Essential Japanese Wrestling Discussion/News

[JohnB]

It was ehhh at BEST. But I also DESPISE Fujita so thats bias from me

Ha i love Fujita, he just got booked badly.

 

[TrueEpic08]

It was ehhh at BEST. But I also DESPISE Fujita so thats bias from me

Take it from someone who actually kind of liked Fujita and loves Lesnar, that triple threat (and just about all Japanese triple threats save for the Devitt/Ki/Ibushi one) pretty much sucked.

 

[Jmare007]

So I ask yall this. When Okada gets the belt back from Styles, then what? Where do you really go from there? Where SHOULD they go?

They can go a lot of directions.

Shibata is the one that makes most sense to me BUT it seems he'll always be in hot water for what he did in the past so It's hard picturing Jado&Gedo giving him the belt.

Nakamura is the other safe bet. He hasn't held the main belt in a long ass time and he could have an entertaining run of defenses.


What I would do? Give Ishii a title win at Korakuen (like when Nakanishi beat Tanahashi) and run with the little fukker for 2-3 big shows.

I also turn Naito heel fukking yesterday and pray to god he can catch fire. They need a title run from him so he doesn't end up like Goto but he needs SOMETHING to gain real momentum. Heel Naito fukking up Ishii's dream run with the title could be good if Naito was somebody worth a damn to the crowd.

 

[Honga Ciganesta]

Not Puro related but just following on from the taping discussion:

Lance Russell did an interview with Memphis Flyer about his 9/18 appearance in Memphis for a show billed as “Long Live The King:A Tribute to Jerry Lawler,” where Russell and Dave Brown will reunite, noted that one thing he’s not proud of is when he was director of programming at WHBQ in Memphis, the station wrestling was on until the mid 70s, that he never issued an edict to not tape over the shows. He noted that they would tape over the shows all the time, thinking they were being smart with money by doing so

Lance

Few Observer notes:

Keiji Muto met with New Japan’s Naoki Sugabayashi this past week, likely having to do with the 11/1 show at Sumo Hall and needing talent. The show will commemorate Muto’s 30th anniversary of his debut.

The 2014 Real World Tag League tournament will be 11/16 to 12/6, with the finals in Osaka at the Bodymaker Colosseum. They also announced a few special shows for later this year. On 11/24 in Maebashi will be Yutaka Yoshie’s 20th anniversary of his pro debut show. On 11/29 in Fujisawa will be Suwama’s 1th anniversary show, and 12/14 at Korakuen Hall will be referee Kyohei Wada’s 40th anniversary of entering the pro wrestling business and 60th birthday show.

The 2014 Open weight singles tournament started on 9/15 at Korakuen Hall before 1,012 fans. The first round matches of the single elimination tournament saw Kotaro Suzuki pin Kenso in 9:24, Suwama beat Atsushi Aoki with a choke in 16:54, Kento Miyahara upset Jun Akiyama in 15:39 and Go Shiozaki pinned Triple Crown champion Joe Doering in 19:48 after a lariat.

At press time, Ustream is only listing the first of the two Destruction shows, 9/21 in Kobe, for broadcast, which may be the last iPPV. The show will start a 3 a.m. on Sunday morning on the East Coast and midnight Saturday night on the West Coast. The 9/23 show in Okayama is not listed for iPPV and there has been nothing said to anyone about New Japan continuing the service and we’ve checked around and nobody seems to know anything. So the Okayama show and 10/13 Sumo Hall show look to be the first major New Japan shows in a couple of years which at this point won’t be available live outside of Japan. Over the past year, Ustream has also broadcast almost all the Korakuen Hall shows, but did not broadcast the past two. The only rumblings we’ve heard going forward are that Jeff Jarrett’s Global Force Wrestling is in negotiations regarding handling the American PPV of the Wrestle Kingdom show on 1/4 at the Tokyo Dome, which would likely air on a tape delay at 8 p.m. Eastern on 1/4.

Tokyo Dome tickets go on sale to New Japan Fan Club members on 10/3, and to the public on 10/18, priced from $500 down to $35.

For Destruction in Kobe, the lineup looks strong from an action standpoint, with this match order:Alex Koslov & Rocky Romero & Tomohiro Ishii vs. Young Bucks & Yujiro Takahashi; Maximo & Bushi & Alex Shelley vs. Desperado & Taichi & Taka Michinoku; Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima & Jushin Liger & Tomoaki Honma vs. Yuji Nagata & Manabu Nakanishi & Tiger Mask & Captain New Japan; Kazushi Sakuraba & Toru Yano vs. Takashi Iizuka & Minoru Suzuki (seemingly to set up Suzuki vs. Sakuraba on an upcoming big show); Kushida vs. Ryusuke Taguchi for the IWGP jr. title, Kota Ibushi & Tetsuya Naito vs. A.J. Styles & Tama Tonga (likely to set up Styles vs. Naito at some point); Karl Anderson & Doc Gallows vs. Kazuchika Okada & Yoshi-Hashi for the IWGP tag titles; Hirooki Goto vs. Togi Makabe, Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Katsuyori Shibata and Bad Luck Fale vs. Shinsuke Nakamura for the IC title. The thing you have to look at is that even though this is the first “big” show since G-1, both big shows this coming week are really there to set up 10/13 at Sumo Hall. If Nakamura regains, I can see the Goto vs. Makabe winner facing Nakamura, and then Styles defending against the Tanahashi vs. Shibata winner. Most see Tanahashi vs. Shibata as the real main event.

Ibushi did an interview for the first issue of the revived Gong Magazine, which came out this past week, and said that his goal as a heavyweight is not just to win the IWGP title, but also to win the Triple Crown, since those were the two major world titles in Japan when he was a kid.

 

[SirReginald]

Masakatsu Funaki dropped his Zero one belt to Kohei Sato today.

 

[Honga Ciganesta]

Not Puro but I thought this might interest people who visit this thread, CMLL had their biggest show in years yesterday and it was headlined by a mask match between Ultimo Guerrero and Atlanits, this is probably the biggest match in Mexico for over a decade. Hard to match the emotion of a really big Mask match and the crowd towards the end of this is incredible. Even if you don't like Lucha at all, the final minutes are just insane



Also a really great Hair match



And Negro Casas still killing it into his 50's Tenryu style

 

[Jmare007]

yeah, been hearing a lot about that mask match gonna check it out

 

[The Rainmaker]

Man, I don't like lucha but that mask match was AMAZING . Those final minutes, people crying, throwing money into the ring... The respect they have for the masks is admirable. If someone we like loses we don't cry, we complain here

 

[Jmare007]

Commentary was fukking horrible.

Had that Taker-Michaels WM 26 big move-kickout-sell layout that I'm not that fond of.

But that third fall....

THAT THIRD FALL AND POST-MATCH BREHS


'nuff said

Spoiler

UG's wife and daughter

 

[The Rainmaker]

Commentary on lucha is always horrible. They make Carlos Cabrera and Marcelo Rodriguez looking like Gordon Solie and Jim Ross.

 

[Jmare007]

Commentary on lucha is always horrible. They make Carlos Cabrera and Marcelo Rodriguez looking like Gordon Solie and Jim Ross.

Carlitos Cabrera is one the great ones dude was crack up until 05' or so. After that he lost all motivation. His early work with Hugo Savinonich made me not regret that I didn't hear Jim Ross during the Attitude Era

 

[The Rainmaker]

Carlitos Cabrera is one the great ones dude was crack up until 05' or so. After that he lost all motivation. His early work with Hugo Savinonich made me not regret that I didn't hear Jim Ross during the Attitude Era

I'm not saying he's bad . Was just saying that compared to the mexican commentators, he is god-tier. I liked Hugo too, but at the end of his tenure he was only reading shout outs from the fans. Marcelo is the one I always disliked. Don't know how he's doing right now, but his heel commentary always had me

 

[Jmare007]

I'm not saying he's bad . Was just saying that compared to the mexican commentators, he is god-tier. I liked Hugo too, but at the end of his tenure he was only reading shout outs from the fans. Marcelo is the one I always disliked. Don't know how he's doing right now, but his heel commentary always had me

Huguito was more worried about preaching about god and how we can all be saved than the product

Haven't listened to a spanish broadcast in a long while but last time I checked Marcelo was still garbage. He's forced heel persona is whack as fukk.

Not that he was the reason but once Cena took over as the Ace of the company, the spanish commentary went downhill and it went downhill FAST.




I was disappointed with the Lucha announcers because I thought they were gonna be like Aguilar, JCC and Lama for Box Azteca. Now THAT'S a commentary
team

 

[TrueEpic08]

Just read the result of that mask v. mask and HOLY shyt I need to watch that immediately. Massive moment.

 

[The Rainmaker]

Chono and his family. I guess genetics truly skip a generation.