It Still Baffles Me That The Beatles Are Considered the Greatest Ever Without Any Sense of Rhythm

[ThaRealness]

If the Beatles were active into the 1970s and they hired John Bonham as their new drummer, I would feel differently

 

[Cave Savage]

Another thing I like about the Beatles is that all 4 of them sang lead vocals. Even Ringo sang some good songs.

 

[ThaRealness]

I noticed people saying they aren't technical but they can't play instruments at all or explain theory as to why they can't do it

And others saying I can't vibe to it, which is understandable....but the Beatles didn't make music to dance to....they made iconic songwriting pieces.

Music is about the mind body soul connection my dude. For the three to work in unison the beat gotta slap.

 

[Greenhornet]

Nobody was dancing to 95% of the music listed here
its all subjective, nikkas drop stepping to tempations
was equally commercial as white people doing 1960s off beat dances to rock music

ive never duck walked while listening to chuck berry

the twist is the only song I can think of that is basically just an anthem for dancing and its roots come from the decade before
nikkas simply werent dancing in the 60s 30s and 40s were for that ... 50s and 60s were reinventing music and taking music out of theaters and bandstands, and making hits and commerical charting stuff. 70s and 80s is when groove and dance came back ... 90s was a mixture of both, enhanced songwriting and dance hits. 2000s technology caught up and it was just like fukk it, lets just throw average simple pop hits out for money and try to be controversial

whats cool is I'm just here to show you what the Beatles actually are, everyone has their opinion.. most people dont like the beatles now.... but at least if you understand how they changed music the disinformation wont spread... people relate them to bands that have literally contributed nothing besides a few good songs... and thats just not the case at all





sidenote

if you want to be a musician, following a random groove isnt going to teach you theory or make you better ... plus its just rhythm, 1/4th of a whole picture. Its great to vibe to but not going to push boundaries or lead you anywhere. That shyts for fans, not creators. Miles was perfecting his phrasing and scales, working with negative space and inventing jazz. Thats why legends become legends, anyone can play Miles... but who can be Miles?
Nobody is buying Barry White CDs with Barry white's verses taken off or Issac Hayes Bands dont exist when the songwriting is gone, they become backbeats at broken bars. If grooves mattered instrumental CDs would be platinum

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Dude actually said they have no sense of rhythm.........................

John Lennon was a woman-beater, though...............​

 

[ThaRealness]

70s and 80s is when groove and dance came back ... 90s was a mixture of both, enhanced songwriting and dance hits. 2000s technology caught up and it was just like fukk it, lets just throw average simple pop hits out for money and try to be controversial

I appreciate everything you've posted in here. Way overqualified.



Anyways, the 70s was also a mixture of both, and thats why the 70s was the best. Marvin Gaye's songwriting was world class, same with Pink Floyd, Camel and George Clinton.

But once Funk music came along we could never ever go back. I would argue funk was the single most impactful movement since Jazz. That songwriting shyt is valuable, absolutely. But check this out - Funk is half a century old, and its still the backbone for modern music. EDM comes from disco which comes from Funk. Trap comes from hip hop which comes from Funk. And danceable music has always carried a stigma. It shouldn't. Its some high art low art shyt

Music critics and aficionados will always rank The Beatles higher then James Brown, just like they will rank Neutral Milk Hotel above Wu Tang or Biggie.

There is no way you can argue The Beatles are more impactful then James Brown. the JBs created an entire genre with a 2 bar loop

 

[3rdWorld]

The Beatles are a perfect snapshot of how the cac world operates..

 

[Ziploc]

Not even a fan but this is a blanket statement and shows a lack of comprehension why people call them one of the greatest bands ever.As master of their instruments that would be a quick no,Ringo was easily one of the worst drummers ever,They weren't great vocalists but could harmonize pretty well.The part were they stood out to me is the songwriting and once they left the teenybopper stuff behind the production and arrangements.Some of the things that are studio law nowadays came from bands like them trying out new stuff in the late 60's and early 70's.Cats like Brian Wilson,Phil Spector also had a great impact on how to use the studio as an instrument in those days.The writing holds up because they understood how to translate everyday concepts into great songs that had layers of deeper meaning in a deceptively easy digestable song structure.If you knew a little about music theory and songwriting as a craft,you tend to look at bands like these from a slightly altered perspective.Listen to Pet Sounds from the Beach Boys and try to imagine that you have never heard song structures like these,the use of delay's,echo,panning,shifting time signatures and harmonizing in a way that collides with what your ears are used to.The time that music is released in makes so much impact that it's nearly impossible to look back at it objectively or revisit it when you have not been around when it came out to fully understand what it meant back then.I like to use Drake's so far gone as an example when i try to explain this to my cousins.That mixtape is the soundtrack to almost an entire generation that will never be able to look at it without that anchor of experiences they went through.20 yrs from now kids will give it a listen and will not be able to grasp why it had the impact it had cause technology moved on,styles develop and ears change to what is dominating their perception,it is however a benchmark for most of the stuff that came after it.

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

The Beatles greatest accomplishment was being considered important enough to the GOAT for him to shell out his money to buy their catalog.

 

[Payroll]

Pink Flyod >>>>>>>>>>

 

[Pazzy]

They had some songs but as a band and album wise


I remember making this thread or saying the same shyt you did 4 years ago and folks were straight up dissing and hating, saying how I was crazy for dissing the Beatles. They were trying their hardest to convince me that something was wrong with me for saying that shyt.

 

[null]

They had some songs but as a band and album wise


I remember making this thread or saying the same shyt you did 4 years ago and folks were straight up dissing and hating, saying how I was crazy for dissing the Beatles. They were trying their hardest to convince me that something was wrong with me for saying that shyt.

Explaining The Beatles to you lot is like trying to explain to modern day yuth why PE > GMFATFF, why ATCQ is better than De La Soul and why BIG > 2Pac.

 

[TheAlbionist]

George Martin was pretty much the first mainstream producer putting tapes backwards through machines, looping drums... guy was the first producer putting psychedelic dance music into the charts on Revolver.



I'd never argue they were the best band ever (and I can't think of anyone I respect that would), but NO RHYTHM?! That's a bit fukking far.

 

[Sohh_lifted]

The Isleys Bros >>> The Beatles

 

[ThirdAct]

Imagine making your biggest artistic statement, and you let some shyt like this fly



The correct answer can range anywhere from Miles Davis, to Charlie Parker to MJ to Led Zeppelin to Marvin Gaye

Zeppelin is probably the only band even more overrated than Beatles and the Stones. Stole half their damn riffs from old songs and then had Robert Plant make moaning and squealing sounds over them.