Jalen Rose's Top 10 NBA players of ALL TIME yall notice who missing

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How he got Duncan over Olajuwon?
Don't think about it... your head will explode.

But, Tim was trained by (and arguably surpassed) David Robinson. Olijawon and Robinson were neck and neck most of the time so I can see how he got there. Plus rings. It always comes down to rings with these analysts.
 

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i'd take kobe off and put lebron up there.

if i had to narrow it down to 10, instead of the sneak 11 that he put up there, i would probably drop duncan.

Surprised Dr. J isn't on that list, don't know if the Big O deserves that pedestal either.


big o can be #1.
 

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in 2008 he beat Duncan (rather easily) with only Pau Gasol. remember Bynum was injured. Kobe won with a starting lineup of Fisher, Radmanovich, Odom, and Gasol over Timmy, Manu, and Parker.

to me 2008 was the death nail for any kobe v. duncan comparison. with comprable teams where both are the undisputed leader, Kobe owned him. in particular Kobe dominated games 1 and 5. most folks don't remember but the Spurs outplayed the Lakers for many stretches of those games. It was only after Kobe went crazy in the 4th that the lakers pulled away.

the only dudes with claims against kobe from his era is Shaq and LeBron. Duncan is not in their class. he was just fortunate to have been on loaded teams his entire career. started alongside a HOFer in Robinson and is now finishing alongside HOFers in Manu and Parker. just remember, duncan has never played a season without a HOF teammate.

Ridiculous post. Duncan wasn't in his prime in 2008, and the Lakers had a good team. I hate when nikkas try to rewrite history. That Lakers team was picked to win the championship by a bunch of analysts after the Gasol trade (even with Bynum's injury, they were the favorites over the fukking Celtics). The closest they were to both being at their peak was between 03-06 and Duncan was winning MVP's and championships during that period.

Kobe/Duncan is very debatable. If anything, Shaq is the one who is separated from them if we're talking about peak vs peak. Kobe and Duncan aren't close to prime Shaq, their longevity is the reason there is a debate. But Kobe and Duncan have similar individual and team resumes. I'd go with Timmy because a dominant big is always better to build around than a dominant wing. Lebron and Jordan are the only exceptions.

David Robinson was at the end of his career when Duncan played with him. He had 1 legit all star season with Duncan, he was a role player after 2000. Manu and Parker are fringe HOFers at best and neither one of them were close to All Stars when the Spurs won the title in 2003. Duncan won a title in '03 as the ONLY all star on his team, something Kobe has never done.
 
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:rudy: @ the underrating of Bird. Why is Magic ahead of him? Bird was universally considered the better player when they were both in their prime playing against each other, now all of a sudden Bird is barely top 10 and Magic is top 5?

RINGS MATTER. Magic has 5 titles. Bird has only 3. also Bird flamed out quicker (back issues). he was irrelevant by the late 80s while magic was still winning and dominant at a later stage of his career.
 
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no king james:stopitslime:

he should definitely be in there is bird is all the way at #5. only thing bird has on bron is one more title. thats it. everything else bron has on him.

bird is becoming one of the most overrated players ever. he mighta been in class with magic at his peak but that shyt was short. in terms of overall career he's near the bottom of the top 10.
 

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RINGS MATTER. Magic has 5 titles. Bird has only 3. also Bird flamed out quicker (back issues). he was irrelevant by the late 80s while magic was still winning and dominant at a later stage of his career.
Bird had a shorter career and the East was tougher than the West back then. Although they were both on stacked teams, the Lakers were always a little deeper too. Bird's peak numbers completely shyt all over Magics. He was putting up 28/10/7 on 50/40/90 (a stat Lebron desperately wishes he could achieve) between '84-'88. I can understand putting Magic over him, I just don't get how Magic is top 5 and Bird "barely" deserves to be in the top 10.
 

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I ain't gonna put it in a particular order cause the order changes too often for me but mine would include

MJ
Kareem
Wilt
Russell
Magic
Bird
Shaq
Kobe
Duncan
Hakeem
 
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Ridiculous post. Duncan wasn't in his prime in 2008, and the Lakers had a good team. I hate when nikkas try to rewrite history. That Lakers team was picked to win the championship by a bunch of analysts after the Gasol trade (even with Bynum's injury, they were the favorites over the fukking Celtics). The closest they were to both being at their peak was between 03-06 and Duncan was winning MVP's and championships during that period.

:comeon: he was 31 years old and put up 19ppg, 11rpg, and 2bpg (right at his career averages). he was 2nd team all-nba and 1st team all-defense. he might not have been at his absolute peak (age 25/26), but neither was Kobe. Kobe won his last 2 rings (without Shaq and as the man) at age 30 and 31 with more miles on his legs than Duncan did in 2008.

29 year old kobe vs. 31 year old duncan is about as close to both being in their primes as the mans as we're gonna get. sure i woulda liked to see 25 year old kobe go against 25 year old duncan. but we didn't get that. 29 vs. 31 is close enough. and in that battle of evenly matched teams, Kobe WON.

the reason people were picking the Lakers was not because Duncan was washed up. It was because Kobe was HANDS DOWN the best player in the world at that time. folks were picking the Lakers because of Kobe.
 
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Bird had a shorter career and the East was tougher than the West back then. Although they were both on stacked teams, the Lakers were always a little deeper too. Bird's peak numbers completely shyt all over Magics. He was putting up 28/10/7 on 50/40/90 (a stat Lebron desperately wishes he could achieve) between '84-'88. I can understand putting Magic over him, I just don't get how Magic is top 5 and Bird "barely" deserves to be in the top 10.

having a short flurry of success don't do it for me over a longer period of sustained greantess.

gale sayers ain't higher than emitt smith on the all-time rb rankings no matter how amazing he was in those 2 or 3 years he played.
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
especially duncan since shaq dominated him almost every time they played. there was not one moment during the early 2000s (even when duncan was gettin mvps) where any GM would take duncan over shaq to build a team around. not one. so the fact they got duncan ahead of shaq in the all-time list is a farce.


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Not that you'd ever do research, but Duncan scored more and outrebounded Shaq in their matchups.
 
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