James Gunn is the new CEO of DC Studios

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Agreed, but just like with Feige, these movies are going to be molded to fit his vision. For better or worse, his style from Phase Two forward of just making genre movies with comedy added to distract from the surprisingly high body counts for PG-13 movies works.

While Gunn isn't guaranteed to be doing any writing for the movies under his watch, it's hard to think that as the creative leader, he won't end up pursuing stuff that appeals to his creative approach.
Not really.

Feige was in for the long haul with goals.

Gunn has a four year deal as of now. The cycle of these movies are three years(ish) so he’s basically just a AAA farm system for DCEU. Instead of announcing then falling out like Justice League Dark. The point I think is to have a strong creative to get the characters off the bench.

They have a majority of the JL done. So what exactly would Gunn be needed for except to find creative teams to get Metal Men or Platic Man up on the big screen and keep the fires burning on the JL. Not to make them fit not his style.
 

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Not really.

Feige was in for the long haul with goals.

Gunn has a four year deal as of now. The cycle of these movies are three years(ish) so he’s basically just a AAA farm system for DCEU. Instead of announcing then falling out like Justice League Dark. The point I think is to have a strong creative to get the characters off the bench.

They have a majority of the JL done. So what exactly would Gunn be needed for except to find creative teams to get Metal Men or Platic Man up on the big screen and keep the fires burning on the JL. Not to make them fit not his style.

That analogy doesn't quite work, because the AAA team still has to follow the guidelines of the GM, and maybe whoever's watching the finances.

In this case, Gunn is the GM. He's head of the creative side for DC, and the other guy is basically the bean counter. As such, he's the one shaping the overall creative vision, even if it's only for a few years. The length of the contract suggests less that he doesn't have any real power (otherwise they could've made up any other title than co-CEO), and more that both sides might have been a bit gunshy about committing long term right out the gate.
 

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That analogy doesn't quite work, because the AAA team still has to follow the guidelines of the GM, and maybe whoever's watching the finances.

In this case, Gunn is the GM. He's head of the creative side for DC, and the other guy is basically the bean counter. As such, he's the one shaping the overall creative vision, even if it's only for a few years. The length of the contract suggests less that he doesn't have any real power (otherwise they could've made up any other title than co-CEO), and more that both sides might have been a bit gunshy about committing long term right out the gate.
Sorry. I’m not a baseball person.

I just meant in terms of bringing up lesser character, like Peacmaker, to the big leagues. Gunn has shown the ability to do that on both sides and has already been a script doctor.

I don’t think he has the creative control you believe. Reeves has Batman under lock. Wan has Aquaman. And Flash….we’ll he’s a work in progress. Jenkins probably gets help with Wonder Woman but I doubt a fellow director will be dictating another director’s work.

The only directive we’ve seen from WBD is to move away from HBOMax back to theaters. That’s not Gunn’s decision.
 

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Sorry. I’m not a baseball person.

I just meant in terms of bringing up lesser character, like Peacmaker, to the big leagues. Gunn has shown the ability to do that on both sides and has already been a script doctor.

I don’t think he has the creative control you believe. Reeves has Batman under lock. Wan has Aquaman. And Flash….we’ll he’s a work in progress. Jenkins probably gets help with Wonder Woman but I doubt a fellow director will be dictating another director’s work.

The only directive we’ve seen from WBD is to move away from HBOMax back to theaters. That’s not Gunn’s decision.

But moving back to theaters is a financial decision, and they've said he doesn't have anything to do with that. He's the head of creative for them. So, all writers, directors, and producers (outside of financial decisions) have him at the top of the org chart.

Reeves can come up with all the ideas he wants, but if Gunn had an issue with the path he wants to go down, it's a problem for Reeves before it's a problem for Gunn.

So, like I said before, he's not going to write everything, but he'll inevitably end up picking people and projects that appeal to what he likes. That's natural of anyone in that position.
 

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But moving back to theaters is a financial decision, and they've said he doesn't have anything to do with that. He's the head of creative for them. So, all writers, directors, and producers (outside of financial decisions) have him at the top of the org chart.

Kind of. Money is money. Financials decisions wouldn‘t care where it was coming from.
Creative decisions for a streaming show vs a theater are different. So Gunn and Safran have to make their decisions about how and what they adapt with those in mind.

Gunn has a deep knowledge of dc lore. So creatively, he can see which pitches are more like to get good reviews and chances of a strong box office. That’s not necessarily his creative vision cause he’s got the shackle of only being able to do movies and less tv.

Reeves can come up with all the ideas he wants, but if Gunn had an issue with the path he wants to go down, it's a problem for Reeves before it's a problem for Gunn.

So, like I said before, he's not going to write everything, but he'll inevitably end up picking people and projects that appeal to what he likes. That's natural of anyone in that position.
This isn’t true at all.

We already know Reeves is hiring his own writers and teams for solo series about Batman villains. He’s running his own thing cause his movie made money. Same goes for Wan and there’s already a script for Flash 2 supposedly.

wan pitched a horror show to the past regime but if Aquaman 2 does well he’ll probably get full control to his kingdom as well.
 

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Kind of. Money is money. Financials decisions wouldn‘t care where it was coming from.
Creative decisions for a streaming show vs a theater are different. So Gunn and Safran have to make their decisions about how and what they adapt with those in mind.

Gunn has a deep knowledge of dc lore. So creatively, he can see which pitches are more like to get good reviews and chances of a strong box office. That’s not necessarily his creative vision cause he’s got the shackle of only being able to do movies and less tv.


This isn’t true at all.

We already know Reeves is hiring his own writers and teams for solo series about Batman villains. He’s running his own thing cause his movie made money. Same goes for Wan and there’s already a script for Flash 2 supposedly.

wan pitched a horror show to the past regime but if Aquaman 2 does well he’ll probably get full control to his kingdom as well.

Reeves and Wan still need to get that shyt approved though, breh. They can't just make whatever they want, and expect to get a check from Earned paying for it.

And even if Aquaman 2 is a success, he still needs to sell Gunn on it, because Gunn is the head of creative. It's part of why a lot of directors aren't fans of doing comic book work. No matter how much leeway you're supposed to have, it's essentially high end contract work. DC has been looser, since Snyder was supposed to be the de facto leader, but they botched his exit, and as such, they've been all over the place. Hiring someone in Gunn's position is meant to clean all that up, and it wouldn't make sense to do all this to just let the directors call all the shots.
 

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Today is Julia Roberts birthday, I want her in the DCEU just because she's Julia Roberts, but I can't think of who yet. I don't care if they have to age up a character, get me Jules.

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Reeves and Wan still need to get that shyt approved though, breh. They can't just make whatever they want, and expect to get a check from Earned paying for it.

And even if Aquaman 2 is a success, he still needs to sell Gunn on it, because Gunn is the head of creative. It's part of why a lot of directors aren't fans of doing comic book work. No matter how much leeway you're supposed to have, it's essentially high end contract work. DC has been looser, since Snyder was supposed to be the de facto leader, but they botched his exit, and as such, they've been all over the place. Hiring someone in Gunn's position is meant to clean all that up, and it wouldn't make sense to do all this to just let the directors call all the shots.
What are you talking about?

The Penguin series was approved months ago and they hired a showrunner. Gunn’s contract doesn’t start until Nov 1. Obviously they are letting Reeves move independently and gave him more options to tell stories cause they like what he’s doing.


I don’t think this is the structure you think it is. Gunn isn’t Feige. Feige started on the ground floor. Gunn is coming in on a direction already started. He didn’t approve Cavill coming back. He’s not in charge of what happens with Ezra and the Flash. He didn’t approve Hawkman and the JSA showing up. Wan probably already knows what he wants to doin Aquaman 3 if he makes it. Shazam is under Sandberg as long as he wants.

Superman and Wonder Woman do need his help.

Gunn is still in charge of Peacemaker and his Suicide Squad part of the universe. He doesnt have time to micromanage. So yeah the directors will be in charge of their individual lines. It’s Gunn job to find the best people to hand it off to like Reeves and Wan. If he only stays four years, the people he hires will be there long after him.
 
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Sounds like they will be back to having a persistent world with an ongoing story told across multiple films like Marvel does.
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A new universe but the 2023 slate is already in the can. That four-year deal feels like three. They really have to hit the ground running.
 
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