Its crazy how there's only 1 universally accepted classic album from a female rapper,

[smokeurobinson]

Funkdafied, Supa Dupa Fly, and Hard Core are universally accepted as seminally classic albums.

And Lauryns 1st is the 1 undeniable classic.

 

[smokeurobinson]

my favorite female rapper album is "Broken Silence" by Foxy Brown. Followed by "Hardcore".

I wouldn't call that a rap album, at all really. Hardcore was the first thing that popped into my mind.

yea i think lil kim hardcore is def accepted universally as a classic from a female

more than any of foxy album

I think that Kollage is the best female rap album

Question

.....How come your selections never come up in the universally accepted classic list convo along with Chronic/ Cuban Linx /Ready To Die/ Doggystyle.....

......But u bring them up now?



Yet Lauryns 1st always comes up when talkin universally accepted classics?
.

 

[SunZoo]

Question

.....How come your selections never come up in the universally accepted classic list convo along with Chronic/ Cuban Linx /Ready To Die/ Doggystyle.....

......But u bring them up now?



Yet Lauryns 1st always comes up when talkin universally accepted classics
.

That's the thing...it really doesn't. In what reality do you live in where Miseducation is ever in the same conversation with any of those albums? I couldn't spit you a 16 off that shyt and I bought played the album many times. Out of all the singles there was like one...rap verse on "Doo Wop"?

 

[smokeurobinson]

That's the thing...it really doesn't. In what reality do you live in where Miseducation is ever in the same conversation with any of those albums?

Fool its the only female rap album ever brought up.


U came in here talkin Lil kims 1st, when does that lp ever get brought up in the convo?

 

[SunZoo]

Fool its the only female rap album ever brought up.

The majority of the songs weren't rap...and again who brings up Miseducation when talking about Doggystyle and albums of that ilk? NOBODY, you saying it doesn't give that statement any extra weight because you say a lot of stupid shyt.

You asked why the others aren't brought up it's because in general female MC's are going to be given their own category and compared to each other, the only album I can really think of that dropped and TRULY COMPETED WITH OTHER RAP RELEASES was Hardcore.

You might as well be putting Badu albums in the mix.

 

[smokeurobinson]

..and again who brings up Miseducation when talking about Doggystyle and albums of that ilk? NOBODY, you saying it doesn't give that statement any extra weight

1st post gotta bunch of daps , Poster @IAmListenin' already acknowledged and according to u i say stupid shyt so I dont believe you.

 

[SunZoo]

1st post gotta bunch of daps , Poster @IAmListenin' already acknowledged and according to u i say stupid shyt so I dont believe you.

1. You counting daps
2. You got 6 of em, and this is a damn near plat thread.



The gist of the argument is female MC's are gonna get their own category just like female athletes, which is why they aren't brought up. You mean to tell me the "one" exception is an album that's about 1/3 rap? Even with the sales and acclaim it's still not mentioned along side those albums, it's not even mentioned with the same albums that came out that year...

 

[Marti]

As a pure hip hop album hard core is better than miseducation of lauryn hill

This and i dont wanna argue

 

[Taadow]

And Lauryns 1st is the 1 undeniable classic.

Naw, fucc that chit.

 

[IAmListenin']

1. You counting daps
2. You got 6 of em, and this is a damn near plat thread.



The gist of the argument is female MC's are gonna get their own category just like female athletes, which is why they aren't brought up. You mean to tell me the "one" exception is an album that's about 1/3 rap? Even with the sales and acclaim it's still not mentioned along side those albums, it's not even mentioned with the same albums that came out that year...

I see what the point of contention is reading this thread, which is the distinction between "album by a hip-hop artist" and "hip-hop album." The OP remarked that there was only one classic by a female rapper, which is what Lauryn Hill was. But what you and others are saying is that there was actually more singing than rapping on it, which was what I said myself. TMOLH was a landmark because it was the first album by a hip-hop artist to win the Album of the Year Grammy. I remember when the Fugees were big with The Score, Lauryn Hill was actually in that position then, as The Score was nominated for Album of the Year, and people wanted hip-hop to finally receive recognition, but it went to Celine Dion.

Before TMOLH, The Score was the last album by a hip-hop artist(s) to be nominated for AOTY, and before that, MC Hammer was the only other one with Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em. So only two other albums by hip-hop artists had ever been in that position before then, which is why it was a big deal at the time. It was the first album by a hip-hop artist to receive critical acclaim and mainstream awards (outside of its own little category in the "urban" niche), and it was just inducted into the Library of Congress last year. Though there were people who were disappointed that Lauryn Hill didn't rhyme more, as they were looking forward to a solo album from her after The Score. And that's where you and others are coming in, pointing out that it isn't a hip-hop album, though it is an album by a hip-hop artist, which was what the OP said. In the aftermath, whereas there were only two albums by hip-hop artists nominated for an AOTY Grammy before Lauryn Hill won the AOTY Grammy, afterwards you had Eminem, OutKast, Nelly, Missy Elliott, Kanye, Lil Wayne, and Kendrick Lamar receive AOTY nominations, with OutKast becoming the second hip-hop artists to win with Speakerboxxx/The Love Below. So the issue here is that you and others and he are coming from different sides on the "album by a hip-hop artist" and "hip-hop album" distinction.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Lady of Rage u fukks

 

[dubsmith_nz]

Lady of Rage u fukks

There's no way you can put "Necessary Roughness" in this conversation, as much as I fukk with Rage that album was all types of mediocrity.

 

[SunZoo]

I see what the point of contention is reading this thread, which is the distinction between "album by a hip-hop artist" and "hip-hop album." The OP remarked that there was only one classic by a female rapper, which is what Lauryn Hill was. But what you and others are saying is that there was actually more singing than rapping on it, which was what I said myself. TMOLH was a landmark because it was the first album by a hip-hop artist to win the Album of the Year Grammy. I remember when the Fugees were big with The Score, Lauryn Hill was actually in that position then, as The Score was nominated for Album of the Year, and people wanted hip-hop to finally receive recognition, but it went to Celine Dion.

Before TMOLH, The Score was the last album by a hip-hop artist(s) to be nominated for AOTY, and before that, MC Hammer was the only other one with Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em. So only two other albums by hip-hop artists had ever been in that position before then, which is why it was a big deal at the time. It was the first album by a hip-hop artist to receive critical acclaim and mainstream awards (outside of its own little category in the "urban" niche), and it was just inducted into the Library of Congress last year. Though there were people who were disappointed that Lauryn Hill didn't rhyme more, as they were looking forward to a solo album from her after The Score. And that's where you and others are coming in, pointing out that it isn't a hip-hop album, though it is an album by a hip-hop artist, which was what the OP said. In the aftermath, whereas there were only two albums by hip-hop artists nominated for an AOTY Grammy before Lauryn Hill won the AOTY Grammy, afterwards you had Eminem, OutKast, Nelly, Missy Elliott, Kanye, Lil Wayne, and Kendrick Lamar receive AOTY nominations, with OutKast becoming the second hip-hop artists to win with Speakerboxxx/The Love Below. So the issue here is that you and others and he are coming from different sides on the "album by a hip-hop artist" and "hip-hop album" distinction.

I think making that distinction is pretty important especially when you go beyond appreciating the album for it's own merit into sitting it next to rap albums the caliber of Ready To Die. The technicality of her coming from a Hip Hop group doesn't change the fact that she really released a pop/R&B album to a much wider demographic than she would have had if she had spent the majority of that album spitting. Had the album been mostly rap I doubt it would have been as acclaimed which is kind of unfair to the femcess who really went for theirs while catering to the rap demo.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Fool its the only female rap album ever brought up.


U came in here talkin Lil kims 1st, when does that lp ever get brought up in the convo?

It's NOT a rap album. But it's definitely a classic and is brought up all the time.

 

[Kimo_bud]

Boss - born gangster