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Rings and 3's!!!The analytic community and Skip Bayless should pay for their crimes for what they've done to basketball
Rings and 3's!!!The analytic community and Skip Bayless should pay for their crimes for what they've done to basketball
Why are you talking about Kerry kittles and them in a thread about kidd being overrated? Wtf does Ben Wallace have to do with Jason Kidd? The moment the eastern guards got better he became a memory. Props for our performing the ghost of Kenny Anderson and Jamal Tinsley . How'd he do against the Lakers? Every wing for LA shot > 51% vs them . 20 year old tony Parker dropped 26 on his head in a finals game where kidd shot 31% and scored 12.Why won't you do his teammates?
Funny how you don't mention that Pistons team had back to back DPOY Ben Wallace or that they had the best record in the Eastern Conference that season
Did you for one second think you were going to win an NBA title?Naw I can't roll with that. As a Nets fan he helped make us competive with a Frankensteins monster of a team composition. Any one who says he didn't make the team better doesn't realize we'd be a lottery team without him being a stabilizing force.
Dont act like he was a singular addition going into that year. The following players started at least 35 games:
Starbury
Keith van horn
Kmart
Evan eschmeier (???)
Luscious Harris
Stephen Jackson
Johnny Newman started 17 games
The next year:
Jason kidd
Kvh
Kerry kittles
Todd maculloh
Kmart
With Richard Jefferson playing in every game and coming of age
The whole team was better. Obvious kidd was a part of it but he definitely benefitted from the pistons, Celtics, sixers, Knicks, and cavs all being down and the pacers being in a brief retool mode. As soon as the other teams got their shyt together kidd was over. Like I said, Billups especially destroyed him in every game that mattered
Kmart rj and kittles and Rodney Rogers were the only players in double figures . They only scored 14 points the entire 1st quarter . They got sonned and nobody on that roster was the same again.
Kid was drafted in 1994. CP3 is 9 years youngerKid literally got murdered on defense during the 2008-2010 playoffs
Remember the chauncey and CP3 series
Yeah. The thing is dudes were raised by YTers and ESPN hot take shows, and since evey boy imitates his father...it adds up that dudes would parrot these shuck and jive tactics.....and post threads like this.Some horrible takes on J Kidd in this thread. Makes me wonder did you see him play, or ya'll just going the analytics route.
He's one of the best passers in NBA history, #2 all time in assists.
Struggled with his shot early in his career, but by the midpoint became a knock down 3 point shooter.
One of the smartest players in the league.
Played great defense.
In transition he was murder, but also knew how to orchestrate an offense in the half court. Had Kenyon Martin, Kerry Kittles, and Richard Jefferson looking like all stars.
And perhaps most importantly, always made his team better.
Ya'll outta pocket with the disrespect
Did you for one second think you were going to win an NBA title?
Breh that is hyperbole
THE most overrated?
Stop it. Most overrated player of the last 30 years? GTFOH he never won an MVP let alone back to back like Steve Nash.
- NBA champion (2011)
- 10× NBA All-Star (1996, 1998, 2000–2004, 2007, 2008, 2010)
- 5× All-NBA First Team (1999–2002, 2004)
- All-NBA Second Team (2003)
- 4× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1999, 2001, 2002, 2006)
- 5× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2000, 2003–2005, 2007)
- NBA Co-Rookie of the Year (1995)
- NBA All-Rookie First Team (1995)
- 5× NBA assists leader (1999–2001, 2003, 2004)
- 2× NBA Sportsmanship Award (2012, 2013)
Can you explain why he ran mid to lower level offenses? That’s the only thing anyone has pointed out in this thread as a critique.I am not sure why Jason Kidds offensive talents were brought up as a 1st topic. He was a traditional pass-first point guard. He had an awkward jumpshot from day 1. He wasn't drafted to be that.
He was drafted to facilitate to Jimmy Jackson and Jamal Mashburn. Any baskets he scored in transition were icing on the cake.
He was a great rebounder from the guard position. He saw the floor exceptionally well and got everyone involved.
Y'all are looking at his career in the context of what point guards transitioned to.
That says a lot breh. At his absolute peak at no point did you think Jason Kidd was a championship caliber pg, even as he went to the finals twice.No BUT Jason Kidd helped maximize the team's success and just about any Nets fan would say the same.
Completely not true. His middle to lower level offenses show that.but also knew how to orchestrate an offense in the half court
Why are you talking about Kerry kittles and them in a thread about kidd being overrated? Wtf does Ben Wallace have to do with Jason Kidd? The moment the eastern guards got better he became a memory. Props for our performing the ghost of Kenny Anderson and Jamal Tinsley . How'd he do against the Lakers? Every wing for LA shot > 51% vs them . 20 year old tony Parker dropped 26 on his head in a finals game where kidd shot 31% and scored 12.
His career is full of individual accolades and terrible playoff performances where better guards made him fold.
Why are you talking about Kerry kittles and them in a thread about kidd being overrated?
Wtf does Ben Wallace have to do with Jason Kidd?
How'd he do against the Lakers?
That says a lot breh. At his absolute peak at no point did you think Jason Kidd was a championship caliber pg, even as he went to the finals twice.