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Baba was a giant, at 6-foot-8, and was the tallest man ever to play Japanese Major League baseball, and he became the next big star after the death of Rikidozan. After Rikidozan’s death in 1963, Toyonobori was put in the top spot and business did not do well. Business rebounded when the JWA started building around Baba. Inoki left JWA to be the top star of an independent group, and gained a big baseball stadium win over Johnny Valentine. When that group failed, Inoki came back to the JWA as a superstar, but he was generally viewed as No. 2 to Baba.

When Baba & Inoki were together in the JWA, the legendary tag team that was on top during the 1968-71 boom period, while both were protected and were the two top stars, Baba was the International champion, the belt Rikidozan won from Thesz.

In 1972, Baba and Inoki had left JWA to form All Japan Pro Wrestling and New Japan Pro Wrestling, and to get into a war that had its ups and down. However, the personal rivalry between the two was never settled prior to Baba’s death in 1999.

In 1975, while Inoki definitely had his supporters and fan base, most fans still remembered, from a few years earlier when both were in the same promotion, that Baba was the bigger star. And he still had access to the biggest name pro wrestlers of the era, like Bruno Sammartino, Jack Brisco, The Funk Brothers, Harley Race, and others.

Inoki and business manager Hisashi Shinma saw that Inoki was never going to be able to have the list of American victims to match with Baba. His wins over Kobayashi and Oki were huge, and to some fans his wins over Karl Gotch and Lou Thesz were bigger than Baba’s wins with the conception that Inoki was beating the real shooters, the two symbolic Gods of Pro Wrestling, while Baba was beating pro wrestlers. New Japan also, through a connection with Vince McMahon Sr., was able to bring in Andre the Giant as a regular Inoki opponent, but Inoki was never allowed to pin him and never got a clean win over Andre until 1985.

They came up with a concept to take Inoki beyond just being the best pro wrestler in the world, marketing him as the world’s greatest fighter. That’s where Ali came in. Baba might have rallied the country when he won the “real” world championship from Brisco in 1974 (the NWA title was considered the real world title, before everyone grew up on Rikidozan challenging but never being able to beat Thesz for it). But the NWA title was nothing compared to the world heavyweight boxing title, the greatest prize in combat sports, let alone Ali, the man who held it.

Vince McMahon Sr. and Sammartino had made overtures for a mixed match with Ali, thinking of the box office potential at the time for a national closed-circuit fight. The first time they had that idea was in 1965 for a world title unification match with NWA champion Lou Thesz, but that fell apart in the negotiations. Closed-circuit had made boxing promoters rich and using Ali as the draw, would be enormous. Ali’s people told them he’d do it for $6 million. Sammartino was of the belief it would be a legitimate contest, but McMahon Sr. was also one of the people who was involved with Ali vs. Inoki and made clear he wanted that fight to be a work.

Sammartino actually made the challenge at a boxing get-together where he and McMahon Sr. were invited through their connections with Willie Gilzenberg. Gilzenberg was the figurehead President of the WWWF, minority owner of Capitol Wrestling Corporation, the parent company, but was better known in the sports world as a noted boxing promoter in New Jersey.

McMahon Sr. went to the other major wrestling promoters with the idea of raising the $6 million and doing a national closed-circuit event, calling people like Verne Gagne, Mike LeBell, Eddie Graham, San Muchnick and others, but they rejected the idea. Gagne was bitter about the other promoters not working with him in promoting his movie “The Wrestler,” which had just come out. Others thought, why should they put up the money where McMahon would get all the credit as promoter, and it was a vehicle to make Sammartino, McMahon’s guy, into an even bigger star, when they all had their own local drawing cards to promote as No. 1.

McMahon also called New Japan Pro Wrestling, who then took the deal because with their connections, they were able to meet Ali’s price, although in the end they never came close.

Keep in mind that money and athletes purses were very different then. Ali made $2.5 million for the first fight with Joe Frazier in 1971, and the nation stood still that night for an event which was bigger than any Super Bowl. There just wasn’t that much money that could be made from an event in that era, given the limitations of closed-circuit and the price that was charged for entertainment.

Don King had managed to get the government of Zaire and the city in Kinshasa (Kinshasa being the name of Shinsuke Nakamura’s finisher is directly due to Nakamura’s fondness for the Ali vs. George Foreman fight in that city) to put up $5 million for their fight. So this was going to be the biggest payday for one day that any athlete in history was to get. Ali was going through a nasty divorce, and it wouldn’t even be a real fight.

While Ali was the big score, he was actually the second “mixed martial arts” fight in remaking the story of Inoki’s career. Nearly five months earlier, on February 6, 1976, Inoki beat 1972 Olympic judo gold medalist Willem Ruska of Holland in a worked match which became legendary in the culture. That was a booked win for Inoki (in exchange for Ruska being pushed afterwards as a pro wrestling big star for big money by New Japan) to build to the Ali fight. While people today may look at Inoki vs. Ruska and see a poor pro wrestling match, in 1976 this was a gigantic event in Japanese culture and started to make Inoki bigger than Baba because he would challenge and beat real fighters from other sports. While beating Ruska made Inoki an even bigger star in Japan, the event got little interest outside the country.

The idea was that beating Ali would make Inoki a household name worldwide. In the rivalry between Inoki and Baba a major point, besides Baba being the top guy in the late '60s when they were both stars and regular tag team partners, is that Baba was a huge star in the U.S., while Inoki was not. Because he was billed at 7-foot-3 and in his youth was a great athlete, Baba was a big star in the early '60s, in short order getting multiple shots at all three major American world champions, Sammartino (WWWF), Thesz (NWA) and The Destroyer (WWA). Inoki came to the U.S. but never got over to any great degree.

In a heated wrestling war built around the two big stars, beating Ali would put Inoki on a level Baba couldn’t touch. In doing so, New Japan would overcome its connection disadvantages and most likely, by virtue of having the biggest star, be the No. 1 group in Japan.

The Japanese figured the $6 million payday was enough to buy them what they wanted, and Ali’s side agreed to it.

Ali went to Japan to do a pro wrestling match. He had already done his pro wrestling angle with Gorilla Monsoon in Philadelphia to build it up on pro wrestling television shows. He got his pro wrestling wins on ABC’s Wide World of Sports over Kenny Jay and Buddy Wolff in Chicago to build the match up to the U.S. mainstream sports audience.

Decades later, when TV-Asahi was celebrating its anniversary and running down the highest rated shows in network history, which included a feature on Ali vs. Inoki, which did a 54.6 rating and about 60 million viewers. Somehow, the network had found an old audio tape recording of a meeting between the sides from a hotel a few weeks before the fight where they were working out the finish.

From most accounts, the idea was to book a finish that would protect Ali in losing, particularly in the U.S. market, while make Inoki look strong, particularly in the Japanese market.

The idea was that Ali would pummel Inoki with punches, and Inoki would blade. Ali, who had a reputation as a humanitarian, wouldn’t want to inflict more damage to Inoki, and would step back and want to stop the fight. At that moment, Inoki would deliver his enzuigiri, a kick to the back of the head, and Ali would go down and be pinned for a three count. To Americans, Ali was being a sportsman and the Japanese guy attacked him when he let his guard down. Plus the kick was to the back of the head, a spot where American sports fans saw it as illegal from growing up and learning about rabbit punches. For Japan, it would be your come-from-behind win, Inoki using his karate skills to overcome the greatest boxer of all-time.

Inoki would become the biggest pro wrestling star in the world, and be able to work the U.S. on top as the man who beat Ali. New Japan would outdistance All Japan. And Inoki would surpass Baba in the eyes of the older fans who remembered how things were five years earlier when both were on the same team.

Ali only had short time to promote the fight. He had a heavyweight title defense against Jimmy Young on April 30, 1976, winning a unanimous decision in a fight he didn’t look good in, and really won more because of his name. On May 24, 1976, he retained his title beating Richard Dunn, who nobody took as a serious challenge to him, in Munich, Germany via fifth round knockout. He was scheduled for a September 28, 1976, title defense at Yankee Stadium next against Ken Norton, who he had split two previous fights with and was considered a major title defense.

In the end, Ali had second thoughts. He apparently thought that losing with all the talk would be akin to participating in a fixed boxing match, even though earlier that month he had no issues in winning in his other matches or putting Monsoon over in the angle.

In the days before the fight, it nearly fell apart. Reports that the fight was in grave jeopardy hit the U.S. The reason, Ali refusing to do the job, and Inoki’s side not wanting to put up that kind of money for Inoki to lose, were never revealed publicly.

In the end, as shocking as this was, the agreement was to do a legit fight. Since Ali was the star, and so much money was spent in promotions, the end result was a rule set that was described by Sammartino at the time as Inoki trying to fight with his hands cuffed and his legs cuffed as well.

The terrible fight, and it was, was largely dictated by the rules. Ali was allowed to box, as well as punch on the ground. Inoki couldn’t punch, since he wasn’t wearing gloves. They also banned him from using karate chops to different parts of the body. In hindsight, people 40 years ago knew nothing about fighting and believed karate chops were deadly. The enzuigiri was banned as well, as well all submission moves, suplexes and slams. Inoki could take Ali down and pin him for three seconds. That appeared to really be about all he could do, but Ali could get a break or a standup by grabbing the ropes. A lot of people believed Inoki would still be able to take him down easily and Ali would have no chance, not realizing that as long as Ali stayed near the ropes, he was in no harm.
 

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In Japan, as shown by the television rating, this was a gigantic event. In the U.S., it was something less.

It got some media coverage, but nowhere near what an Ali boxing match would get. Most sportswriters believed it was going to be fake pro wrestling. And certainly, the Monsoon angle and the Jay and Wolff matches would tell you that. Howard Cosell, who announced the Jay and Wolff fights for ABC outright called them a farce, decried them as they were going on, and kept saying that in all this nonsense, Ali could get hurt. Any sports fan watching either the Monsoon angle or the two wrestling matches would just see it as Ali doing fake pro wrestling. Ali actually took to pro wrestling fairly well for the time given his lack of experience, and in his short foray, he was the best promo in the entire business.

Vince McMahon Sr. and Bob Arum were the main promoters in the U.S. Unlike most of the closed-circuit events in the U.S., where Arum would go through local boxing promoters, McMahon Sr., went through his contacts of wrestling promoters, with the idea that they all had weekly television to promote the fights. Plus his office would send them interviews to put on their television shows done by Ali and Fred Blassie to promote the fight. McMahon Sr. appointed Blassie as Ali’s manager. It worked because Blassie was a big-name heel manager in the Northeast, and was a huge star in Japan in the 1960s.

Most of the promoters, with their own cards to promote, didn’t push the show all that hard. Outside of the Northeast, where the success was more due to the Sammartino vs. Stan Hansen grudge match which drew more than 32,000 fans came to Shea Stadium (and keep in mind that children under the age of 14 were not allowed to attend at that time), it didn’t do that well on closed circuit.

On April 26, 1976, Sammartino was defending his title against Hansen. During the match, Hansen went for a bodyslam, and accidentally dropped Sammartino on the top of his head. Sammartino suffered a broken neck and was told that if it wasn’t for his powerful neck muscles, he could have been paralyzed. Still, not knowing the seriousness of his injuries, Sammartino got up from the fall, continued the match, and did his fiery comeback like nothing was wrong. Hansen hit Sammartino with his lariat. Sammartino bladed, and lost the match via blood stoppage although he was pounding on Hansen as the match was being called, to build for a no stopping for blood rematch three weeks later. In the dressing room, when the adrenaline wore off, he realized he was seriously hurt and was hospitalized.

The big show was only two months later, far too early for Sammartino to return.

“Vince (Sr.) was calling me up every day,” recalled Sammartino. “He had committed so much money for the closed-circuit. I don’t know how much money he committed, but it must have been a considerable amount, and he was very concerned that this thing was a bomb. Vince kept calling me, saying, `If I don’t make the match (Sammartino vs. Hansen), we’ll be ruined. I said, `Vince, I’m in the hospital with a broken neck.’ He kept begging. He said, `As long as we get you in the ring, we won’t do anything to your neck in any kind of danger’ and I okayed it. My God, when my doctor found out about it and my family found out about it, they said, `Are you crazy? Have you lost your mind.’ But we pulled it off.”

Whether true or not, Sammartino was told that so much was tied up into the fight that if it bombed, the company could go over. That was the line it took to finally convince Sammartino that he had to do the match.

Sammartino was promised his usual percentage (Sammartino’s contract was that he got six percent of all house shows except Madison Square Garden where he’d get five percent). He was also promised three percent of the closed-circuit revenue from all of McMahon’s cities. He never got a dime from that. After the fact, McMahon told him that Arum had balked on the deal.

Sammartino came in, attacked Hansen right away and threw punches and kicks and Hansen quickly bailed out. It was all he could do and Sammartino, out of shape for perhaps the only time in his career, was afraid the public would hate the match. Newspapers listed the match at 10:19, but Sammartino believes it went closer to two minutes. In the end, they were happy that Sammartino was back, cheered wildly as he pummeled Hansen causing him to quit in his quest for the title. It set up a rematch on August 7, 1976, where a healthier Sammartino bloodied up and destroyed Hansen, ending their main event program. But the reputation turned Hansen, who was a largely unknown 320-pound former college football player at West Texas State, into a worldwide headliner as the guy who broke Sammartino’s neck.

By January, McMahon Sr. booked Hansen to New Japan, where he quickly became Inoki’s leading regular rival. For most of the next 24 years, there was no bigger American pro wrestling star in Japan that Hansen.

Most New York coverage of the event talked about how terrible the Ali vs. Inoki match was, but that the fans at Shea left happy because they all came to see Sammartino return and get his revenge on Hansen.

The original idea was for three boxer vs. wrestler fights, with Ali vs. Inoki from Tokyo, Andre the Giant vs. Chuck Wepner from Shea Stadium in New York and NWA world champion Terry Funk vs. Henry Clark (a ranked heavyweight boxer who was the California state champion at the time). The latter fight fell through. Clark was knocked out by Earnie Shavers on March 28, 1976 in Paris, although the fight may have been through before that. Funk and Clark were in the ring some time before the fight however for something taped which aired on television where the first round was shown but nobody ever spoke of it again. Andre and Wepner did a worked match which Andre won via count out after he threw Wepner over the top rope at 1:17 of the third round. Newspaper reports at the time commented that Andre, billed as 7-foot-4 and 424 pounds at the time, appeared to be more like 6-foot-9 and 370 pounds (he was actually a little bigger than that, but Wepner, who was a real 6-foot-5, was going to make Andre not look as tall in comparison, although the weight difference was probably 175 pounds or more. Nothing about the match itself was real, although there was a post-match brawl that looked like a wrestling pull-apart riot that evidently had some real moments. Wepner did clock Andre with a real punch and Andre was stunned for a split second. Gorilla Monsoon, who was in Andre’s corner, was throwing boxing people around that were in the ring.

The local promotions would book an undercard, using the territorial stars, and then the show would finish with Andre and Ali’s fights, except on the West Coast, where, due to the time difference, the local matches would follow the two big matches.

In most cases, the promoters pushed their own talent. Clips of Inoki beating Ruska, Ali doing interviews, Fred Blassie doing interviews and Andre doing interviews were sent to all the major promoters. Most gave the event only a nominal push.

The mentality seemed to be ‘Why push guys who weren’t in the territory?’ It was the same mentality where few promoters got behind Gagne’s movie. In particular, promoters didn’t seem to want to push Inoki, who wasn’t going to be coming to most of those cities. Plus, there was the political issue as many of the NWA promoters were aligned with Baba, and thus, Inoki was the political enemy, even though New Japan worked with the NWA office in Los Angeles and with McMahon.

Roy Shire in San Francisco aired one Ali promo the Saturday before the show, and himself offered a rebuttal saying how Ali with his “buggy-whip arms” was going to be destroyed by the 6-foot-3, 270 pound Inoki (who in reality was roughly the same size as Ali, both being about 220-225 pounds).

Gagne promoted a three-match live event at Chicago Stadium, an opener where Greg Gagne beat Bob Orton Jr., followed by dikk the Bruiser & The Crusher, the AWA tag team champions, beating Bobby Heenan’s team of Blackjack Lanza & Bobby Duncum. The main event saw Nick Bockwinkel retain the AWA title going to a 30:00 draw with Verne Gagne.

For whatever reason, unadvertised, when I showed up that night at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, way earlier than the announced start time, they aired the AWA matches on the screen. While San Francisco a few years later was an AWA city, at the time the fan base, a mix of wrestling and boxing fans, didn’t really react to any of the guys, even though several of them were stars in the territory years earlier.

While Bruiser & Crusher were the legends of Chicago as the beer drinking street fighters, to the San Jose crowd, they were old men who, by the San Francisco standard of working, were awful. People laughed, loudly, at how fake the match looked. Gagne vs. Bockwinkel was much better, a very good, but not great match. Gagne was 50 years old by this time, and while he kept himself positioned as the supreme technical wrestler and top babyface in the Midwest, unless you grew up with him and the name Verne Gagne, he wasn’t that impressive. Bockwinkel, then 41, at that point was very much a top tier worker.

Gagne, when it was over, acted frustrated and noted that it had taken him a year to get this rematch and that he felt Bockwinkel would never give him another. The storyline is that Gagne was on the verge of winning when time ran out. Usually a title match would be 60 minutes, but because of the time frame of the Andre and Ali fights, they had to book it for a shorter time limit. It was cut to 30 minutes and time ran out on him. Bockwinkel, always the master of promos, said that Gagne had his chance and saw no reason to give him another one, and Heenan was even more inflammatory.

There were many other cities hosting live shows that were closed-circuited across their territory.

Paul Boesch in Houston got NWA champion, Terry Funk, in a title defense with Rocky Johnson, which, ironically, would have made far more sense to air in California since Johnson was a big local favorite in Northern California and also a headliner and former Americas champion in Southern California.

In an interesting trivia note, one of the biggest angles in Memphis wrestling history stemmed from this night. With all the talk of Ali vs. Inoki, Jerry Jarrett wanted to do a worked boxer vs. wrestler feud, using his top star, Jerry Lawler. Johnson, the father of Dwayne Johnson had been a top pro wrestler, and a headliner in many territories, and also had a boxing background, including sparring with Ali, George Foreman and Clark. He had quick hands and quick feet, and a great physique. Jerry Jarrett noted today such an angle could never possibly work because of communications, but he was able to bring in Rocky Johnson and bill him as a pro boxer who was a knockout artist, given a made up record as well as a mythical ranking in the top five contenders to Ali’s title. The local media covered it like Lawler was facing a very real opponent from another sport, and as part of the buildup, Johnson was specifically said to have never been a pro wrestler. Four days before pro wrestler Johnson faced Funk, on June 21 at the Mid South Coliseum in Memphis, a sellout crowd of 11,188, saw Lawler beat Johnson in a wrestler vs. boxer showdown. A few weeks later, in a rematch, Johnson won by knocking Lawler out in the sixth round before 10,138 fans. Several weeks later, Johnson was taught to be a pro wrestler and became one of the hottest babyfaces in the territory.

The Omni in Atlanta was booked with Jack Brisco vs. Dory Funk Jr., the classic wrestling rivalry in its 7th year going strong. They also did a 30 minute draw. This aired throughout the Southeast, as well as a number of other NWA cities, including St. Louis.

Indianapolis had a live show with WWA champion The Strangler (John Hill aka Guy Mitchell) going to a 30 minute draw with Wilbur Snyder, and also aired the matches from Chicago since Bruiser was the area’s biggest star.

Fritz Von Erich ran a show in Dallas at the Sportatorium.

Mike LeBell ran at the Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles, with Gory Guerrero vs. Roddy Piper as the main event. That was built up as boxer vs. wrestler, since Gory, then 55, was known as the master wrestler. Even though Piper was the area’s top heel, during this period he cut promos for Ali, who was made the heel on the wrestling shows and Inoki the babyface, and did have a boxing background. They did their own wrestlers vs boxer match which the wrestlers won.

Detroit headlined with The Sheik vs. Pampero Firpo, and had a 23-year-old Randy Poffo (Randy Savage) wrestle veteran Swede Hanson in the opener.

Calgary went with International tag team champions Mr. Hito & Heigo Hamaguchi (later Animal Hamaguchi, who became a big star in Japan as a wrestler, and an even bigger star as a wrestling coach for the world champion Japanese women’s wrestling team and father of multi-time world champion and Olympic medailst Kyoko Hamaguchi) defending against Big John Quinn & Paddy Ryan.

While much of Florida got the Omni show, they did run a house show in Tallahassee with Dusty Rhodes & Buddy Colt (attempting to make a comeback after a plane crash) & King Curtis Iaukea faced The Assassin & The Missouri Mauler & Rock Hunter.

Fans in Santa Clara were throwing chairs and nearly rioted starting in the 11th round and becoming even more unruly when it was over. Roy Shire, at the Cow Palace in San Francisco, seeing how unruly the crowd was in the most dangerous arena on the West Coast, as well as at his other arenas, gave a pep talk to his wrestlers to save the show. Broadcast through most of the West Coast, the fans saw Don Muraco & Masa Saito beat Pedro Morales & Tony Garea in a good match due to the heels, while Pat Patterson beat United States champion The Great (Mr.) Fuji in two of three falls in a non-title match which was clearly the best match we saw of the entire night. Patterson managed to get a quote in Sports Illustrated in the build up, saying how he would have leg dived Inoki and immediately put him in the figure four leglock and winning would be easy.
 

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Sammartino was not a good soldier in promoting the main event. Even though WWWF and McMahon by this point had a business relationship with Inoki, supplying him talent, Sammartino was loyal to the other side of the war in Japan. He considered Baba a personal friend, and never liked Inoki, stemming from working with both during the '60s. To show how valuable McMahon felt Sammartino was, he had become the U.S. booker for talent to New Japan, but his biggest star and champion, the guy who Inoki would most want to face at the time, refused to go. Sammartino told McMahon that he would never work in opposition to Baba. McMahon still never considered switching the title.

Sammartino also didn’t like Ali. He felt Ali was a racist when he would talk about interracial marriage on television. When they did meet, it didn’t go well. There was the challenge at the boxing dinner as well as the fact that for every kid growing up in the Northeast, they had at some point gotten into a schoolyard debate over who would win a fight, Sammartino or Ali.

Once, in Philadelphia when both were doing interviews, Ali was talking about how he could beat any wrestler.

“He looked at me, and said, `and I know I could beat Sammartino, too.’ I said, `There’s a ring over there, why don’t you try it.’ Probably, he was just clowning. But I wasn’t a big fan of him, right or wrong. I had seen something about him. He came to Pittsburgh to make a speech and he came across as too much of a racist. He was condemning black men or women who would marry white men or women. He bragged about how he had all kinds of women, but he would never touch a white woman. To me, that was pretty racist. I didn’t know how to take the guy. I respected him as a boxer. I watched a lot of his fights. I don’t believe he was the greatest fighter who ever lived, because I’d seen Joe Louis fight on tape. I saw Ali fight Doug Jones, a light heavyweight, and Doug Jones beat him. The people booed like hell when they raised Ali’s hand, and that was before his suspension. He lost to (Leon) Spinks, lost to (Trevor) Berbick, who weren’t great fighters. Joe Frazier, those were tough fights, great fights, and he did well, but he lost once to him. The guy that nobody ever talks about anymore is the guy who never lost a fight, Rocky Marciano, 49-0 with 43 knockouts. But I hate when people make comparisons, about so-and-so being the greatest because you don’t know. Maybe Ali could have beaten Louis. Maybe a guy like Ali would have beaten him on points, you don’t know.”

Sammartino, when asked about the fight in media interviews beforehand, said that he considered Inoki a third-rate wrestler, that Baba was considered the real champion by the Japanese people, but also that he believed a wrestler would beat a boxer.

The rule changes didn’t take place until the days before the fight.

In an interview Sammartino did right before the fight started, with Bill Apter, that was released for the first time this past week, he said, “I really resent the rules. It’s not fair to say it’s a fighter against a wrestler. The demands that Ali has made, it’s like Inoki is handcuffed and his legs cuffed as well. Ali can hit him when he’s down. The wrestler can’t put on any punishing holds. He’s not allowed to slam him. I resent they (Inoki’s side) went for such rules. If Ali should win, they’ll say that a boxer beat a wrestler, when it really was a boxer beat a handcuffed man who wasn’t allowed to do anything.”

Most of the fight was Inoki laying on his back and kicking at Ali’s legs. In those days, there was no kickboxing in the U.S., let alone MMA. Nobody understood leg kicks. In Japan they didn’t really understand it either. Watching the fight today, while still a terrible fight, Inoki clearly won. Inoki landed 78 kicks to Ali’s legs, which swelled up and bruised up badly. Sammartino recalled them putting lotion on Ali’s legs to prevent the swelling from getting bad and that only made it more difficult for Inoki to grab them without slipping off. Ali landed six punches in 15 rounds. Inoki noted later that while the fight was a bomb, he considered it the high point of his career, sharing the ring for 15 rounds with Ali and putting himself in danger of fighting the best boxer in the world. Others weren’t nearly as kind, feeling that both fighters never put themselves in any danger.

Sammartino noted that when the tape came out this past week, he’s heard that people were very critical of his commentary. But in 1976, that is exactly what everyone thought of the fight. By round 11, Sammartino said they should suspend both men’s fighting license. By round 13, Sammartino said they should withhold both men’s purses because they were cheating the public. At the conclusion, he said, “I would arrest them both. It was the most disgusting, disgusting, I can’t even come up with the words. They should both be barred from being in the ring again. They should both be suspended and fined ugly.”

Four decades later, he said, “I listened to it (his commentary) since it was new to me (Sammartino said it was so long ago he’d forgotten he and Apter had done the tape in the dugout of Shea Stadium watching on the big screens), and it came back to me. To be perfectly honest, whether anybody agrees or disagrees, that thing was horrendous. You were a kid. I wasn’t a kid. I was wrestling that night. I was older than both Inoki and Ali were. I’m there watching and I was frustrated. Here’s the great opportunity where wrestling could gain some real respect and it was wasted. I believed that a wrestler will beat a fighter any day. And I still believe that, without question.”

Not much happened in the fight. Inoki mostly stayed on his back and stayed away. In the fifth round, he clinched and went for a takedown but Ali grabbed the ropes immediately to break it. In the sixth round, Inoki got a takedown, but Ali again grabbed the ropes. Frustrated, Inoki threw an elbow, which was illegal and was docked a point.

In the seventh, Inoki tripped Ali, but Ali scrambled up on his own before Inoki could cover him.

In the tenth round, Inoki got inside and clinched, but Ali again grabbed the ropes.

In the 13th round, the most eventful, Inoki charged at Ali, but Ali was against the ropes. Ali then made faces at Inoki and stuck out his tongue. Inoki grabbed Ali in a position for a Greco-Roman back suplex, the Lou Thesz finisher, but that move was illegal to begin with, and Ali grabbed the ropes right away. Karl Gotch, Inoki’s trainer and second, who was 52 at the time but still thought by everyone in Japan and insiders as the guy who would have destroyed both of them in a real fight, glared at Ali after Ali grabbed his fist and seemingly threatened him. In another clinch, Inoki kneed Ali in the groin. Both knees and groin strikes were illegal. Ali went to ref Gene LeBell and started cursing, saying it was bullshyt. Ali mad, threatened to walk out right there. LeBell grabbed Ali and told him to return to the ring, and tried to joke telling him he can’t leave, “Because I’ve got money on you.” Ali wasn’t amused. Ali was mad and threw two punches that landed in that round before Inoki dropped to his back and started kicking at Ali’s legs for the rest of the round.

Ali threw his best punch in the 14th round. Little or nothing happened in the 15th round and it was over.

The scores were then read. Judge Kokichi Endo, the pro wrestling judge (Endo was a major star as Rikidozan’s tag team partner in the early days of Japanese wrestling) scored it 74-72 for Ali. Boxing judge Kou Toyama scored is 72-68 for Inoki. The third judge was LeBell, who, because of deducting points from Inoki in the sixth round for the illegal elbow, the eighth round for reasons nobody seems to recall, and the 13th round for the low blow, had a 71-71 scorecard and the fight was ruled a draw.

Around the U.S. fans were furious. Not only was the fight terrible, but nobody won.

Ironically, viewed today, with knowledge of leg kicks, Inoki would have probably won 12 of the 15 rounds.

In most of the U.S. the show was considered a bomb. There were about 250,000 tickets sold in closed-circuit locations around the country. Still, there is no question this promotion was the predecessor for both the first Starrcade promote by Jim Crockett Jr., seven years later, and the first WrestleMania promoted by the son of Vince McMahon nine years later. The big difference was that the current Vince McMahon has his own television all over the country and promoted the show like crazy. It connected more with wrestling fans, even though it didn’t draw the boxing fan audience that Ali vs. Inoki did.

It was promoted ten times as effectively, and had even more mainstream coverage because of Mr. T, Cyndi Lauper, Ali and Billy Martin.

They sold 400,000 closed circuit tickets, but that show was promoted ten times as effectively. In St. Louis, which was a wrestling capital, both shows ended up about the same, doing almost identical crowds of 3,000 at Kiel Auditorium. The idea the numbers were even close when the local promoters were for the most part not behind the show was astounding, which largely speaks to the popularity of pro wrestling in 1976 and Ali’s drawing power with sports fans. That’s even with much of the boxing establishment ridiculing the fight, and the general media feeling was that it wouldn’t be real.

Lawsuits followed, as Ali ended up only getting $2 million for the fight. Inoki was promised $1.8 million, but ended up getting $400,000. New Japan was reeling. Instead of being the nail in Baba’s coffin and the ascension of Inoki into Japan’s biggest sports star and national hero, and pro wrestling’s biggest worldwide name, he was the guy who laid on his back for 15 rounds, regardless of the rules. Still, Inoki kept winning his pro wrestling matches. New Japan brought in boxers, karate fighters, judo guys and kickboxers for Inoki to beat, including Wepner and later Leon Spinks. Inoki ended up bigger than ever, and New Japan surpassed All Japan for a time. New Japan had a golden period of massive business from 1981 to 1983 as clearly the No. 1 pro wrestling company in the world, build around Inoki, Tatsumi Fujinami, Riki Choshu and the original Tiger Mask, Satoru Sayama. Running major arenas every night, they sold out 90 percent of their shows in 1982. But as was the case every time Inoki got successful, a scandal brought him back down and threatened the future of the company. Inoki ended up as a huge drawing card in a number of countries around the world, but he never achieved the popularity he had hoped for in the U.S.

Ali was never the same as a boxer. Whether it was the Frazier “Thrilla in Manila,” fight, the long-term wear-and-tear, the kidney problems or the leg damage he took in this fight, or a combination of everything, he was a different fighter when he stepped into the ring with Norton. Many believe Norton won that fight as well. When the fight ended, the announcers calling the fight said they would be very surprised if Norton hadn’t won the championship. But all three judges gave the fight to Ali. Ali never knocked anyone out after the Inoki fight, although he won his next three fights via decision before his upset loss to Spinks.

The fight was largely forgotten in the U.S., except as a point of ridicule. “Remember that time Muhammad Ali fought that Japanese wrestler?” as the answer to trivia questions such as “What was his name?” or “What was the lowest point of Ali’s career?”

In Japan, the fight after a few years of being remembered as a travesty–the crowd at Budokan Hall that destroyed all pro wrestling gate records were every bit as mad at Inoki and Ali as American fans were–it later was viewed by mythical proportions. As great as he really was, Ali became an even greater fighter in hindsight because he became so much larger-than-life. Inoki’s career also became far more legendary because of his decades on top and on television. People who never saw the fight, and only saw photos or read stories about it, heard and were told about how Inoki and Ali went 15 rounds to a draw in the battle of the greatest boxer of all-time against the greatest wrestler. It must have been epic, right? Whether pro wrestling was or wasn’t real, Inoki drew with Ali, he beat Ruska, Wepner, Willie Williams, Spinks and other martial artists. He was viewed as Japan’s greatest fighting machine.

The generation that grew up with that Inoki, and the teachings of people like Gotch, like Kazushi Sakuraba, Masakatsu Funaki, Akira Maeda, Satoru Sayama, Nobuhiko Takada, became the stars and promoters of shoot style pro wrestling. That transitioned into the heyday of MMA and K-1 kickboxing. It would be an overstatement to say Ali vs. Inoki was responsible for all that, but it would be very accurate to say Inoki’s mixed matches, the most famous being with Ali, were the direct cultural reason this all happened.

During the heyday of the Pride Fighting Championships, Inoki was the face of the brand and even though retired, by far its most popular fighter. But things have changed in the last decade. The generation that saw Inoki in his prime and grew up with him got older. The ones who read about his 1976 fights and saw him at the end as a pro wrestler also got older. The generation of kids told by their parents about watching his matches are grown up now and not telling their kids about him, because it’s not their first-hand knowledge.

Now 73, there is a younger generation in Japan who barely knows who he is. But still, to this day, if you ask people in Japan what was the most famous wrestling match of all-time, unless they are very old and remember Rikidozan’s matches with Lou Thesz, Fred Blassie, The Destroyer or The Sharpe Brothers, the answer that will be said most often is Ali vs. Inoki.

But even more, ask people about the first MMA fight in history, and that fight will be mentioned immediately. While it’s far from the case, and in reality shouldn’t even be considered because of what it was truly supposed to be, the fact it even happened made it so.

For the same reason, in recent weeks, with the death of Ali and the book, major media in the U.S. has looked back at this fight as the fight that inspired mixed martial arts. And with the book, the fight may also, 40 years after it happened and was viewed as a farce, be considered one of the most important historical moments that led to and predated the birth of a major sport.
 

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Lmao Wrestling World 1997

NJ goes from building their show around a feud with UWFI to having a feud with tiny as fukk, death match BJW.

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And then Inoki has a 17 years too late rematch with Willie Williams, who clearly had not been active in years, who tapped out the second Inoki got a hold locked on.

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I gotta finish this show. Really been taken aback at how generally not particularly good the Jan 4th dome shows were in the 90s. Usually one or two decent-good matches per show, and the rest are bleh or super hsort.
 

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So today Kojima, Sydal and Ricochet won the NEVER tag titles, and then Kojima said to Tenzan he's going to give him his place in the G1. Don't know if that will be recognized or not.
 

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I gotta finish this show. Really been taken aback at how generally not particularly good the Jan 4th dome shows were in the 90s. Usually one or two decent-good matches per show, and the rest are bleh or super hsort.

Traditionally New Japan Dome shows are average with 1 or 2 standout matches at best. It's only been the last 3-4 Dome shows that have more focused on delivering good matches than being an "spectacle".
 

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Traditionally New Japan Dome shows are average with 1 or 2 standout matches at best. It's only been the last 3-4 Dome shows that have more focused on delivering good matches than being an "spectacle".

Yeah, that's what I've gathered having watched them all up to 1997. Hashimoto/Choshu was dope, as was Kensuke vs Muta, and Tajiri/Otani was very fun. The rest of the card can :camby:
 

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Audio gets REALLY out of sync at the 8 minute mark (like 3-4 minutes into the match) :sadcam:

A little too long considering Bodyguard and Zeus were in charge of the control section, they weren't able to make the crowd care as much as they should. It was kinda weird seeing the invading team be the babyfaces in this but given the talent involved it and that it was Korakuen it made sense. They turned the corner about half way through the match when they decided to just throw bombs. I like how they didn't went full retard and use the break ups intelligently. Damn good match and the right finish :obama:



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