I've Been Studying The Bible, Qu'ran, Hadith And The Teachings Of Elijah Muhammad For 20 Years...AMA

[Losttribe]

@KRS-TWO @Losttribe I've been thinking, in Revelations it says the dead will be risen up to be judged. So wouldn't that mean that nobody enters heaven until after judgement day and basically every person deceased is in a state of not being aware until the end of time.

You may be right

Spoiler: I think

Everyone gets it right away..... after "death."

But you judge and tell on yourself

Just like on the walls of ancient Egypt, kemet.... it shows the feather and the scale. Part of the reason many ancient groups , including in kemet , sometimes the grimy ones would be buried with gold or some metal over the heart.

Your heart will tell on you. You won't be able to justify. You're body will tell the intentions of your good and bad deeds.

Your heart should be lighter than a feather (symbolically ). "He has a heavy heart"

You are judged more when you know better and don't do better.
The "dead" ...doesn't mean a physical death but a mental one.

Some are ignorant, that why I believe the bible says everyone will get a chance.

Because if you didn't believe in shyt before. ..... at least in death you'll know that the universe has been created, there is One who is the best knower and planner, that energy is never lost, that your physical body was mainly a test and pathway to get you to where you need to go...
Then you can decide.

 

[David_TheMan]

A few questions.
1) Can you explain Judaism change from god being the top god in a polytheist frame work, evidenced by the 10 commandment of thou shall have no other god before me, and the other stories of Baalam using the power of his other gods to curse the hebrews, into the post exile morphing of the religion into true monotheism, where God is no longer top of all gods but the only god in existance, evidenced in the mt carmel story with Elijah?

2) Can you explain the judaism stance of God being again human sacrifices, yet god accepting Jephthat's daughter as a human sacrifice in Judges.

 

[DarkHorse23]

You may be right

Spoiler: I think

Everyone gets it right away..... after "death."

But you judge and tell on yourself

Just like on the walls of ancient Egypt, kemet.... it shows the feather and the scale. Part of the reason many ancient groups , including in kemet , sometimes the grimy ones would be buried with gold or some metal over the heart.

Your heart will tell on you. You won't be able to justify. You're body will tell the intentions of your good and bad deeds.

Your heart should be lighter than a feather (symbolically ). "He has a heavy heart"

You are judged more when you know better and don't do better.
The "dead" ...doesn't mean a physical death but a mental one.

Some are ignorant, that why I believe the bible says everyone will get a chance.

Because if you didn't believe in shyt before. ..... at least in death you'll know that the universe has been created, there is One who is the best knower and planner, that energy is never lost, that your physical body was mainly a test and pathway to get you to where you need to go...
Then you can decide.

What's really frustrating is how can god fault for me not blindly believing something like Jesus died for my sins. I haven't seen anything in my life for to believe in things like that except this one time I was going through a toll with my parents on my birthday( I believe) and this guy taking the change said he wanted to speak to me and he said "not to worry God has a plan for you" ( paraphrasing). That's the closest I've gotten to experiencing something supernatural. Other than that all I see is most people suffering and a few select getting everything they want based on money, sex appeal or whatever

 

[Neuromancer]

you believe in Yakub?

Good question to ask.

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

@KRS-TWO @Losttribe I've been thinking, in Revelations it says the dead will be risen up to be judged. So wouldn't that mean that nobody enters heaven until after judgement day and basically every person deceased is in a state of not being aware until the end of time.

That's exactly what it means. You don't die and automatically go to heaven

 

[DarkHorse23]

That's exactly what it means. You don't die and automatically go to heaven

Well if i'm in the ground, how am I not dead? I'm physically dead to society.

 

[Neuromancer]

That's exactly what it means. You don't die and automatically go to heaven

Where do the dead go then?

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

Well if i'm in the ground, how am I not dead? I'm physically dead to society.

You are dead until GOD raise you from the dead to be judge.

Where do the dead go then?

To the ground. Waiting to be judged. Then on judgement day you find out if you make it into the kingdom or experience the 2nd death

 

[Neuromancer]

You are dead until GOD raise you from the dead to be judge.

To the ground. Waiting to be judged. Then on judgement day you find out if you make it into the kingdom or experience the 2nd death

So why aren't there more hauntings? Or less hauntings?

 

[GreenGrass]

do you agree with the following text below

Spoiler

True occult philosophy believes the following:

1. The Messiah will return and gather His people, resurrect His dead from the grave.
2. The Messiah will depart with His people to a place close to the center of the galaxy.
3. Lucifer will resurrect his people and create his kingdom on earth which will last forever

NOTE: Lucifer believes he has legal domain over the souls which are deceived (true)... He wishes to be like God and have a kingdom where he can rule and be worshiped for eternity.

The Bible states the following:

1. The Messiah will return and gather His people, resurrect His dead from the grave.
2. The Messiah will kill everyone on earth with the "light of his coming" - satan will be bound for 1000 years because all people on the earth are dead.
3. The Messiah will resurrect the entire earth population: everyone that ever lived and was not taken in the first resurrection will live again. (this is the time of judgment) Lucifer will be loosed again because there are people alive on earth again. Lucifer will most likely claim that he had raised those people and gather them for the FINAL battle. Needless to say they will encamp around the Messiah's new city, and those who were deceived (yet again) will be destroyed, this time permanently.
4. God will destroy the heavens and the earth (physical and spiritual realms) effectively destroying all of the taint of the first creation.
5. God will create a new heaven and a new earth

This sounds way far out but there is a major revelation here that both the true occult and the Bible agree to although the mainstream occult denies: There is no afterlife, there is no eternal soul... that was satan's first lie: "you shall not surely die!"

The END a long ways off... but the Messiah is coming again soon, in the flesh, everyone on earth will see it, and then die. For 1000 years the earth will be vacant, the Messiah's people will be learning all of the mysteries of the history of the universe and preparing the infrastructure for the next resurrection and judgment. Judgment is not a bad thing at all! Those who accept the instruction from the Messiah and His people will be saved as well... those who never knew the truth and died will have a chance. You will meet your forefathers, and teach them everything you learned! Murderers will face those they have murdered, face to face, and learn forgiveness. The time of judgment will last a long time and I imagine there will be no death at this time, people will think they are immortal which will give satan the edge that he needs for his very last deception.

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[Man]

Who exactly is Melchezedek and is he still alive today?

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

So why aren't there more hauntings? Or less hauntings?

Have no clue what you are talking about

 

[Neuromancer]

Have no clue what you are talking about

I'm aware of that now.

 

[Dominoes]

Lool you cant twist the quran like people have with the bible, are they not millions killings people and suicide bombers as we speak. Your hilarious

The Quran is easier to contextualize; it doesn't have close to the amount of versions, it isn't as long, and it's more recent in history.
I admit that there are uncle Ameds that care more about being a good 'Arab' than being a good Muslim, but you'll find those types in every ideology so I'm not going to blame Islam for something already in their dna. Instead II will blame those using Islam to cause division and confusion.



Western society's Bible has so many versions and some original books omitted. I believe Ethiopian Orthodox Christians have the most books in theirs, but all I see are Black people with western goggles following the Bible that Europeans chose for us. Don't get me started on the psychological damage Black people willingly subject ourselves to when we proudly worship the white-washed image of Jesus.
I'll add that the KKK has Christian ties and have been allowed to torment non-White people since their inception; some of them have even traded in their white cloak for gavels and handcuffs. I'm not going to sit here and claim that all Christians think and act KKK members though...




Have you read the Quran? I have and I can certainly see how tyrannical lunatics could influence thousands to do evil; but some of the greatest people I know, and studied we're born Muslim or converted. So I went back and did my research without my western and hotep goggles; I realized even more the lengths European leaders would go to to make sure Africans remained divided and ignorant.
There's a bunch of history books from African perspectives to find out what Africans thought of Islam, how they dealt with the so-called Arab conquest of Africa, and how Islam really affected Africa (Christianity and Judaism as well).
Some of the greatest west African kings we're Muslim; they also allowed traditional African belief systems to be practiced while they ruled as Muslims. It isn't as simple as "Arabs attacked Africans under Islam".

 

[Losttribe]

do you agree with the following text below

Spoiler

True occult philosophy believes the following:

1. The Messiah will return and gather His people, resurrect His dead from the grave.
2. The Messiah will depart with His people to a place close to the center of the galaxy.
3. Lucifer will resurrect his people and create his kingdom on earth which will last forever

NOTE: Lucifer believes he has legal domain over the souls which are deceived (true)... He wishes to be like God and have a kingdom where he can rule and be worshiped for eternity.

The Bible states the following:

1. The Messiah will return and gather His people, resurrect His dead from the grave.
2. The Messiah will kill everyone on earth with the "light of his coming" - satan will be bound for 1000 years because all people on the earth are dead.
3. The Messiah will resurrect the entire earth population: everyone that ever lived and was not taken in the first resurrection will live again. (this is the time of judgment) Lucifer will be loosed again because there are people alive on earth again. Lucifer will most likely claim that he had raised those people and gather them for the FINAL battle. Needless to say they will encamp around the Messiah's new city, and those who were deceived (yet again) will be destroyed, this time permanently.
4. God will destroy the heavens and the earth (physical and spiritual realms) effectively destroying all of the taint of the first creation.
5. God will create a new heaven and a new earth

This sounds way far out but there is a major revelation here that both the true occult and the Bible agree to although the mainstream occult denies: There is no afterlife, there is no eternal soul... that was satan's first lie: "you shall not surely die!"

The END a long ways off... but the Messiah is coming again soon, in the flesh, everyone on earth will see it, and then die. For 1000 years the earth will be vacant, the Messiah's people will be learning all of the mysteries of the history of the universe and preparing the infrastructure for the next resurrection and judgment. Judgment is not a bad thing at all! Those who accept the instruction from the Messiah and His people will be saved as well... those who never knew the truth and died will have a chance. You will meet your forefathers, and teach them everything you learned! Murderers will face those they have murdered, face to face, and learn forgiveness. The time of judgment will last a long time and I imagine there will be no death at this time, people will think they are immortal which will give satan the edge that he needs for his very last deception.

Yikes

Any insight on this?