplift, heal and bring some substance, it does all those things for many without question.
 

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mikishere negged you for your post in the thread

Jay Electronica - A Written Testimony (Discussion Thread)

with the following comment; stay off the drugs you dikksucking stan


@mikishere got his burka in a buncha

this the type of emotional h0e ass feminine sh!t we as men gotta deal with online

old me wouldve invited you to an asswhoopin cuz im in the city everyday

but your a bird ngga and its all in how you move. eagles a good team for you
 

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More and more people see calling the album a classic....

People need to accept people have different opinions, I have no issue with somebody saying it isn't a classic to them, but we can't deny that many people feel it is, people are calling it classic all the time...

The people judge not the critics or The Coli....





























Masterpiece and classic are 2 of the most associated words have heard about the album. A.P.I.D.T.A is being heralded also. Another sentiment I've seen is refreshing and a breath of fresh air, I listen to a lot of great current Hip Hop so I hear great shyt all the time but I understand that and even among the dope shyt this has some uniqueness about it because you have an icon and legend in Jay-Z on a spiritual tip while still being witty and lyrical and sounding really hungry on some tracks. The chemistry between them both which I think is excellent, the style of Jay Electronica which isn't common to hear, even the choices he makes with like the samples they use and shyt, to hear this on an album with Jay-Z that features people like Travis Scott, The Dream etc give it a certain uniqueness. Content wise we don't always hear albums on this kind of platform and with this soundscape that are mentioning issues like Palestine, Jim Crow, Rumi, Adan, Bewitched even, you're getting a lot of different references that capture a time period but also have a relevant modern feel. It feels fresh and new but also with a touch of classic about it, timelessness.

Jay Elec even has a reference to Khomeini and the fataw he put out on Salman Rushdie, these references are not missed on me at all and they are littered throughout the album. It gives the album substance and depth because they are just not thrown in there, they are in context and purposeful. And it's all tided together in a theme of upliftment, a theme of hope, a theme of spirituality and power.

The pharasing is different, the lyricism is different, who would have thought in 2020 you'd hear this. To me this is what we should be hearing, expanding the genre and culture with knowledge and information that people can build upon. Not just hoes, money, clubs, drugs, shyt like that, that's why I understand the fresh air sentiment MANY have expressed. I haven't gone as long as them without that shyt but it still feels special and unique in it's own right.

It's positive also for the most part, it will stand the test of time on that. Just like how I feel Distant Relatives did. There's biblical references that add a certain gravitas to what's being said and some beautiful phrasing littered throughout, great lyricism which is potent, poetic and meaningful.

"The Lord is my rock, I speed dial through salat
My trials in the fiery crucible made me hot
I glow like embers of coal, born with a touch of gold

My mathematical theology of rhymin' a touch the soul"

I bolded that line because it really is a theology in a sense, he's touching people's souls with his calculated and scientific spiritual rhymes. That line further emphasizes that this was intentional and purposeful, this was his purpose and the comments shows he achieved it. The phrasing even in the other lines is very well done, metaphors mixed in with descriptive emotive language, he's trying to reach the people in many of the bars and succeeds.

I could talk about the album all day and break down every song but I won't do that quite yet, but...

Some of the cons, I suffered for prose
My poetry's livin' like the God that I fall back on
And all praises due to Allah for such a illustrious platform

The teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad's my backbone

Even a line like that, some of the cons I suffered the prose, that shyt is dope. He does the thing Jay-Z sometimes does which is like is have related themes in different parts of the rhymes to create cohesive thematic verses. No matter your religious persuasion the imagery throughout the album is impressive too, you don't have to be N.O.I to respect the commitment and sincerity in Jay Elec's beliefs and his dedication. A lot of powerful and great people had that throughout all walks of life and fields. Muhammad Ali and Malcolm X are 2 obvious 1's who for a very long time had the exact same inspirations when they were achieving great and historic things. So people don't have to agree with their ideology, I'm not N.O.I myself, but I do respect the faith and belief. It's not just about religion, it goes deeper than that into a spiritual realm and a human realm.

Jay-Z mentions Du Pont and Carnegi, there's really a lot to the album in a concise number of tracks, 9 with vocals.

The album lives up to it's name to me, it IS A Written Testimony from Jay Elec, obviously with Jay-Z adding on as a brother, but he's put emotion and thought into this shyt. He's not just saying any old shyt, sometimes shyt being concise is not a bad thing. I'd rather 10 tracks of dope or great than 19 tracks and 8 are good.

Jay Elec mentioned Ice, Harriet Tubman, Flint, it really is like a testament of what's important to him as a human being and what he represents within his parts on the album, that's why I feel it is a effective piece of art, it was with purpose and the intent was fulfilled in my opinion.

As I said could be discussed all day, but my point is the substance in the album and the craft are what will make it stand the test of time. There's a strong foundation that I believe won't crack but will only be appreciated more. Just a few off the top thoughts.
 
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Good album, maybe even very good. Definitely not classic lol people are crazy. Exhibit A and C are better than anything on here by a pretty wide margin.
 
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