I've Been Studying The Bible, Qu'ran, Hadith And The Teachings Of Elijah Muhammad For 20 Years...AMA

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According to the texts,

Will I go to hell if I disobey god?

And if that's true for me, is it true for people if other faiths who despite living righteous lives, are not in line with the judeo-Christian god?

I wonder about this too. Like Siddhartha was a good man. What happens to him?
 

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According to the texts,

Will I go to hell if I disobey god?

And if that's true for me, is it true for people if other faiths who despite living righteous lives, are not in line with the judeo-Christian god?
God is a just god...We are judged on our deeds and faith...God is a jealous god...there should be no one or thing that is made his equal:yeshrug:
 

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Your sarcasm is Corny against facts and mathmatics.

And slavery has happened on Earth long before Jesus was even conceptualize in the middle part of Asia , northern africa,,,, (white man calls middle east). Jesus was from the middle east.

And the slavery you're talking about. ....Tran Atlantic. ..
Happened because of the True nature of a people who can't create. A people who have a limited time here. A people who is rejected by the planet and even rejected by the Sun (that gives life to our galaxy )

In all the other universes and galaxies.... the different suns reject the unnatural beings as well.

It's our mistakes that we learn from....
Instead of letting them die out like all other sub species. ..

We took them Out the caves of Europe, taught them about ancient African culture, ancient rome, etc.... gave them knowledge of themselves and us. Gave them civilization and technology.

They used manipulation through trade to get a few of us from Africa. .... and to kill and manipulate the rest of Us who were already in the wilderness of North Amerikka

They copied the culture and technology of asians and africans. ...... and the only thing they pioneered was a New form of slavery called Chattel.

That Chattel. ... and Jim crow... and all their other devilish ways wasn't due to Jesus. ..... it was due to their true nature and our foolish thoughts that we could change that nature in 700 years.
What do you think of the Dogon people and their supposed origins from the Sirius star system?
 

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This is ridiculous. God supposedly makes a book for all mankind but unless you know Arabic you'll never truly understand it? :martin:
If you read what I said..

It says, you don't need to know arabic.
 

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According to the texts,

Will I go to hell if I disobey god?

And if that's true for me, is it true for people if other faiths who despite living righteous lives, are not in line with the judeo-Christian god?

You have sinned tho, you cannot say you have not ever sinned in your life because every man has sinned. The wages of sin is death, eternal damnation in hell. Only the blood of Jesus washes away your sin so without believe in Jesus Christ the sin you have commited, even if it is one sin in your entire life will take you to hell because you are still guilty of sin
 

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That quote is about killing someone for breaking GOD's laws. It's saying we should be trying to convince people to not sin. They didn't want to do that, they just wanted to play executioner. We are in the business of saving souls and telling people to stop sinning so they can enter the kingdom of heaven.

We have all sinned, but that don't mean we should keep sinning. Paul touched on that


Romans 6:1-2
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Romans 6:15
What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.


Paul is saying just because you were born into a world full of sin, should we just say "fukk it" and keep sinning? Hell naw
Yes but in the verses you pointed out showed that "we know that God heareth not sinners" but it is impossible to walk through this life without sinning...after no one was able to throw a stone only The Christ and that woman stood there, because Christ was the only one that wasn't a sinner....so if we all sin daily...then how does God hear us....

These things are contradictory...I'm sure you can agree...you do not find these contradictions in The Qur'an and the teachings of Elijah Muhammad
 

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Yes but in the verses you pointed out showed that "we know that God heareth not sinners" but it is impossible to walk through this life without sinning...after no one was able to throw a stone only The Christ and that woman stood there, because Christ was the only one that wasn't a sinner....so if we all sin daily...then how does God hear us....

These things are contradictory...I'm sure you can agree...you do not find these contradictions in The Qur'an and the teachings of Elijah Muhammad


Its easy to understand. GOD only hears the prayers of the ones that repented and no longer break GOD'S laws. If you are STILL IN THE MIST OF SIN AND REFUSE TO OBEY GOD, then he doesn't deal with you. For example, if i pull out the bible and read for the first time ever that this act that im currently doing goes against the will of GOD. I decide im no longer going to commit that act, ask GOD for forgiveness, start teaching others to no longer do that act, THEN GOD WILL HEAR THEIR PRAYERS. Its a simple process.


Nehemiah 1:9

But if ye turn unto me, and keep my commandments, and do them; though there were of you cast out unto the uttermost part of the heaven, yet will I gather them from thence, and will bring them unto the place that I have chosen to set my name there.


Deuteronomy 30:2
And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;

Ezekiel 14:6
Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols; and turn away your faces from all your abominations.

Ezekiel 18:30
Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.

1 Samuel 7:3
And Samuel spake unto all the house of Israel, saying, If ye do return unto the LORD with all your hearts, then put away the strange gods and Ashtaroth from among you, and prepare your hearts unto the LORD, and serve him only: and he will deliver you out of the hand of the Philistines.

Genesis 35:2
Then Jacob said unto his household, and to all that were with him, Put away the strange gods that are among you, and be clean, and change your garments:


And in closing
1 John 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
 
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Yes but in the verses you pointed out showed that "we know that God heareth not sinners" but it is impossible to walk through this life without sinning...after no one was able to throw a stone only The Christ and that woman stood there, because Christ was the only one that wasn't a sinner....so if we all sin daily...then how does God hear us....

These things are contradictory...I'm sure you can agree...you do not find these contradictions in The Qur'an and the teachings of Elijah Muhammad

It isnt contradictory, God doesnt hear sinners everybody has sinned but not everybody sins daily. The blood of Jesus Christ washes away your sins. If you believe that Jesus Christ is God and dedicate your life to following him and ask him for forgiveness he will forgive your sins. The bible says he will blott out your transgressions and present you spotless before the father.Just like the Jews used to sacrifice lambs without blemish to attone for their wrongs Jesus Christ was our sacrificial lamb who died and took the punishment for our sins if only we believe in him, once you belive in him and strive to follow him you are no longer a sinner for he nails your sins to the cross with him and forgets they ever happened and treats you like you are sinless

Does that mean we are free to sin? No because the bible states those who are truly in christ and truly belive in him are dead to sin, they strive to live a life without sin and strive to carry their cross everyday and do not continue in their life of sin. That also doesnt mean you go on without sinning for the rest of your life either, it is also possible to stumble, abraham sinned, david sinned but both ackownledged their sin before God and sincerly asked him for forgiveness and after they had done that they did not continue in their sins but strived to live a perfect life for God
 
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What do you think of the Dogon people and their supposed origins from the Sirius star system?
Dogon have had this knowledge since before they fled to mali and set up their dogon villages
Before 4000 bc, they knew of the star and modern science has to catch up.
They know that these stars are older than our Earth.... so they know that we all originated somewhere other than Earth and that happens to be the place they have a connection to,,, regardless if we can't view it w the naked eye. Imo.

But I don't know 100% as they've never been obligated to show and prove their history like we have been.

On a side note..... I believe (not know) white people want to study them, these stars, and send voices and pictures and different languages into space.... to attract the attention of whoever can save man kind (Caucasians )
From global warming, indengious Human back lash, rise of Asian powers, low birth rates, bone disease and mental illness.

Anyway, the dogon.... just like all groups will make the same mistake of not separating. ... then they will take on religion.

We wouldn't need islam if we were living our natural lives and after lives. We wouldn't need religion or science or tricks because we'd have the power we need.
In this current day most young dogon nikkas just trying to get money and fukk bytches like everyone else. They are taking regular jobs and not Maintaining their villages...... and of course they are now Christian, muslim, jew and other random combos. Most young ones can't even SEE the stars without modern technology.
The devil is good at making us powerless like him.
Making us unlike ancient kemet aND more like modern usa. Using tech to do things we should be able to do Naturally
 

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Its easy to understand. GOD only hears the prayers of the ones that repented and no longer break GOD'S laws. If you are STILL IN THE MIST OF SIN AND REFUSE TO OBEY GOD, then he doesn't deal with you. For example, if i pull out the bible and read for the first time ever that this act that im currently doing goes against the will of GOD. I decide im no longer going to commit that act, ask GOD for forgiveness, start teaching others to no longer do that act, THEN GOD WILL HEAR THEIR PRAYERS. Its a simple process.
We are always in the midst of sin....U can't escape it...we are not Allah or The Christ.....To believe that God is a just god and to believe that justice is to have one person pay for another persons sins is backward and contradictory to what God is....God has shown nothing but justice except when it comes to The Christ and him paying for everyone's sins:mindblown: To ignore that coupled with The Christ saying himself that there is someone that will come after me that will convict on righteousness and sin, is one the reason I believe in Isalm:ahh:...We are all sinners you cant escape it....

Would it be justice if you were a thief and you repented to God for being a thief and never stole a thing for 20 years and lived as righteously as you could, but you decided to steal a banana because you had no money and was hungry...and 5 minutes later the Day of Judgement hit....Would God say oh well it's eternal hell for you, or would he do the just thing and rightfully send you to heaven:blessed:
 

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God is a just god...We are judged on our deeds and faith...God is a jealous god...there should be no one or thing that is made his equal:yeshrug:


Follower of the faith in question always say that, but I said ACCORDING TO THE TEXT.

You might think I'm a good man but will God see it that way in spite of eating port, having sex before marriage, maturation, etc... what does the book say about that.


And if what you think and the book says differ, why aren't you "in line" with the book?
 

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Why do the "christians" celebrate pagan holidays ?
their religion is corrupted by man and hearsay :francis:

what kind of religion allows its followers to turn the image of it's "God" Jesus into a white man (when HE IS NOT)

Muhammad pbuh specifically forbid his followers from creating his image FOR THE SOLE reason that people should not worship him, for he is just a man. And they need to Worship the GOD of The Quran, Bible and Torah

:wow: :blessed:
 

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Follower of the faith in question always say that, but I said ACCORDING TO THE TEXT.

You might think I'm a good man but will God see it that way in spite of eating port, having sex before marriage, maturation, etc... what does the book say about that.


And if what you think and the book says differ, why aren't you "in line" with the book?
One thing that my Christian brothers have taught me is that it is important to have a personal relationship with God.
Allah knows best. Allah speaks to us through our prayers...there is deep science on "ask and you shall receive"
According to text...yes disobedience to God will send you to hell...the issue is how do you know if you are disobeying or not...the only way to truly know is to be in communication with God

As far as people of other faiths that's something that I struggle with, I don't have a clear coherent answer for that:francis:
 
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