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[The Rainmaker]

There is a new Ingobernables team in Mexico. However, they are in AAA, so I don't think they will be appearing in NJ

How awesome would it be, tho

EVIL
BUSHI
SANADA
HIROMU
TAKAGI
RUSH
kross
LA PARK
y NAITO

 

[PlayerNinety_Nine]

There is a new Ingobernables team in Mexico. However, they are in AAA, so I don't think they will be appearing in NJ

How awesome would it be, tho

EVIL
BUSHI
SANADA
HIROMU
TAKAGI
RUSH
kross
LA PARK
y NAITO

Kross Thought he would be busy winding down before he leaves Impact

LA PARK might be one of my favourite old heads still doing it.

Edit: Konnan finessed his way into this as well?

 

[Legal]

Kross Thought he would be busy winding down before he leaves Impact

LA PARK might be one of my favourite old heads still doing it.

Edit: Konnan finessed his way into this as well?

I swear Konnan is in nearly every group in Mexico.

 

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I love how tiny of a shirt La Parka wears despite pushing 300 pounds

 

[WaveMolecules]

I've finally finished the 1970s of the All Japan Archive. Only took me idk 2-3 years I logged all the matches and rated them on a scale of Skippable, Skippable but interesting, Recommended, Highly Recommended.

The wrestler with the most Highly Recommended matches: At 27 highly recommended matches, Jumbo Tsuruta. Not much of a surprise, really.

Baba comes in 2nd with 17, however that's also not a big surprise as most of those matches involve Jumbo either in tags or their singles matches against each other.

What perhaps is a bit surprising is that Dory Funk Jr. has more highly recommended matches than Terry Funk (14 to 12). I would certainly say Terry is the most captivating performer even if he doesn't have the highest number of highly recommended matches.

The four of them, Baba, Jumbo, and the Funks, are certainly the top 4 guys in the company for the decade and they carried the decade in high quality matches, often against each other.


Once you get past that group, the next highest amount is....4. That's held by Nick Bockwinkel, Jack Brisco, and Kim Duk.

Combining highly recommended and recommend matches, Jumbo still is the highest rated guy with 73 matches on the list. Baba comes in second at 49 total recommended matches. The Funk Brothers even out both ending up with 21 recommended matches.

A closer breakdown shows that Jumbo has 73 matches out of 125 (or 58.4%) recommended.

Baba has 49 out of 109 matches (46.23%) recommended.

Dory Funk Jr. has 21 out of 27 matches (77.78%) recommended.

Terry Funk has 21 out of 23 matches (91.3%) recommended.

Bockwinkel actually has a 100% recommendation rate, but he also only has 6 matches.

dope as fukk breh

links to these highly reccomended matches?

 

[The Rainmaker]

And now there is ANOTHER Ingobernables faction... in ROH.

 

[Doctor Doom]

And now there is ANOTHER Ingobernables faction... in ROH.

Crazy how LIJ is the biggest out of all of them while being an offshoot.

 

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dope as fukk breh

links to these highly reccomended matches?

I don't have the links. I don't know where the AJ Archive exists anymore outside of torrents. I know there was a google drive for a while but that got shut down, then they moved it to facebook and that's changed 2 or 3 times. I guess I can just give you the list of what I have for highly recommended matches and see if you can find them.

12/19/72 Giant Baba vs The Destroyer NWA International Heavyweight
10/9/73 Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr. (c.) vs. Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta NWA International Tag Team
10/9/73 The Destroyer (c.) vs. Mil Mascaras PWF US Heavyweight
1/29/74 Jack Brisco (c.) vs. Dory Funk Jr. NWA World Heavyweight
8/29/74 Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Dory Funk Jr.
12/2/74 Giant Baba (c.) vs. Jack Brisco (c.) PWF Heavyweight, NWA World Heavyweight
12/5/74 Giant Baba (c.) vs. Jack Brisco (c.) PWF Heavyweight, NWA World Heavyweight
2/5/75 Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr. (c.) vs. Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta(San Antonio TX) NWA International Tag Team
3/13/75 Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta (c.) vs. Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr. NWA International Tag Team
4/10/75 Giant Baba (c.) vs. dikk The Bruiser PWF Heavyweight
8/28/76 Jack Brisco vs. Jumbo Tsuruta UN Heavyweight
10/28/76 1976.10.28 - Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta (c.) vs. Kim Duk-Kintaro Oki NWA International Tag Team
12/9/76 dikk Murdoch vs. Karl Kox
12/9/76 Kintaro Oki-Kim Duk (c.) vs. Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta NWA International Tag Team
3/5/77 Jumbo Tsuruta (c.) vs. Billy Robinson UN Heavyweight
3/11/77 Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Billy Robinson
6/11/77 Harley Race (c.) vs. Jumbo Tsuruta NWA World Heavyweight
12/6/77 Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr. vs. Billy Robinson-Horst Hoffman
4/27/78 Jumbo Tsuruta (c.) vs. Ric Flair UN Heavyweight
7/26/78 Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta (c.) vs. Terry Funk-dikk Slater NWA International Tag Team
8/24/78 Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta (c.) vs. Dos Caras-Mil Mascaras NWA International Tag Team
9/13/78 Jumbo Tsuruta (c.) vs. Kim Duk UN Heavyweight
12/5/78 Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr. vs. Nick Bockwinkel-Blackjack Lanza
12/13/78 Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Nick Bockwinkel
12/15/78 Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr.
1/29/79 Jumbo Tsuruta (c.) vs. Kim Duk UN Heavyweight
2/10/79 Nick Bockwinkel (c.) vs. Verne Gagne AWA Heavyweight
2/14/79 Nick Bockwinkel (c.) vs. Jumbo Tsuruta AWA Heavyweight
5/31/79 Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Kevin Von Erich-David Von Erich
7/15/79 Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr. vs. Abdullah The Butcher-The Sheik
10/31/79 Harley Race (c.) vs. Giant Baba NWA World Heavyweight
11/30/79 Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr. vs. Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta
12/7/79 Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr. vs. Mil Mascaras-Dos Caras
12/13/79 Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr. vs. Abdullah The Butcher-The Sheik
12/15/75 Dory Funk Jr. vs. Horst Hoffman
12/15/75 Giant Baba vs. Jumbo Tsuruta
12/18/75 Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Dory Funk Jr.
12/9/75 Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Horst Hoffman
3/10/76 Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Verne Gagne
3/28/76 Rusher Kimura vs. Jumbo Tsuruta UN Heavyweight
5/1/76 Giant Baba vs. Jumbo Tsuruta
6/11/76 Terry Funk (c.) vs. Jumbo Tsuruta NWA World Heavyweight

I have some of them uploaded on youtube myself but I can't remember how deep I got into uploading them before I stopped. It's been probably over a year since I uploaded any of them. Eventually my plan is to go through the whole thing (up to 2000) and then post the whole spreadsheet and links but that will likely take years before I actually get through it.

I think most of those up through 1976 will pop up on youtube on one of my accounts

 

[Jmare007]

I don't have the links. I don't know where the AJ Archive exists anymore outside of torrents. I know there was a google drive for a while but that got shut down, then they moved it to facebook and that's changed 2 or 3 times. I guess I can just give you the list of what I have for highly recommended matches and see if you can find them.

12/19/72 Giant Baba vs The Destroyer NWA International Heavyweight
10/9/73 Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr. (c.) vs. Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta NWA International Tag Team
10/9/73 The Destroyer (c.) vs. Mil Mascaras PWF US Heavyweight
1/29/74 Jack Brisco (c.) vs. Dory Funk Jr. NWA World Heavyweight
8/29/74 Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Dory Funk Jr.
12/2/74 Giant Baba (c.) vs. Jack Brisco (c.) PWF Heavyweight, NWA World Heavyweight
12/5/74 Giant Baba (c.) vs. Jack Brisco (c.) PWF Heavyweight, NWA World Heavyweight
2/5/75 Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr. (c.) vs. Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta(San Antonio TX) NWA International Tag Team
3/13/75 Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta (c.) vs. Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr. NWA International Tag Team
4/10/75 Giant Baba (c.) vs. dikk The Bruiser PWF Heavyweight
8/28/76 Jack Brisco vs. Jumbo Tsuruta UN Heavyweight
10/28/76 1976.10.28 - Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta (c.) vs. Kim Duk-Kintaro Oki NWA International Tag Team
12/9/76 dikk Murdoch vs. Karl Kox
12/9/76 Kintaro Oki-Kim Duk (c.) vs. Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta NWA International Tag Team
3/5/77 Jumbo Tsuruta (c.) vs. Billy Robinson UN Heavyweight
3/11/77 Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Billy Robinson
6/11/77 Harley Race (c.) vs. Jumbo Tsuruta NWA World Heavyweight
12/6/77 Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr. vs. Billy Robinson-Horst Hoffman
4/27/78 Jumbo Tsuruta (c.) vs. Ric Flair UN Heavyweight
7/26/78 Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta (c.) vs. Terry Funk-dikk Slater NWA International Tag Team
8/24/78 Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta (c.) vs. Dos Caras-Mil Mascaras NWA International Tag Team
9/13/78 Jumbo Tsuruta (c.) vs. Kim Duk UN Heavyweight
12/5/78 Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr. vs. Nick Bockwinkel-Blackjack Lanza
12/13/78 Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Nick Bockwinkel
12/15/78 Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr.
1/29/79 Jumbo Tsuruta (c.) vs. Kim Duk UN Heavyweight
2/10/79 Nick Bockwinkel (c.) vs. Verne Gagne AWA Heavyweight
2/14/79 Nick Bockwinkel (c.) vs. Jumbo Tsuruta AWA Heavyweight
5/31/79 Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Kevin Von Erich-David Von Erich
7/15/79 Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr. vs. Abdullah The Butcher-The Sheik
10/31/79 Harley Race (c.) vs. Giant Baba NWA World Heavyweight
11/30/79 Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr. vs. Giant Baba-Jumbo Tsuruta
12/7/79 Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr. vs. Mil Mascaras-Dos Caras
12/13/79 Terry Funk-Dory Funk Jr. vs. Abdullah The Butcher-The Sheik
12/15/75 Dory Funk Jr. vs. Horst Hoffman
12/15/75 Giant Baba vs. Jumbo Tsuruta
12/18/75 Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Dory Funk Jr.
12/9/75 Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Horst Hoffman
3/10/76 Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Verne Gagne
3/28/76 Rusher Kimura vs. Jumbo Tsuruta UN Heavyweight
5/1/76 Giant Baba vs. Jumbo Tsuruta
6/11/76 Terry Funk (c.) vs. Jumbo Tsuruta NWA World Heavyweight

I have some of them uploaded on youtube myself but I can't remember how deep I got into uploading them before I stopped. It's been probably over a year since I uploaded any of them. Eventually my plan is to go through the whole thing (up to 2000) and then post the whole spreadsheet and links but that will likely take years before I actually get through it.

I think most of those up through 1976 will pop up on youtube on one of my accounts

I'm shocked you don't have Funk vs Abby/Sheik 77 RWTL, were God gives one of the GOAT performances what did it lack to you?

 

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I'm shocked you don't have Funk vs Abby/Sheik 77 RWTL, were God gives one of the GOAT performances what did it lack to you?

I dunno. I have it on the rec list, but not highly recommended, but other Funks vs Abby/Sheik matches on highly rec. It's been probably over a year since I watched it so I couldn't tell you what I was thinking at the time. Could have been tired or bored that day.

 

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I gotta say as much as I love the old school slow maybe boring 70s NWA/AJPW style, I'm really looking forward to Choshu coming in and livening up the joint with hateful tags.


EDIT: The frequency with which Terry Funk would take insane over the top/through the ropes bumps or falling off the apron bumps is staggering.

1980 is a buffet of Funker matches

 

[stro]

at the Funk/Slater team when Funk starts doing his swag shuffle and dikk Slater is always right there like Mini Me

when Baba from time to time boots the shyt out of someone

how until he becomes a grumpy old fukk who tortures Kikuchi, Jumbo hits Baba at least 2x harder than anyone else he's in the ring with.

I think dikk Murdoch is better as a fiery face than stoogey heel.

There's a match in early 1980 where Jumbo completely destroys Brody's aura by completely manhandling him on the mat and at one point deadlifts him in a belly to back and just walks around with him like Brody is a child

I love how even the most hated guy can be 100% face for a night depending on the opponent. dikk Murdoch is an example from earlier who against Jumbo and Baba is a grindy/stoogy heel, but against Abdullah is a fired up babyface with the crowd chanting his name the whole match. And then Abdullah is the big monster trying to murder everyone, but put him against Sheik and he's in the middle of the ring soaking in the cheers as the crowd treats him like Terry.


Speaking of, Terry was such a GAWD he had grown ass women coming to the shows dressed as cheerleaders for him

 

[Jmare007]

Holy punches

Bock's selling though

 

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Bock > Flair

Funk > God

 

[The Rainmaker]

Okada will carry the olympic torch next year Just like he has carried New Japan through all these years