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Very cute of you to not cut and paste the full quote lol
The rest of the quote wasn't worthy
Very cute of you to not cut and paste the full quote lol
Stats and accomplishments not being worth now...only coli nikkasThe rest of the quote wasn't worthy
Iverson imo...and I think Wade knows this as well.
still dying for an argument
Iverson statistically is better in nearly every category on average and I respect the hell out of Wade...you won't find me talking about him dirty like that.
Their resumes are pretty close...
AI
Wade
- NBA Most Valuable Player (2001)
- 11× NBA All-Star (2000–2010)
- 2× NBA All-Star Game MVP (2001, 2005)
- 3× All-NBA First Team (1999, 2001, 2005)
- 3× All-NBA Second Team (2000, 2002, 2003)
- All-NBA Third Team (2006)
- NBA Rookie of the Year (1997)
- NBA Rookie Challenge MVP (1997)
- 4× NBA scoring champion (1999, 2001, 2002, 2005)
- 3× NBA steals leader (2001–2003)
- 3× NBA champion (2006, 2012, 2013)
- NBA Finals MVP (2006)
- 12× NBA All-Star (2005–2016)
- NBA All-Star Game MVP (2010)
- 2× All-NBA First Team (2009, 2010)
- 3× All-NBA Second Team (2005, 2006, 2011)
- 3× All-NBA Third Team (2007, 2012, 2013)
- 3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2005, 2009, 2010)
- NBA All-Rookie First Team (2004)
- NBA scoring champion (2009)
- 2× NBA Skills Challenge champion (2006, 2007)
But as an individual talent...it's AI...and it aint even close.
Several that are the train wreck this thread is quickly becomingDon't we have a long ass thread on this?
as an elite player...none of them really did.If Wade never backed down to Kobe or Lebron u think he sees an Iverson ? GTFOH.
Lol "best season"...notice the back peddling herenikka, are you high? Post Iverson and Wade's best seasons and show me where Iverson was better.
Wade scored slightly less on much higher efficiency, averaged more or the same amount of assists, averaged more rebounds, is the 2nd best shot blocking guard if all time, has better numbers in the playoffs, and led his team to a ring.
HE ALSO DID THAT WHILE PLAYING FAR LESS MINUTES PER GAME.
POST THE STATS, nikka.
Stats and accomplishments not being worth now...only coli nikkas
you posted comparable resumes and stats, thats not worthy, because they are COMPARABLE (even though AI has never sniffed an All-Defensive team in his life, but whatever I'll still give you that)
you said AI is better individual talent than Wade, and "its not even close". The fact that you dont even think its debatable it is
you are entirely too grown for me to have to break this down for you
No player has been diminished more by analytics than Iverson.
10 years ago alot of people had him as a top 15 player of all time and a consensus top 3 shooting guard ever. People were seduced by his gaudy numbers.
Then...PER happened...then EFG% happened.....then defensive rating happened
And now.....you see he wasn't even better than Clyde Drexler. So why should he be compared to Wade?
AI was and always will be bigger than basketball tho so debates like this will always continue
That's not how it works breh.Let's post the resumes again and highlite the differences so we can compare...
AI
- NBA Most Valuable Player (2001)
- 11× NBA All-Star (2000–2010)
- 2× NBA All-Star Game MVP (2001, 2005)
- 3× All-NBA First Team (1999, 2001, 2005)
- 3× All-NBA Second Team (2000, 2002, 2003)
- All-NBA Third Team (2006)
- NBA Rookie of the Year (1997)
- NBA Rookie Challenge MVP (1997)
- 4× NBA scoring champion (1999, 2001, 2002, 2005)
- 3× NBA steals leader (2001–2003)
Wade
Wade has 3 rings and a finals MVP...
- 3× NBA champion (2006, 2012, 2013)
- NBA Finals MVP (2006)
- 12× NBA All-Star (2005–2016)
- NBA All-Star Game MVP (2010)
- 2× All-NBA First Team (2009, 2010)
- 3× All-NBA Second Team (2005, 2006, 2011)
- 3× All-NBA Third Team (2007, 2012, 2013)
- 3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2005, 2009, 2010)
- NBA All-Rookie First Team (2004)
- NBA scoring champion (2009)
- 2× NBA Skills Challenge champion (2006, 2007)
AI has the NBA MVP ...Wade doesn't
AI has All NBA First Team 3 times...Wade has it 2x
AI has all NBA Second Team 3 times...Wade has it 2x
Wade has ALl NBA 3rd Team 3x...AI has it once.
Wade has all NBA Defensive Second Team 3x
AI is the steals Champ 3X
AI is the League scoring Champ 4x...Wade ha s never been the scoring Champ
AI was ROY...Wade was all Rookie First Team.
All Star appearances are virtually the same...Wade has been there 12 times one All Star MVP
AI has been there 11x times with 2 All Star MVPs
Add to the fact that AI's personal resume statistically is better than Wade's in every category except maybe rebounds (obviously) and I think AI case is stronger.
Like I said...Wade is that dude...I like him, but you're either young and/or young AND dumb to state that Wade had a more impressive career individually.