It's okay to talk about Black History, as long as we don't say we're the real Jews?

[Czar]

why did you not answer the questions? Do you believe that Adam was black? Do you believe that the first humans on this Earth are from Africa? Do you not believe that Nimrod (king of Babylon) was black even though he was the son of Cush?
Do you not believe that ancient Egypt was Kemet/black? if you do...why are they not black when Israel was confused with Egyptians in the old testament.

Adam was Reddish brown. His name is the root word for Red.

Life came from Africa, correct? Do me a favor and type African soil in Google images.

What color is the land again?


And we can agree that if a man was going to spawn both white AND black people within the context of scripture, then the hue of his sin and hair had to be inbetween both wooly and straight. We can use the description of Solomon's hair in Songs 5:11 to prove that point.

http://biblehub.com/lexicon/songs/5-11.htm

Not to mention the Shemites dwelled in a land that was between both the Japhetites AND Hamites. Just as their skintone was inbetween the darkest of Ham's children and the lightest of Japheth's.

As for the Egyptians...

Thing is, using that argument involves logical fallacy.

Considering the Egyptians came in more than one shade.

So which shade was moses? Was he the lighter shade or the darker? Lol

Now you understand why your argument is so flawed.

 

[ItWasWritten]

This sucka thread still going? See what you started, @TheMaster?

I only wanted the truth

judah and the other dudes beef is what keeps it pumping

 

[Czar]

Btw, @iLLaV3

Lol so Africans only stayed in Africa? Have you read up on the Cushytes? The Elamites were a direct result of Shemite and Cushyte intermixing. The first king of Babylon was Nimrod. Take a wild guess at what he was and where Babylon was located?

How about the Moors pushing into the Iberian Penisula and controlling it for 700 years? I don't think I need to mention what happened to the Sicilians.

How about Hannibal?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquests_of_Hannibal

Save the elementary level history lesson for someone else.

You had no idea what the Hamitic Hypothesis was until I schooled you on it a few months back. Yet you were cosigning others who promote it. Which says alot about you.

 

[MostReal]

Adam was Reddish brown. His name is the root word for Red.
Life came from Africa, correct? Do me a favor and type African soil in Google images.
What color is the land again?

As for the Egyptians...
So which shade was moses? Was he the lighter shade or the darker? Lol
Now you understand why your argument is so flawed.

My argument is sound...in fact so sound that you can't answer the questions with a yes or no.
So Adam was the color reddish/brown? and what color is that? Maroon right...just like the Jamaican Maroons right?
and the Clay of Africa that birth man...was Miry & baked...the Potter chose the best ...thank you for agreeing with the Word of God.
Also, what was the color of Nimrod...the King of Babylon, son of Cush?
as for Moses...it doesn't matter what shade of reddish/brown he was. He was a blackman...& that's all that matters
I knew one day you'd see the light

 

[Czar]

My argument is sound...in fact so sound that you can't answer the questions with a yes or no.
So Adam was the color reddish/brown? and what color is that? Maroon right...just like the Jamaican Maroons right?
and the Clay of Africa that birth man...was Miry & baked...the Potter chose the best ...thank you for agreeing with the Word of God.
Also, what was the color of Nimrod...the King of Babylon, son of Cush?
as for Moses...it doesn't matter what shade of reddish/brown he was. He was a blackman...& that's all that matters
I knew one day you'd see the light

Bruh, we've been through the whole "Maroon" argument. You got embarrassed and ran.

Here, lemme remind you.

I see @iLLaV3 is back to get ethered some more... and still using the theory of evolution to prove his points.

I low key caught you using that question in the "Hebrew Israelite" thread. I figured I'd leave you to your ignorance, but apparently that made you assume you were right.

Thing is, Maroon is the shortened english translation of the spanish term cimarrón, which they gave to the fugative slaves in the Americas and Caribbean. The term itself was incorporated from the taino word simaran, which means wild. The actually color maroon is granate in spanish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maroon_(people)

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cimarrón#Spanish


But let's play with your color theory.

Why did the spanish call the moors morenos or moros for short? Many moors were the same color as the West African slaves. Then again, why did they refer to the slaves as negros or black?

You can't use the excuse that they "didn't know the difference"

Cause Spain is right next to Africa.

Even more interesting, why didn't they refer to any of the Sephardic jews living in their country by any of those titles?

Google searching the color maroon will bring you differing shades. Of course you're gonna pick the darkest one. Why not mention maroon is actually the skin tone of the native americans? Who weren't black.

 

[Czar]

All the smilies in the world ain't gonna save you from the ether I'ma bout to give you @iLLaV3

Figured you woulda learned your lesson before, but you're just too hard headed.

Let's talk about visage. This was the same argument that got you ate up in the Hebrew Israelite thread.

http://biblehub.com/lexicon/lamentations/4-8.htm
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/2821.htm

chashak: to be or grow dark
Original Word: חָשַׁך
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: chashak
Phonetic Spelling: (khaw-shak')
Short Definition: darkened
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
a prim. root
Definition
to be or grow dark

To grow dark.... i.e, to DIE SLOWLY when used in this context. This makes sense when you look at Lamentations 4:9.

Now what color does skin turn when the body dies @iLLaV3 Lol

But let's completely ignore 4:7, which calls them among other things white, ruddy and blue, lol.

http://biblehub.com/lexicon/lamentations/4-7.htm

 

[Deaf2twothirds]

@LionofJudah Bruh I understand ur sincereness and steadfast for the truth but this here thecoli.com is the world & of the world. A haven for 2/3rds of Jake pure adulterous worldy ass niccas. Dont be Super Israelite all the time around these nikkas but be Clark Kent. By the time most of these niccas here wake up it will be to late and they will be missile food, die in fema camps, Die in the coming race wars, or the famine. You casting your pearls before swine. These nikkas n spics will get it right on the other side through Reincarnation. But you did mark these niccas and whosoever don't take heed will receive the aforementioned judgements.

 

[Czar]

Oh and @iLLaV3

Since i've answered all your questions, could you do me a favor and explain all this?

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel 47:22-23

It shall be that you will divide it by lot as an inheritance for yourselves, and for the strangers who dwell among you and who bear children among you. They shall be to you as native-born among the children of Israel; they shall have an inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel. And it shall be that in whatever tribe the stranger dwells, there you shall give him his inheritance,” says the Lord God.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus 19:34

"But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Esther 8:15-17

"And Mordecai went out from the presence of the king in royal apparel of blue and white, and with a great crown of gold, and with a garment of fine linen and purple: and the city of Shushan rejoiced and was glad."

The Jews had light, and gladness, and joy, and honour.

And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king's commandment and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/josephus/complete.ii.xiv.ix.html

Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idumea, and subdued all the Idumeans; and permitted them to stay in that country; if they would circumcise their genitals, and make use of the laws of the Jews; and they were so desirous of living in the land of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision, and of the rest of the Jewish ways of living; at which time this therefore befell them, that they were hereafter no other than Jews.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah 19:20-25

"And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

And the Lord shall be known to Egypt, and the Egyptians shall know the Lord in that day, and shall do sacrifice and oblation; yea, they shall vow a vow unto the Lord, and perform it. And the Lord shall smite Egypt: he shall smite and heal it: and they shall return even to the Lord, and he shall be intreated of them, and shall heal them. In that day shall there be a highway out of Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian shall come into Egypt, and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptians shall serve with the Assyrians. In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land: Whom the Lord of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans 3:29-30

"Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts 16:1-3

Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timotheus, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his father was a Greek: which was well reported of by the brethren that were at Lystra and Iconium. Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 12:37-38

And the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand on foot that were men, beside children. And a mixed multitude went up also with them; and flocks, and herds, even very much cattle.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 12:41-50

And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the Lord went out from the land of Egypt. 42 It is a night to be much observed unto the Lord for bringing them out from the land of Egypt: this is that night of the Lord to be observed of all the children of Israel in their generations.

And the Lord said unto Moses and Aaron, This is the ordinance of the passover: There shall no stranger eat thereof:but every man’s servant that is bought for money, when thou hast circumcised him, then shall he eat thereof. A foreigner and an hired servant shall not eat thereof. In one house shall it be eaten; thou shalt not carry forth ought of the flesh abroad out of the house; neither shall ye break a bone thereof. 47 All the congregation of Israel shall keep it. And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Thus did all the children of Israel; as the Lord commanded Moses and Aaron, so did they.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Chronicles 2:34-36

Now Sheshan had no sons, but daughters. And Sheshan had a servant, an Egyptian, whose name was Jarha. And Sheshan gave his daughter to Jarha his servant to wife; and she bare him Attai. And Attai begat Nathan, and Nathan begat Zabad

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts 2:5-10

And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilæans?And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judæa, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes

http://biblehub.com/acts/24-24.htm

Several days later Felix (edit: Roman procurator) came with his wife Drusilla*, who was a Jew. He sent for Paul and listened to him as he spoke about faith in Christ Jesus.

*Father was an Edomite

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans 11:25-26

Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, and in this way all Israel will be saved.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts 17:16-17

While Paul was waiting for them in Athens, he was greatly distressed to see that the city was full of idols. So he reasoned in the synagogue with both Jews and God-fearing Greeks, as well as in the marketplace day by day with those who happened to be there.

 

[LionofJudah]

@LionofJudah Bruh I understand ur sincereness and steadfast for the truth but this here thecoli.com is the world & of the world. A haven for 2/3rds of Jake pure adulterous worldy ass niccas. Dont be Super Israelite all the time around these nikkas but be Clark Kent. By the time most of these niccas here wake up it will be to late and they will be missile food, die in fema camps, Die in the coming race wars, or the famine. You casting your pearls before swine. These nikkas n spics will get it right on the other side through Reincarnation.

Kan...these people deserve what they get, but we gotta throw the line out sometimes to fish for that 1/3rd. But I totally agree with you.

 

[jjj123]

Everything you just said is a bunch of bullshyt.Essentially you're coming with the 'Bible is a white man's book' doctrine which is as false as it can be. If the Bible was a white man's book, Jesus and the Israelites wouldn't be Black. The white man's destruction would not be in the pages, but it is. You have no knowledge of it, and that's why you scoff. You're a 2/3rd's cat, so this word isn't for you anyway.

jesus? whos jesus?...realizes theres no J in the Hebraic language...oh you mean that white guy they made up who was supposed to be a representation of Yashua aka the Son of Man, but you know the bible so well, gtfoh you know jack shyt. israelites being black is laughable when you look at hieroglyphs of the egptians slaying those lightskin barbarians cause they were so uncivilized. those same people they still let in to their kingdom and plagiarized egptian history and claimed it as their own resulting in that bs book you worship called the bible. so what is it that you really know?

 

[LionofJudah]

LOL @ this Spain argument again.

Waitz says "An interesting gradation of all shades down to the black is exhibited by the Jews." (31) Especially dark were the Jews of Spain and Portugal. The Portugese Jews were "very dark," says Pritchard. (31) The Duchess d'Abrante, wife of Napolean's ambassador to Portugal, said that "the Jew, the Negro and the Portugese could be seen in a single person." (32)

31. Pritchard, J.C. Natural Hist. of Man, p. 145. 1845. Waitz, T. Introd to Anthropology, pp. 47-8. 1863

32. Memoires, Vol 5 Chap. 26. 1835 (12 Vols.)

 

[MostReal]

this dude said Visage & blackened means 'to grow dark' as if that means their faces weren't black
dude just added 'dying slow' in there as if its scripture
they went from describing their bodies, to describing their faces. give it up breh. the people were black man & came from Africa. Why is this so hard for you to accept? You love the stuff cacs have taught you about the bible huh

 

[LionofJudah]

jesus? whos jesus?...realizes theres no J in the Hebraic language...oh you mean that white guy they made up who was supposed to be a representation of Yashua aka the Son of Man, but you know the bible so well, gtfoh you know jack shyt. israelites being black is laughable when you look at hieroglyphs of the egptians slaying those lightskin barbarians cause they were so uncivilized. those same people they still let in to their kingdom and plagiarized egptian history and claimed it as their own resulting in that bs book you worship called the bible. so what is it that you really know?

You don't think we don't know Jesus isn't his real name? That's elementary shyt. And the person called Jesus isn't described as white in the Bible, so again, you scoff because you don't know shyt.

 

[Czar]

this dude said Visage & blackened means 'to grow dark' as if that means their faces weren't black
dude just added 'dying slow' in there as if its scripture
they went from describing their bodies, to describing their faces. give it up breh. the people were black man & came from Africa. Why is this so hard for you to accept? You love the stuff cacs have taught you about the bible huh

Lol so it was talking about their faces now?

Well let's take a look at the word translated "visage" in hebrew.

http://biblehub.com/lexicon/lamentations/4-8.htm
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/8389.htm

toar: outline, form
Original Word: תֹּ֫אַר
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: toar
Phonetic Spelling: (to'-ar)
Short Definition: form
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from taar
Definition
outline, form

Nice try though.

 

[Czar]

@iLLaV3

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel 47:22-23

It shall be that you will divide it by lot as an inheritance for yourselves, and for the strangers who dwell among you and who bear children among you. They shall be to you as native-born among the children of Israel; they shall have an inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel. And it shall be that in whatever tribe the stranger dwells, there you shall give him his inheritance,” says the Lord God.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus 19:34

"But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Esther 8:15-17

"And Mordecai went out from the presence of the king in royal apparel of blue and white, and with a great crown of gold, and with a garment of fine linen and purple: and the city of Shushan rejoiced and was glad."

The Jews had light, and gladness, and joy, and honour.

And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king's commandment and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/josephus/complete.ii.xiv.ix.html

Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idumea, and subdued all the Idumeans; and permitted them to stay in that country; if they would circumcise their genitals, and make use of the laws of the Jews; and they were so desirous of living in the land of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision, and of the rest of the Jewish ways of living; at which time this therefore befell them, that they were hereafter no other than Jews.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah 19:20-25

"And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

And the Lord shall be known to Egypt, and the Egyptians shall know the Lord in that day, and shall do sacrifice and oblation; yea, they shall vow a vow unto the Lord, and perform it. And the Lord shall smite Egypt: he shall smite and heal it: and they shall return even to the Lord, and he shall be intreated of them, and shall heal them. In that day shall there be a highway out of Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian shall come into Egypt, and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptians shall serve with the Assyrians. In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land: Whom the Lord of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans 3:29-30

"Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts 16:1-3

Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timotheus, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his father was a Greek: which was well reported of by the brethren that were at Lystra and Iconium. Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 12:37-38

And the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand on foot that were men, beside children. And a mixed multitude went up also with them; and flocks, and herds, even very much cattle.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 12:41-50

And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the Lord went out from the land of Egypt. 42 It is a night to be much observed unto the Lord for bringing them out from the land of Egypt: this is that night of the Lord to be observed of all the children of Israel in their generations.

And the Lord said unto Moses and Aaron, This is the ordinance of the passover: There shall no stranger eat thereof:but every man’s servant that is bought for money, when thou hast circumcised him, then shall he eat thereof. A foreigner and an hired servant shall not eat thereof. In one house shall it be eaten; thou shalt not carry forth ought of the flesh abroad out of the house; neither shall ye break a bone thereof. 47 All the congregation of Israel shall keep it. And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Thus did all the children of Israel; as the Lord commanded Moses and Aaron, so did they.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Chronicles 2:34-36

Now Sheshan had no sons, but daughters. And Sheshan had a servant, an Egyptian, whose name was Jarha. And Sheshan gave his daughter to Jarha his servant to wife; and she bare him Attai. And Attai begat Nathan, and Nathan begat Zabad

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts 2:5-10

And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilæans?And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judæa, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes

http://biblehub.com/acts/24-24.htm

Several days later Felix (edit: Roman procurator) came with his wife Drusilla*, who was a Jew. He sent for Paul and listened to him as he spoke about faith in Christ Jesus.

*Father was an Edomite

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans 11:25-26

Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, and in this way all Israel will be saved.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts 17:16-17

While Paul was waiting for them in Athens, he was greatly distressed to see that the city was full of idols. So he reasoned in the synagogue with both Jews and God-fearing Greeks, as well as in the marketplace day by day with those who happened to be there.

^You have yet to touch upon this. I'm still waiting.