It's time to OFFICIALLY dead all that Beyoncé vs. Michael Jackson who is bigger propaganda that the Beyhive been pushing on socials...

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Example #5,678,249 of MJ fans being obsessed with Beyoncé and the BeyHive. Beyoncé will have the #1 movie this week domestically as not just the performer and artist but the director as well. And the movie is fantastic.
no michael jackson fans were starting threads on this website about michael jackson vs beyonce until her stupid fans started the insecure shyt

it only came from weirdo obsessed fans on the other side

the LSA side

the side there is an amazon series about side

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Beyonce ain't bigger than Taylor Swift if we being honest.
In fairness, Taylor Swift is younger and white. That’s not taking away from her talent but I have to call it how I see it.

There are better singers than her and Adele, but their ‘non-threatening’ whiteness has propelled to places few black artists have reached.

That’s why MJ, Prince, Whitney Houston were important icons and yet equally polarizing when it came to their “blackness”. People were calling them sellouts when they crossed over to the mainstream.

In Whitney’s case, she was initially marketed to that audience, so she had to cross over to the “black” market. Similar to Dave Chappelle in many ways.
 

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:yeshrug:Compared to Off The Wall and Thriller



What you think of Invincible breh
I think invincible was meh overall but perspective is everything the man came out in the 70s its like watching Jordan on the wizards, the album was made by a artist damn near 40 years in the game and yet still Mike peaked on some tracks like rock my world and butterflies which are timeless songs

Respectfully I give Beyonce her flowers for what she do like I give mickey D's respect for 1 billion served but I'm not comparing a #6 with cheese to Ruth Chris a la carte:ld: that's what yall doin here.. let me ask you what is Beyonce comparable album to Invincible?
She has no album worthy to be in a conversation with a thriller, off the wall or bad. Not to mention a large percentage of Beyonce catalog is literally digital Bird babble like Single Ladies or girls run the world that would be on her greatest hits albums :dame:
 

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I think invincible was meh overall but perspective is everything the man came out in the 70s its like watching Jordan on the wizards, the album was made by a artist damn near 40 years in the game and yet still Mike peaked on some tracks like rock my world and butterflies which are timeless songs

Respectfully I give Beyonce her flowers for what she do like I give mickey D's respect for 1 billion served but I'm not comparing a #6 with cheese to Ruth Chris a la carte:ld: that's what yall doin here.. let me ask you what is Beyonce comparable album to Invincible?
She has no album worthy to be in a conversation with a thriller, off the wall or bad. Not to mention a large percentage of Beyonce catalog is literally digital Bird babble like Single Ladies or girls run the world that would be on her greatest hits albums :dame:

:russ:That was my point she technically doesn’t have a bad album MJ does

And I say this as a fan of MJ
 

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When you have mentally unstable allegedly ‘straight’ men such as @RickyDiBiase , hailing Beyonce as MJ’s equal, that tells you all you need to know. :mjlol:

You try way too hard
Let me just say, using the sales of her movie is a bad faith argument. Michael’s movie was made posthumously. It’s like with the Dark Knight being released after Heath Ledger’s death: the hype around it will never be matched.

I’ll give Beyonce props… she is an amazing performer. She’s the closest to MJ, James Brown, Prince when it comes to live performances. She can sing live well and put on a show. She puts a lot of artists today to shame.

That being said, she is NOT an artist. A true artist doesn’t need a dozen song writers and producers to make an album. That’s what performers do. Sticking your name on as a song writer for changing one or two words is a joke.

This is not to denigrate performers because Whitney Houston was a performer but she is highly revered because of her voice. Same with Usher. He’s not known for his penmanship but he’s one of the best performers ever.

Artists are Stevie Wonder, Mariah Carey, Prince, MJ, Nina Simone. People who can write/Co-write their own songs as well as play instruments. These “Bey-hive” deter casual fans because they hype her up on fallacious arguments.

Once Beyonce pens a whole album with only one or two producers, with her being the sole writer of at least half the album (or at least only one or two others), then you can put her up in the upper echelon of artists. For now, she’ll always be known as an elite performer.

If I’m wrong… define the ‘Beyonce sound’. You can’t because she’s never had her own identity. She used the hottest producers to give her a sound. Just like Justin Timberlake needed the Neptunes and Timbaland.

Prince had his own sound. Michael Jackson did. James Brown. Stevie Wonder. Beyonce NEVER has. And as much as I’m not a fan of Taylor Swift, I respect she knows how to write her own songs (with Co-writers), and not with a dozen producers with song writing camps.

You also just described Michael Jackson :mjlol:
 

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You try way too hard


You also just described Michael Jackson :mjlol:
Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad. Producer: Quincy Jones, Michael Jackson as co-producer.

Dangerous: Teddy Riley produced half of the album (Co-produced with Mike). Mike did the other half with Bill Bottrell.

History: mostly Michael again. With Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis doing a few tracks. And R Kelly of course.

Invincible is the only one you can say he went the “Beyonce” root with multiple producers. Which is why it’s considered his weakest because it sounded very unfocused.

But that aside, they all still had Michael’s signature sound, something Beyonce has never had. Michael evolved as a song writer. From writing three on Off The Wall. Four on thriller. 9/11 tracks on Bad. To then being the sole or Co-writer on his subsequent albums.

Like you can’t be this slow. Look at every Beyonce album. She had the “who’s hot” producer of that era. Whether it was The Neptunes, Scott Storch, Neyo/Stargate, Rich Harrison. And it’s always multiple writers. Name a Beyonce hit where she was the sole writer or it was her and just 1 and 2 others. She’s a follower, not a trend setter.

I know my music. Don’t test me on this. You can do your gay bipolar trolling on other topics but music is what I study and play. I know it inside out.
 
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Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad. Producer: Quincy Jones, Michael Jackson as co-producer.

Dangerous: Teddy Riley produced half of the album (Co-produced with Mike). Mike did the other half with Bill Bottrell.

History: mostly Michael again. With Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis doing a few tracks.

Invincible is the only one you can say he went the “Beyonce” root with multiple producers. Which is why it’s considered his weakest because is sounded very unfocused.

But that aside, they all still had Michael’s signature sound, something Beyonce has never had. Michael evolved as a song writer. From writing three on Off The Wall. Four on thriller. 9/11 tracks on Bad. To then being the sole or Co-writer on his subsequent albums.

Like you can’t be this slow. Look at every Beyonce album. She had the “who’s hot” producer of that era. Whether it was The Neptunes, Scott Storch, Neyo/Stargate, Rich Harrison.

I know my music. Don’t test me on this. You can do your gay bipolar trolling on other topics but music is what I study and play. I know it inside out.

“I know my music”

You’re an above average dude at your core so nothing you will ever say convince me of shyt

And Michael had song writers and reference tracks just like other pop stars of his time did. You up here blubbering like a scorn groupie because I have an opinion on a matter that’s entirely subjective

He wrote 7 songs in a 4 year period :mjlol:and most of the ones on a album I already mentioned was fukking bland as shyt

And your music you’ve played and studied is probably unremarkable just like everything else in your life you anti-social sociopathic dikk blower.
 
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